How do you see life,space and everything..

Started by limeTree, Mon 26/01/2009 16:06:03

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MrColossal

I am waiting for February 14th, in the year 2016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwe1L2mHhZY#t=1m21s

The first dude on the show was right, why can't she be right?!
"This must be a good time to live in, since Eric bothers to stay here at all"-CJ also: ACHTUNG FRANZ!

m0ds

I'm waiting for the next mass genocide, which I believe is probably just around the corner. Al Q'aeda or whoever will probably slip something dodgy into a water system sometime in the next five years, causing mass deaths and waking the world up into a new age.

Either that or the "we die in a black hole" or whatever comes true in 2012...lol...yes, fun.


paolo

Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Mon 26/01/2009 22:06:33
In terms of God, the world is all a horrible joke and we're the punch line. This is because God in only thing that has the final word, if the word is horrifying.

However, the world, and the universe, can be manipulated. Ever heard of Group Theory? Ever heard of the Hundredth Monkey Effect?

[snip]

I hope that all made sense.

Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) and the hundredth monkey effect does not exist, according to the Wikipedia article. So I'm afraid I don't see how they are at all relevant to the point you were making.

Life is empty and meaningless - just ask an existentialist. But the good thing, as Darth Mandarb says, is that this means you can just go ahead and enjoy it.

Quote from: Akatosh on Tue 27/01/2009 07:54:25
Personally, I'm looking forward to January 2013. Maybe some esoteric nuts will finally come to their senses... and if not, at least I get to make fun of them (even more than usually).

They won't take any notice, unfortunately... these people don't experience cognitive dissonance. When they're proved wrong, they'll just say, "Oh did we say 2012? We really meant to say 2102," or "We all held hands and prayed really hard and everything turned out OK, which just goes to show we're right."

Andail

Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Mon 26/01/2009 22:06:33
However, the world, and the universe, can be manipulated. Ever heard of Group Theory? Ever heard of the Hundredth Monkey Effect?

[snip]

I hope that all made sense.

Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) and the hundredth monkey effect does not exist, according to the Wikipedia article. So I'm afraid I don't see how they are at all relevant to the point you were making.

But if you combine Group Theory with the Hundredth Monkey Effect, you get the Effective Hundredth Monkey Group, a terrorist organisation that will eventually blow up the world.

Dudeman Thingface

Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) and the hundredth monkey effect does not exist, according to the Wikipedia article. So I'm afraid I don't see how they are at all relevant to the point you were making.

I believe you yourself refuse to believe it because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance. ;D

As you believe:
Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Life is empty and meaningless - just ask an existentialist. But the good thing, as Darth Mandarb says, is that this means you can just go ahead and enjoy it.

It has to do with:
Quote from: lipaoklipa on Mon 26/01/2009 16:06:03
How do you see the world around you?Are you a believer?what do you expect from your future?Do you see a reason and do you find sense in the things you do?
Or rather,how does the universe affect you and how do you affect it?
Its a rather wide area of discussion,but i was just wondering how people see their life
in a modern world.

My explanation of them:
Group theory is a set of mathematical functions and groups to define and solve equations. It's specifically to do with groups. What I meant by bringing it up is that unlike what Akatosh believed, there aren't too many variables to predict what a group of people will do. You can lessen the set of variables in human action by applying logic, such as the hundredth monkey effect. The hundredth monkey effect, on one side, states that a set number of similar beings, once performing an action, makes innate in all other similar beings. On the other side, it states that similar beings will imitate and learn from one another and slowly adapt similar traits and experiences as more experience that trait.
On either side, it states that by introducing one variable to a set of people, and due to human nature, a number of those set people, that they will adopt it in time. However, what it forgets to address is that, particularly in the human race, this variable must be something considered desirable. E.g. if you have ten people laughing in the middle of a public park, and a number of people walk through the park, you can calculate how many will start laughing for no definable reason other than those ten people were laughing. Hence the concept why laughter is contagious.

But, the question will arise "what has this got to do with this thread". Here:
Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Mon 26/01/2009 22:06:33
the world, and the universe, can be manipulated.

RetroJay

I do not really care if the world ends for us in 2012, 2019 or 40,000.

I do not want the Earth to explode either.

I would like life to continue on this fantastic globe after we have been eradicated.
We have f****d it up enough. Give it time to heal from the s**t we have put it through and hopefully
a species will inherit a world that was once as beautiful as when we first appeared.
Also I hope it is populated by a species that disserve to be here.



MoodyBlues

I had a dream last night where I thought of a phrase that sums up my view of things, I guess: "Everything is made to love and be loved in return."  I don't know if this applies to everything (how can a rock love, anyway?), but I think it applies to people.
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paolo

Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Tue 27/01/2009 22:07:11
Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) [snip]

I believe you yourself refuse to believe it because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance. ;D

Group theory is a set of mathematical functions and groups to define and solve equations. It's specifically to do with groups. What I meant by bringing it up is that unlike what Akatosh believed, there aren't too many variables to predict what a group of people will do. [snip]

Cognitive dissonance alert :) You and I seem to be talking about different types of group theory. Group theory in maths has nothing to do with how groups of people behave - that sounds more like behavioural science.

Dudeman Thingface

Quote from: paolo on Fri 30/01/2009 15:22:48
Group theory in maths has nothing to do with how groups of people behave - that sounds more like behavioural science.

No, not directly. But it can be used to, after applying variables to either people or their actions, mathematically correlate what will occur (by the group, that is) next.
Although I do agree that my personal application of it is more of a behavioural science thing.

Sallow

I believe that the purpose of life is something that the individual must discover for themselves.

sometimes I am amazed to think that everyone on earth has their own perspective, that, like me, they are also experiencing the world first hand through their eyes, with their own minds ticking away. Geeze, it's just mind boggling.
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