how many french speaking people around there?

[brokenbutterfly]

Consider how silly it is that we're having a Mittens in France this summer and the French community may well be unaware of that!

No, you're having it in Belgium, and even though it's close, it's too far for me  :'( no time and no money.

But if some of you multi-lingual guys would be happy to keep an eye on the foreign language forums it might make more sense to try and integrate them here?

ryanlandry whose French seems top notch could do it  but if you integrate France-French speakers here, you'd need someone fluent in it to moderate them or something? I'd be willing to do it, but only as a secondary mod because I'm not online that much.

Hehe, because I don't know the French word for 'couch'.
Where's "here"? Paris, Hong Kong or Frisco?

"Couch" would be "canapé" or "divan". Here we don't use the expression "couch potato" often. The only time I've seen it was in a Donald Duck comic, and they referred to him as "patate de divan". I'm sure you know "patate" is another word for "potato" 

Here is Paris. I live there 24/7, I'm only in HK or SF during the holidays. So maybe in May or this summer.

[riseryn]

In the past I've generally steered away from having non-English forums because of the need to moderate them, and because as I'm responsible for the site here I'd prefer to be able to understand all the content posted on it.

But if some of you multi-lingual guys would be happy to keep an eye on the foreign language forums it might make more sense to try and integrate them here?

IMHO it would be better to have a section in the forum which give the links to the national community forum.
Peoples who wants to know whats happen in other AGS community may be able to find this forum easily and there ll be no problems with moderation in this forums being outside the official forum here.

[Radiant]

Silly... but blamed to who?

Why do you have to blame anybody? It's just silly.

[Emerald]

I can go almost every part of the world and understand and make me to be understood pretty well with English, except in France.

Meh, if you make an effort to communicate in French, they'll usually give you a break.

[riseryn]

quote from nacho

who stupidly still refuse to learn English like if we were still living 2 centuries

Is it really stupidity?
If  I hadnt the chance to be sent by my parents in scotland during my summer hollidays when i was 15 I probably dont be able to speak english (even this bad english of mine) only with my school lessons.

[passer-by]

Should we be providing foreign language forums here to try and provide a more inclusive community?

I think it would be difficult to maintain, difficult to keep tidy and it's still a barrier. I agree there should be one community only, but as AGS fans exist all over the world, it makes sense to have their own place. They may even ignore teh very existence of this forum.

[riseryn]

I can go almost every part of the world and understand and make me to be understood pretty well with English, except in France.

Maybe are you from these few peoples whose when in another country never ask politely if you speak their language.

When im talken in France directly in english without an hello or  "excuse me, do you speak english?" my english seems to vanished.
When im travelling  in another country the first thing i learn is how to say hello and be polite.

Or you have no chance .

I have to say that the majority of english peoples i meet in paris are quite polite. I only have problem once with australian peoples , not because their manners but with their pronunciation which makes difficult for me to understand what they were looking for.
But after some humorous talk between us we manage to communicate 

[Nacho]

I try to express myself in the lenguaje of the place I am in.

If you politelly ask people to speak slowly and you make the attempt to speak their lenguaje, they appreciate it, even if you speak worse than the indians in the old Far West movies... For example, last time I was in Paris I was able to speak in French with taxi drivers and shop clercks. Nothing really solid, but nobody has to ask me twice what was I talking about.

I worked in a reception in a Hotel; English people tried to communicate with me, at least "Hola, gracias, hasta luego, por favor, gracias por el pescado..."

French never tried.

Even when I knew that they were able to speak English (You do manage quite well in English when it comes the time to raise some brit girl skirt, I can tell...) Realising of that, I politelly ask them to try to speak to me in English...

"Sivuplé, je ne parlé francé tré bién, pouvévu parlé en Anglé, o parlé duzment?"

Nothing... they went speaking french, without slowing down, like machine guns.

That happened to me not once, or twice... happened to me most than half of the times I had to deal with french people. The other half of the times, they simply ignored me and spoke with the chef receptionist, who spoke french.

Yes, you French, (not you, as an individual, but France, as a country) have a real problem of inferiority complex with English. You never accepted that it became the "world languaje" in front of French, and you still go on talking in French even when it is 0 as an international lenguaje.

***CLARIFICATION***When I said "French are stupids for go on been stubborn with their lenguaje when it is obvious that English is the answer" I am not referring to anybody in particular, or wanting to insult a nation telling that THEY are STUPIDS. I am telling that this specific decission of not doing the necessary effort to give English a chance is stupid. There' s no need to get deffensive. I am sure that my country, Spain, is taking LOADS of institutional decissions that are stupid (Heh, we voted Zapatero again, need to say more?) ***END OF CLARIFICATION***

Riseryn; I never said I was not able to communicate myself in France. I did... In French, and in a mix of catalan and sloooowly Spanish. I was extremelly polite, not "one of those few unpolites" as you said.

Still, I keep saying: Whereas I can go to Osaka, Kandahar or Pakistan and communicate in English, in France I can' t. Don' t you want to go on being the ass of Europe as for learning the most important vehicle of communication in the World? CONGRATULATIONS! I sallute you. It is admirable that still are being the resistance in front of a global Anglosaxon world... But don' t accuse the rest of the world of being "unpolite", when it is you, the French, who are taking (as a County), and under my humble point of view, a bad institutional decission.

And again, I repeat, those rants go directed to those French who doesn't care to give English a chance because, for pride or stupidity, they believe French is going to be enough for going through the world with guarantees. This rants are not directed to you Riseryn, you WHO SPEAK ENGLISH. This rants go for the rest...

And thanks for thinking I went to Scotland when I was 15 to learn English. I didn' t... And you can notice it in my posts. My English is faaaaar from being perfect (Actually, I think it is not even good...) Yours is better. Congratulations for making the effort, and welcome to the forums.

