How low can you f**king go?!

[voh]

I seperate cruelty towards those who don't deserve it and those who've chosen to deserve it quite clearly.

Say what you will, this guy needs some good, old-fashioned punishment.

For being a total dickwad.

[LimpingFish]

What made it even more disgusting, if such a thing were possible, is that this dying woman was also mentally impaired. Her brother has said that she had the personality of a teenage girl.

Regardless, how can her family feel knowing that not only did she die on the street, but she had to experience this abhorrent degradation in her final moments?

There is no excuse for such a crime. Punishment should be swift and painful.

[Nacho]

As much as despicable this act is... what punishment are you talking about??? Death penalty? Painfull? Torture? Prison? Castrated? Perpetual prison?

Sorry, I don' t agree.

I' d like to be treated in the way I treat people, wanting for the criminal the same punishement he made to me with his crime... With that rule of three this guy shouldn' t deserve a fisical punishement, or quitting his freedom, but something terrible humiliating make without any possible way to deffense himself, such as being naked and raped in the central city square, with a big pink dildo... But nothing else. Was that what you were talking about when you said "old fashioned punishment, Voh? If so, I agree...  With the others, wanting more, I disagree...

[Nikolas]

I' d like to be treated in the way I treat people, wanting for the criminal the same punishement he made to me with his crime...

In which case he should be made to near death comatosse and at that moment, all alone on the pavement, someone should come and piss on him... And then he should die...

Nia... I think life is better in this case.

Honestly, it could be that we are overeacting a bit: I mean, it could be that that nutcase didn't know she was dying. The pure fact that he pissed on someone is not SO AMAZINGLY dispictable. He was high, he was drunk... It's not impossible to happen.

Of course she was dying, which makes things for her impossibly worst and awful to the worst effect, but still it does seem that he was simply ignorant (and an awful person of course)

[m0ds]

LOL someone peed on someone. Naughty naughty!

Twisted, but as someone said, Darwin Awards!

[Phemar]

It's people like this who give cannabis a bad name.

but seriously.. it's just piss. she wasn't humiliated or degraded in her last moments of life she was just pissed on. it's just bodily fluid.

way to over-react. (to those of you who said he should have the death penalty or be castrated). kinda immature going that overboard.

[MrColossal]

He didn't "just" pee on her, however.

The man has been arrested and will face the consequences of his actions. Thankfully he was caught. He does not deserve to be raped in the public square. That is my opinion and the popular opinion of most countries. Hooray!

[Pesty]

It's people like this who give cannabis a bad name.

but seriously.. it's just piss. she wasn't humiliated or degraded in her last moments of life she was just pissed on. it's just bodily fluid.

way to over-react. (to those of you who said he should have the death penalty or be castrated). kinda immature going that overboard.

He tried to rouse her by throwing a bucket of water over her, before urinating on her and covering her with shaving foam. The incident was filmed on a mobile phone.

What if this was your mother? Or sister? What if they collapsed and were dying and some drunk kid decided to piss all over her? That's not humiliating or degrading?

It's not the bodily fluid that makes it degrading, it's the meaning of the act. It IS insulting and degrading. Like he didn't think of her like a human being. Does this mean he deserves to die or be castrated? Of course not. But he does need to understand that this was a living woman with a life and was in need, and his response was to treat her like she was nothing.

He is just a stupid kid, and stupid kids do stupid things. Hopefully he will take something away from all of this and learn some respect for his fellow man. I think his punishment should be community service, working with the homeless, or the mentally ill, to see that they are real people, not just cartoonish stereotypes that don't deserve respect.

[Nacho]

Apparently, I started this "It' s not so serious" wave... Let me explain:

I think that it was disgusting, despicable, and horrible... But re-read my post. I only say that what was mentioned before (Castration/Death penalty/perpetual, etc...), was totally over-reacting.

Hope it' s clear now! ^_^

[voh]

this guy shouldn' t deserve a fisical punishement

+

but [something...] such as being naked and raped in the central city square, with a big pink dildo...

So you don't think it's fair to physically punish him but raping him with a big pink dildo is fine?

Dude..

[LimpingFish]

but seriously.. it's just piss. she wasn't humiliated or degraded in her last moments of life she was just pissed on. it's just bodily fluid.

I'm sorry, but wtf?! I mean, seriously, has human decency sunk to such a level as to be so blaise about this? "It's just bodily fluid"?!

