How to eliminate the message of the feasible icon?

Started by Mariano Cirigliano, Fri 10/07/2009 05:34:27

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Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens

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I agree that for a commercial product, being able to change this to state your own company name would only make good sense, especially with the vista/windows 7 games center.  For a freeware product, however, I really see no compelling argument for it beyond narcissism.  Also, since you can easily disable the version notifier in the engine, you could effectively make a game without providing any visible credit to CJ or AGS whatsoever, which (in my view, anyway) would be a pretty asinine thing to do.  As Vince mentioned, a good alternative is a preloader (or just not being bothered about it).

Ghost

Quote from: marianuchy22 on Fri 10/07/2009 14:50:08
I do not have problem in naming AGS in the credits of the game, but I would like to personalize the icon. How is it done?.

If it's only about the icon though, things are simple.

From the manual:

If you wish, you can use your own custom icon when you build a Windows EXE file. To do this, simply place your icon in your game's folder, and name it USER.ICO. Then, load the editor and save the game.

You can also have a custom icon for the Setup program generated. To do so, create your icon as above but name it setup.ico in the game folder.



Dualnames

Worked on Strangeland, Primordia, Hob's Barrow, The Cat Lady, Mage's Initiation, Until I Have You, Downfall, Hunie Pop, and every game in the Wadjet Eye Games catalogue (porting)

Mariano Cirigliano

Quote from: Misj' on Fri 10/07/2009 18:32:34
A) I have the feeling few people understand what you are talking about...mostly because your English looks like an online-translation from Spanish to English.

B) MrColossal is right...I think.

So here's what I figured out from what Marianuchy said:
if you create a game using the AGS editor, your execute-file will always say Adventure Game Studio run-time engine - Chris Jones, as you can see in the screen-grab below of the game-directory for The Secret of Hutton Church of England Grammar School which was a recent game that (according to the properties) was made using a recent version of AGS (3.1.2.1074):


However, Marianuchy's problem is, that when they create a game they do not want to have it say that it's by Chris Jones, and to be honest...I agree with that.


But if I remember correctly I once read (years ago) that you were not allowed to alter the file to say something different here. Nevertheless, I would urge Chris to reconsider this, because it makes a created game feel less professional. Which may not be a regular problem, but if you want to make money from it, it might be annoying. Apart from the 'property'-confusion, it might also confuse people as to who was responsible for the game, and whom to contact when something goes wrong.

Ps. I think it would also be weird if every LucasArts game created using SCUMM would have SCUMM Runtime-Engine as a description and Ron Gilbert as the creator...Even for games the guy never worked on ;)

It is true what you say. I what I need is that someone says to me like to do to modify this. Or if Chris Jones can reconsider this since I am not very much felt him.
For example my I would like to put the name of my small enterprise of adventurous games.
I hope that it is possible to do, from already thank you very much.

Dualnames

To quote CJ from the manual..
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Anything you distribute which has been created with AGS MUST retain the Version resources unaltered in order to display the AGS version and copyright in the Version tab of the EXE properties.

Please note that this is the only evidence that remains that your game was created with AGS - I do not place any splash screens or copyright messages in your game, and leaving the version tab is all I ask.

Worked on Strangeland, Primordia, Hob's Barrow, The Cat Lady, Mage's Initiation, Until I Have You, Downfall, Hunie Pop, and every game in the Wadjet Eye Games catalogue (porting)

Mariano Cirigliano

I want to mention Chris Jones in my game but on the screen of credits like gratefulness, but I do not like that it he appears under the icon of my games. Is it understood friends?.
Into my last game I could change the icon but I could not remove the name " CHRIS JONES " and " Adventure Game Studios run - steals ".
If someone can do it or if it he exists the possibility of communicating with Chris Jones I would like to know his your mail to speak with and to reach an agreement.
Thank you.

Ghost

I can see why you're asking, but it's not as if CJ says "he made your game". If you buy, for example, a license for the Unreal engine, and make a game with that... it will still be using the Unreal engine, and would need to say so.