[riseryn]

I think we french people are not just good with foreign language
maybe its different with the new generation for i know more younger speaking english than people of my generation.

[SSH]

There's the French Eurovision entry in English, too! Mon Dieu!

Mis juenes filles estudio Ingles, French et Anglais...

[Nacho]

And you must agree with me that it' s a pitty Riseryn. I think that it has more of that response on front of the anglosaxon globalization than a cultural issue, but it' s ok...

My country is not good with languajes either... But if someone tells that to me I would rather agree with him and tell it' s a pitty than getting deffensive, I think...

[riseryn]

i hope i dont sound too defensive.?
Cause im not.
I agree its a pity.

To come back to the topic it seems there is not a lot of french speaking people around there( whatever the reason).
I expected more french speaking canadian too.

[Ryan Timothy B]

CJ, perhaps you can make it so all the forums are combined and you select which languages, in your profile options, you want to be visible to you.

Or make it even more specific by each forum category you can choose which languages you'd like to be visible.
Hypothetically, I may understand in French someone asking "tell me what's wrong with this image" (in the critics lounge), and I can offer my help.  But I don't know enough to even attempt to understand what someone is asking in the Technical or Beginners Technical threads (or maybe even the rest of the categories) so I disable French in those thread categories except the critics lounge.


This way it won't be mind blowing looking through the forums, skipping all the languages you don't know to find the ones you do.

But I think if the thread started in English, it must remain English.  You'd also of course have to select with a drop-down which language is of the thread you're starting.

It's pretty much the same as what you're doing with separate forums for each language, but all accessible in one.

[Emerald]

Yes, you French, (not you, as an individual, but France, as a country) have a real problem of inferiority complex with English. You never accepted that it became the "world languaje" in front of French, and you still go on talking in French even when it is 0 as an international lenguaje.

I don't think it's so much that Frenchmen can't speak English, it's that they wont. They're a very proud people (especially around Paris - Southern France isn't as bad) and, like you say, they're not fond of anglo-saxon globalisation.

I remember I asked a French girl if she spoke English, and she said "Sorry, my English is very limited." I mean, most native english-speakers wouldn't speak so eloquently.



Also, I'm pretty sure Ivy speaks French

[The Ivy]

I speak French. I still have some trouble understanding it, especially in Quebec, but I can read and write just fine. I'd probably call myself "fluent" if I wasn't so shy about speaking. Ah well, that's what red wine was invented for, right?

[riseryn]

Initially this post wasnt intended to know if AGS forum must have a french section or if "frenchies" are "not fond of anglo-saxon globalisation" but if there are many speaking french people around here

concerning the forum i just suggest (i already said that above) a special board with just links to "official" forums in other language about AGS.

[LUniqueDan]

Hey Riseryn

Marion, Monsieur OUXX, naamlock, creamy (and I) are french members, and if I recall correctly, Dorcan (awesome artist !) speaks french...

To that list, add Nightfable, 2 others old posters I remember from Quebec, + 3 others who started the now defunct triple A french AGS ressources site.
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The fact is that Marion never really wanted to push the french forum here, and it's her choice ( I followed the forum discussion here for more than a year before I found the french one by pure mistake.) The download section have a lot of lil' jewels with a french track. (like the Dorcan ones).

[riseryn]

Hey luniquedan

The download section have a lot of lil' jewels with a french trans

It could be a good idea to systematically add in a game description the availables languages

[brokenbutterfly]

I worked in a reception in a Hotel; English people tried to communicate with me, at least "Hola, gracias, hasta luego, por favor, gracias por el pescado..."

French never tried.

Even when I knew that they were able to speak English (You do manage quite well in English when it comes the time to raise some brit girl skirt, I can tell...) Realising of that, I politelly ask them to try to speak to me in English...

"Sivuplé, je ne parlé francé tré bién, pouvévu parlé en Anglé, o parlé duzment?"

Nothing... they went speaking french, without slowing down, like machine guns.

That happened to me not once, or twice... happened to me most than half of the times I had to deal with french people. The other half of the times, they simply ignored me and spoke with the chef receptionist, who spoke french.

I don't know why they did that. Usually when you go to a foreign country, you will try to learn about their language. Buy one of those phrase books or something. If I travel to Spain, I would try to speak Spanish, English, but certainly not French! Maybe like riseryn said, you had no luck and met people who think they are the only ones on the planet, and that everybody speaks French. It happens!

I don't think it's so much that Frenchmen can't speak English, it's that they wont. They're a very proud people (especially around Paris - Southern France isn't as bad) and, like you say, they're not fond of anglo-saxon globalisation.

I remember I asked a French girl if she spoke English, and she said "Sorry, my English is very limited." I mean, most native english-speakers wouldn't speak so eloquently.

It's true some of them aren't willing to help. But others are just ashamed of their accent. Or, they don't trust their speaking ability. They can't speak fluently, give them 1 hour to write an essay in English, they would. But they wouldn't be able to have a conversation with you right here, right now.

Mis juenes filles estudio Ingles, French et Anglais...

They study English, French and English? 

[jetxl]

Before today I thought there were no french members at all.

As I pointed out on my blog, there is actually a separate French-speaking AGS forum, and I think that's where most Frenchies hang out.

Thinking about this, does it make sense that our community is segregated by having these main AGS forums, and then separate websites for the French and German speakers? Should we be providing foreign language forums here to try and provide a more inclusive community?

Oddly enough it sounds more like seperation to me. It forces german and french members to check those forums as much as the main forum. But people only become active members when they think a forum is worth of coming back again and again. Language has nothing to do about it. Well, maybe a little.