He poured water over her, pissed on her, and covered her with shaving foam, while she lay dying. She was a mentally deficient middle-aged woman, for christ's sake! And his equally atrocious mate recorded it on his mobile phone!

If you don't equate pissing on a dying woman as a degradation, then something is very wrong with you.

He does not deserve to be raped in the public square. That is my opinion and the popular opinion of most countries. Hooray!

Well, yes, of course such punishment would not be proportionate in reality.

It was just the fact that somebody could do that to another human being, and act like he was taking part in some twisted Jackass stunt, is what left me so angry.

Nobody is going to behead him, or rape him. I'd repeatedly kick him in the balls, though.

[Lionmonkey]

As much as despicable this act is... what punishment are you talking about??? Death penalty? Painfull? Torture? Prison? Castrated? Perpetual prison?

Sorry, I don' t agree.

I' d like to be treated in the way I treat people, wanting for the criminal the same punishement he made to me with his crime... With that rule of three this guy shouldn' t deserve a fisical punishement, or quitting his freedom, but something terrible humiliating make without any possible way to deffense himself, such as being naked and raped in the central city square, with a big pink dildo... But nothing else. Was that what you were talking about when you said "old fashioned punishment, Voh? If so, I agree...  With the others, wanting more, I disagree...

Oh no. You are even sickier than that guy, we're all talking about. HE had to smoke some Mary Jane to think of doing his crazy stuff. But since I don't think someone would be able to post there after getting drunk or smoked, YOU have thought of all your stuff with clear mind! Who's sick now?

You all guys think that dude was sick? Look at yourselves.

Maybe you're next.

Maybe you will have the latest model of the world's best camera with you.

Don't drink, don't smoke, think good thoughts.

[Nikolas]

You all guys think that dude was sick? Look at yourselves.

Maybe you're next.

Maybe you will have the latest model of the world's best camera with you.

Don't drink, don't smoke, think good thoughts.

Now THAT'S just great! Well done on your post mate!

[Nacho]

this guy shouldn' t deserve a fisical punishement

+

but [something...] such as being naked and raped in the central city square, with a big pink dildo...

So you don't think it's fair to physically punish him but raping him with a big pink dildo is fine?

Dude..

As far as it should be something humiliating, done while he is defenseless but not terribly painfull, with permanent effects, etc... He might even like it.

[Lionmonkey]

this guy shouldn' t deserve a fisical punishement

+

but [something...] such as being naked and raped in the central city square, with a big pink dildo...

So you don't think it's fair to physically punish him but raping him with a big pink dildo is fine?

Dude..

As far as it should be something humiliating, done while he is defenseless but not terribly painfull, with permanent effects, etc... He might even like it.

Haven't you already understood, that by humiliating him, you will become equal to him? There will be no difference, you will be the same.
Except, that that guy smokes weed.

[Tuomas]

I think it's a bit different doing it to a person who is innocent and defenceless than to someone who really deserves it and has to take responsibility of what he has done.

However, I'm not going to be there to accept this public assrape.

[Akatosh]

Prison shall do. They'll most likely "take care" of the rape thing there, anyway 

[Nacho]

So, Lionmonkey, the general member' s opinion is moving to "Kill him, imprison him for the rest of his life, castrate him, etc..." to "If we do the same to him, you' ll be equal to him"? Phew...

Look, don' t be too picky about my "rape him in public" thing. I wrote something silly in a friendly atmosphere just to say that "Imprison him for life, killing him, or castrate him" was going too far... even considering that it was a horrible crime, what was told to be made to him, was going too far.

[Andail]

It always amazes me how so many are willing to vent their medieval view on justice and the making thereof. And when other more reasonable people tell them that public humiliation, castration and other means of torture cannot possible bring civilization forward, they always get the response "What! Do you sympathise with the culprit or what?" "What if it had happened to your mother!!?".
To me it's pretty obvious that most people who start shouting - in the most mob-like manner - about public and immediate execution, egging or castrating or whatever mostly do so to gain higher moral ground, scared of being accused of something themselves, relieved for not being targeted. (The movie "Little Children" does a great job on describing this phenomenon.)

I don't believe society or civilisation would gain anything from turning back our judicial system 2-3 centuries or more, to the times when people were expected to take great delight in public punishment, and when justice was carried out on a whim, as the result of someone's momentary state of mind.

And trust me, my sympathies for the elderly and disabled are unassailable - I chose to work with them for years and years while most people around me took telemarketing jobs or tended bars.

[Vince Twelve]

Well said, Andail.