"If I Were The Devil" -Paul Harvey

Redwall · Sat 04/02/2006 20:48:37

Don't you know? "Atheism" is a polite word for "nihilism".

MrColossal · Sat 04/02/2006 20:51:36

also, in all seriousness then, Rharpe, please

http://www.wonderfulatheistsofcfl.org/Quotes.htm

explain those people then.

I'll give you Abe Lincoln because he might have been gay...

vict0r · Sat 04/02/2006 20:51:56

Quote from: rharpe on Sat 04/02/2006 20:44:10
Why? Because you do as you please, when you please, how you please, according to you and no other.

Yep! Instead of those mindless zombie christians who follow no other than their wicked leader called The Priest!

[violin]Daaa! Dadadadadduuuudiididididididiidiiiiid![/violin]

ildu · Sat 04/02/2006 20:52:10

I feel sorry for the guy. He apparently lives in a self-proclaimed hell and he seems to be afraid of anything that differs from himself.

Squinky · Sat 04/02/2006 20:53:22

This topic is bound to just piss people off. Instead, how about we talk about swinging and "getting it on"?

Damien · Sat 04/02/2006 20:54:05

You guys are SO going to hell.

vict0r · Sat 04/02/2006 20:54:56

Quote from: Albert Einstein
If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.

Heh. Good one

EDIT: To help squinky's suggestion: [sing]You can leave your hat on![/sing]

Squinky · Sat 04/02/2006 21:05:40

If I were the Devil

By Patrick â€œSquinkyâ€ Sullivan

I would make vampires real. And Smexy like. I would most likely model them after
trendy movies like the Lost Boys or Once Bittten.

I would also make giant bigass spiders, that give 35 experience points each if you kill them. If you were lucky you could get a shortsword +1, but you would only have like a 10% chance of that....

I would get myself a rocking guitar and hangout in an intersection somewhere in a cool-ass desert and challenge Ralph Machio to the greatest guitar duel of all time.
Then we would have some sort of crazy montage with him practicing karate.

I would be in Miss Jones.

I would have a skeleton made of titanium. And be able to beat everyones ass with an old axe handle. I might grow my hair real long too, but I'm not sure on that one yet, I wouldn't want to be judged by people because of it.

THEN I WOULD END MY ARTICLE IN CAPS TO HELP DRIVE MY POINT HOME!

rharpe · Sat 04/02/2006 21:08:56

Quote from: MrColossalhttp://www.wonderfulatheistsofcfl.org/Quotes.htm

An interesting read. I didn't realize that site had every registered atheist... not as many as I thought.

MrColossal · Sat 04/02/2006 21:11:40

A post I expected, there's nothing you have to say that there are american presidents on that site, some of which are founding fathers?

That means nothing at all?

"I would gain control of the most powerful nation in the world;"

so if there were some nonreligious founding fathers I guess you can assume that the devil took control of the US when it was a baby, not when it was the most powerful.

rharpe · Sat 04/02/2006 21:15:21

Quote from: MrColossalA post I expected, there's nothing you have to say that there are american presidents on that site, some of which are founding fathers?

That means nothing at all?

You're right, I didn't know they were atheists... I was taught they were Freemasons. Actually, most of the American presidents were. Is there a difference? Either way both are set out to destroy Christianity.

Becky · Sat 04/02/2006 21:16:30

Atheists do not set out to destroy Christianity. They just don't believe in God, gods or any gods of any religion whatsoever.

Damien · Sat 04/02/2006 21:18:51

Christianity is obsolete, much like other religions that are based on the fear of the unknown.

Do you really need the bible to separate the wrong from the right?

Besides how did it help us grow. If we all followed it's dogmas blindly, the Earth would still be a flat board which sun rotates around.

MrColossal · Sat 04/02/2006 21:19:31

I think most were Diest...

So, if you say that there were people set out to destroy christianity [apparently] and they helped write the constitution, whenever you hear anyone say that we should base legislature off the intent of the framers of the constitution when it comes to gay marriage, that would mean that there is no religious reason to be against it, right, so gay marriage is ok as far as the constitution is concerned?

This is a little off topic but it's important

Nikolas · Sat 04/02/2006 21:30:26

Quote from: ildu on Sat 04/02/2006 20:52:10
I feel sorry for the guy. He apparently lives in a self-proclaimed hell and he seems to be afraid of anything that differs from himself.

I don't think he needs you to be sorry. And I'm pretty sure that he's sorry for you right now. Who's right and who's wrong?

What I find wrong with religion (and not God) is that it's old... I think I've said it elsewhere, but still society goes on and religion should go on along. Otherwise this is what you get.

Question: Do we have anybody in these forums that don't believe in God, the christian way, but believe in Bhuda or Allah or whatever. Cause Iwould be very interested to hear his opinion on Pauls , truly close minded, broadcast while abusing the power of the internet and the power of his own name...

Grundislav · Sat 04/02/2006 21:30:27

Quote from: rharpe on Sat 04/02/2006 21:15:21
Is there a difference? Either way both are set out to destroy Christianity.