You get AGS for free, and all CJ asks is to be credited as the author of the game engine. Totally fair.

So to answer: You cannot change this copyright part of the exe by any legal means. And honestly there is no reason for you to do so, because the game itself, and the copyright for the game, is still yours.

Still, you can write a "wrapper": A small program, using C++, for example, that encapsules the game exe. Maniac Mansion Deluxe(http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=401) did that, as well as some commercial AGS games. Don't know how to write such a wrapper though, but maybe the game authors can help you.

Mariano Cirigliano

If I understand it, but since I can do to pay and to obtain AGS's version with which I could work without there appears the name "Chris Jones"?.
I am ready to buy the product because I feel very comfortable to work with and to realize games in a future of good quality.
Thank you.

Galen

Just make the game use an installer. If its integrated with the vista games explorer and is run through an icon no one will see the name in the final product.

Mariano Cirigliano

Quote from: Crazy on Fri 10/07/2009 20:25:33
Just make the game use an installer. If its integrated with the vista games explorer and is run through an icon no one will see the name in the final product.

It is a good idea, but might I explain a bit more?.
That installer recommends to me to be easy to use?.
How would it be the correct way in order that Chris Jones does not meet the name?.
Thank you.

Nacho

Oh, come on, guys... The man has spent hours working in AGS and distributes it for free... Is it that annoying that he asks for having his name and the name of his programme in some visible place?

I agree that If someone wants the name to dissapear from the installer, a good deal should be paying Chris for the ungiven credit... But we all know how these things work, once there is a "Chris Jones free" version, it will start being distributed and lots of people will get this "clean version" without paying... A bad deal.
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

Mariano Cirigliano

Alone I want to work with a version that does not bind to put the name, since I want to give him a more professional touch.
I am grateful enormously for Chris Jones for everything, only that would feel more comfortable doing it without constraint.
Thank you.

Nacho

As said, ask him... There are lots of ways to do it.

My opinion? I would never give a "Chris Jones free" version to someone who is not of my total confidence...
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

MrColossal

It's really a simple question I don't know why some people needed to blow it out of proportion.

So to sum up:

"Can I change the executable so that it doesn't display Chris Jone's name?"

"The option is not in AGS. Also CJ has written in the Manual why this is so."

"I see. Still, are there other ways to change it?"

"Yes, make an installer, make a 'wrapper' [as mentioned by Ghost] or hack the executable as mentioned by a few people."

"Thanks for the help, I would still like to be able to just change it in AGS."

"Well the best way to do that is to ask CJ. Post in AGS Tech, state your case and see what he says. Have a nice day!"

"I'll do that, thanks!"

and SCENE!
"This must be a good time to live in, since Eric bothers to stay here at all"-CJ also: ACHTUNG FRANZ!

Nacho

Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

InCreator


Andail

#36
Eric, are you saying it was bad to mock him for his bad communication skills instead of actually helping him?

Galen

Quote from: marianuchy22 on Fri 10/07/2009 20:34:59
That installer recommends to me to be easy to use?.
How would it be the correct way in order that Chris Jones does not meet the name?.
Thank you.

I'd recommend using Inno Setup which is free and seems easy enough to use.
Download it here: http://jrsoftware.org/isdl.php (chose the QuickStart pack)

That way no one will see the name unless they go digging around their C:/ drive for the .exe file.

Dualnames

Quote from: Andail on Sat 11/07/2009 00:20:34
Eric, are you saying it was bad to mock him for his bad communication skills instead of actually helping him?

How many times have each one of us said "You can't change it, ask CJ" ?
Worked on Strangeland, Primordia, Hob's Barrow, The Cat Lady, Mage's Initiation, Until I Have You, Downfall, Hunie Pop, and every game in the Wadjet Eye Games catalogue (porting)

Mariano Cirigliano

The truth I do not agree and see anything of villain in maximums try to personalize to my games.
If it is a free program it he should not have these problems.
I hope that it are considered to be this that I am saying, not only for my, also for another people that he she thinks like I.
Thank you.

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