Christianity has already been destroyed by over-zealous closed-minded religious nutjobs (read: Christians) who seem to have trouble identifying with reality.Ã,Â Kind of makes sense that open-minded thinkers would choose to ignore it, doesn't it?

Barbarian · Sat 04/02/2006 21:32:25

*sigh* I tend to avoid these "Religious" types of debates / arguments, and with good cause. But I'll just briefly mention that, I consider myself a Christian, and I believe there is a God and a devil, a Heaven and a Hell. However I try to respect other people beliefs and freedoms-of-choice without "preaching morals" to them or "beating them over the head with a Bible".

Apologies if the following seems a "rant" and it's certainly not my intention to "preach" to others here. But, I've sat back a long time and watched so many of these types of ~~arguments~~ discussions and I've kept silent. So, I figured this time I would speak up and share some of my personal opinion if anyone cares to listen. (And ya know the saying about opinions: "Opinion are like assholes... everybody's got one." Ã,Â

)

When it comes down to it, the whole "Religion" thing turns-me-off! I mean, look at all the wars, torture, hate, killings, discrimination, racism, etc... and most times in the name of "Religion" or "For my God" or "My God is Stronger than your God", or "What? You don't believe the same thing I do? Then you must perish!"... Ã,Â going back thousands of years right up to current times. It seems that mankind tends to use "Religion" as a type of "Weapon" as a means to try and force their beliefs on others, or to "Justify" doing terrible acts to others, Ã,Â for starting wars, for gaining Political "Power", to sometimes thinly hide their atrocious acts of "Greed" and "Corruption". Ã,Â And I see that the world we live in is such a mess with so many problems, and overshadowing it all, and the cause behind so much of the problems and sufferings we see in the world today, seems to be related to "Religion".

I consider myself more "Spiritual" than "Religious", and the Bible is sort of like a "Guideline", and philosophy that I can try to implement into my life, but really it's up to ME as an Individual human being to discover what the message of the Bible means to me. Ã,Â In my many years of "soul-searching", I've read the Bible, as well as many books about philosophy, Ã,Â books about Buddhism & Taoism and other similar such works. Ã,Â And really, I don't see the overall message from being so different from one concept, "belief" or "way" than the others. Ã,Â Most of them I see share a very similar message, Examples might include similarities between different beliefs such as "Be good to others. Love others. Respect Others. Respect and appreciate life." type of messages. Ã,Â

Ã,Â For me, my relationship with the Lord is a personal matter for me, and I don't like for others to tell me how to have my relationship with the Lord. That's my business!
Ã,Â I think it's up to each individual person to discover what's the right path for them, and as far as I'm concerned, as long as people are NOT hurting others, then regardless of what their beliefs are, I will respect their beliefs. Ã,Â I mean, why am I any "better" or "worse" any more "right" or "wrong" or "deserving" or "undeserving", than someone else simply perhaps because of where I was born, the culture I grew up in, what morals and beliefs were taught to me in family, school, church, society, etc... Just because I grew up in a certain area where I'm "taught" certain beliefs, does that automatically mean perhaps that a different country, in which the culture, society, education, beliefs, etc.. that are different than mine, that perhaps they are all "wrong" or "bad" or "evil"?

Ã,Â Bullshit I say! No one is any better than anyone else because of their race, religion, what country they were born in, their culture, etc... We're all human beings and share the same planet, the same sky, the same moon, sun and stars. We're all "Brothers and Sisters", so I say this: "Have an open mind! Learn to respect others, regardless of some obvious differences, and we can learn and grow together as human beings by sharing with each other." Ã,Â

Ã,Â As far as I'm concerned, I'm glad the good Lord made us all a bit different, otherwise it would be a very boring world indeed. Ã,Â Still that being said, it's a nice notion to hope for peace for humankind regardless of differences amoung us. Ã,Â

Gord10 · Sat 04/02/2006 21:38:17

I'm definitely thinking same with Barbarian.

QuoteQuestion: Do we have anybody in these forums that don't believe in God, the christian way, but believe in Bhuda or Allah or whatever. Cause Iwould be very interested to hear his opinion on Pauls , truly close minded, broadcast while abusing the power of the internet and the power of his own name...

I'm Muslim (but I'm more freethinker than other people in some Muslim countries). I've just already told a few things that I believe; but don't hesitate to PM me if you wonder/discuss something.

JimmyShelter · Sat 04/02/2006 21:41:49

Quote from: rharpe on Sat 04/02/2006 20:44:10
But being that most of you don't even believe in God or the Devil, you probably could care less to what Mr. Harvey or really anyone says concerning morality and the like... Why? Because you do as you please, when you please, how you please, according to you and no other. Life is only about you, and the angels that guide you. (Good or bad)

Yup, I do as I please, luckily what pleases me is just to be a decent person.

ManicMatt · Sat 04/02/2006 21:42:05

Agreed Barbarian.

(For the record I consider myself agnostic)

It is irrelevant, but have you seen what Paul Harvey looks like? (I think I found the right Paul)

http://www.paulharvey.com/

WARNING: Don't look if you value your eyesight!

Meh, I'll be cruel to this bastard because I consider him to be evil or misguided, myself.