It's been 25 years..

[CoffeeBob]

I've searched through the forum, but couldn't find anything similar, so here's a tribute thread to one of the greatest musicians of all time, John Lennon, who unfortunately was shot 25 years ago by the Dakota apartment-building in New York City. I might not've lived during his lifetime, but that doesn't stop me from listening to and enjoying all the great songs he has composed/written in the past. I hope his murderer feels guilty and regrets what he's done, because murdering a great person who did so much good music and had a strong influence on rock, is just sick, in my opinion.

So, are there anymore Lennon-fans who wants to spend a few minutes writing a tribute-post to him? I sure hope so. ;P

[Tuomas]

25... I wasn't even born back then. Yet I have my own reasons of feeling sorry for the event and angry for the shooter, who just wanted publicity. A great band, a great band, The Beatles I must admit, and John Lennon, what a great artist. Not only was he then, but his songs will never die. Well, I guess he just got too good and popular for his own good. 25 years ago we had a moment that silenced the whole world, I shall have mine now. And as a fan in general, I shall put my word for George Harrison too who assed away a few years ago. Nevertheless, there ought not to be too much grief, no-one would want that. Hey, all you need is love, and that we shall have, right

[Evil]

I've had the urge to play some of his hits, but I know it's not what he'd want.

[rharpe]

The real tragedy is not Lennon's death, but the scandal he made to those that were innocent... even 25 years later. Some of his songs gave terrible messages, and some of his albums with Yoko-Ono were plain pornographic. It's also sad that he never was able to patch up his broken relations with his band member & friend, Paul Mccartney. He was talented, but full of himself. This brought the band to its demise.

If Lennon would have been still alive, I'm sure he would have never made that album with the other band members, made a few years back.

[MrColossal]

What?

The post confuses me quite a bit. So a man making some albums is worse than his death?

[Evil]

John claimes that he was about the music. And that the other band members (mainly "fucckking" McCartney) were in it for the glory. He claimed he was the "true artist."

He also said he hated the fans at his concerts whom shouted and that they didn't understand his music and they need to listen to something else.

[Nikolas]

...because murdering a great person who did so much good music and had a strong influence on rock, is just sick, in my opinion...

So if Chapman was murdering somebody else, say someone unfamous, he wouldn't be sick?
Just something that struck me as strange!

I like the Beatles and I like Lennon's music. I also like McCartney's music. And everybody's else. I've heard that generally they didn't get allong very well, but I guess that every detail will be left over as a myth better than a fact...

As far as I know he was a great man, a great musician, a great thinker and a great leader. It is a shame...

[Candle]

I talk to John one day on hollywood and vine , had a nice talk about diff things and he was a charming man.
I still feel sad to this day anout his death.

[rharpe]

So a man making some albums is worse than his death?

That's not what i said.

The real tragedy is not Lennon's death, but the scandal he made to those that were innocent... even 25 years later. Some of his songs gave terrible messages, and some of his albums with Yoko-Ono were plain pornographic.

[MrColossal]

Yes, I would think that the real tragedy was that he died and not that he made some albums you don't like.

[Kinoko]

You must really be a Lennon fan to get so picky about words. I hear what he's saying, man (notice the hippie speak? Did ya?? My own tribute to Lennon!)

Seriously, I hate Lennon and Ono and her stupid bloody camera ads. I especially hate the Beatles and Paul McCartney (arrogant tosser).

I have no particular beef with G. Harrison though I do love Ringo. What a DUDE! Thomas the Tank Engine, and the Simpsons. He rocks.

I couldn't give less of a shit about Lennon's death and I'll agree with rharpe that his music is a bigger tragedy because although he was always gonna die at some point, but I'm still forced to occasionally listen to his music.

[DGMacphee]

Yes, I would think that the real tragedy was that he died and not that he made some albums you don't like.

Agreed. Agreed with every bone in my body.

So a man making some albums is worse than his death?

That's not what i said.

The real tragedy is not Lennon's death, but the scandal he made to those that were innocent... even 25 years later. Some of his songs gave terrible messages, and some of his albums with Yoko-Ono were plain pornographic.

But that IS what you said. You said the tragedy wasn't his death. Then you said the real tragedy was that his music had some "bad" messages (and let's face it, asking for peace and saying you're a walrus are BAD messages). The way you have weighed things (i.e. placing Lennon's death as "not a tragedy" and his music's messages in the "tragedy" category) means that you think the messages in his music were worse than the fact he was murdered.

Which leaves me to reply, "Umm, have you got your priorities right?"

Also:

If Lennon would have been still alive, I'm sure he would have never made that album with the other band members, made a few years back.

Yes, I think that if a musician were alive there'd be less chance of him making a reunion album than if he were dead. I'm also looking forward to Zombie Cobain's reunion with the rest of Nirvana.

[IM NOT TEH SPAM]

I'm going to say the same thing here as I said to my friends when Reagan died:
He died.  It's sad.  Many people liked him, and weather or not you agreed with his messages, he was a well loved man who died tragically.

[Helm]

Rharpe go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong, but basically his messages that you find offensive would be about him being a vastly influential figure with a strong leftist, secular agenda, right? Just so the people of this thread can make more sense of where you're coming from.

[DGMacphee]

Cause being a lefty is worse than killing lefties. Hey, sounds like a Maddox article...

"I HATE HIPPIES, KILL THEM ALL lol

23,563 people think Hippies are deserving of death"

[Nikolas]

Kinoko: Why so much hate? You actually mean that you don't mind him dying but you mind listening to his music? That's, that's, that's....

rharpe: you did sound exactly as your post suggests. and as everybody thinks...

[Blackthorne]

I think that Lennon was deified by his murder, which is really strange. I think people put too much weight on him, and his legacy and he isn't alive to live it down.

He wanted people to make the world better by believing in themselves, not blindly following someone else. My making yourself better, you make the world better. In a way, after his death, he became everything he worked against.

Now people go around quoting "Imagine" like it's a mantra, and they can barely name any other Plastic-Ono Band songs.  People take what they like and discard the rest.

Bt

[Kinoko]

Look, now this is just it. You're all only jumping on this bandwagon because rharpe said that about omfg!11 John Lennon.

Were this a thread about, say... Rolf Harris or the Pretenders, you'd all keep your mouths shut and understand that it doesn't -MATTER- that he doesn't shed a tear of baby laughter at the mention of John Lennon's death. He's a famous figure, and hence not a terribly real person in most people's lives. You know what? I rather hope John Howard gets raped by a camel.

Is it gonna happen? Unlikely. Will John Howard feel bad that I said that? Even less likely because he'll never know. Me saying I don't give a crap about John Lennon's death didn't receive much of a response at all, but rharpe making somewhat of a wise-crack about JL's music being shit has got you all clinging to your PC Bibles.

Seriously, I'm a little disappointed.

Nik: Look, I like you, but grow a sense of humour, okay Shit-talking, people. Shit talking.

But no, I don't care that he died. Why should I? You're all just offended because YOU like John Lennon and god forbid some other people don't. Or at least, they don't worship him. I actually hate him, his music shits me, and it's crap and boring. I'd be upset if, say, Alice Cooper died. I'd be upset if Michael Jackson were indeed found guilty of child molestation. These are people whose music means something to me and so I'd be sad to see them out of the scene (although they both are anyway).

I don't like the Beatles, I don't like John Lennon, I'm actually rather glad they didn't have the chance to keep going so I'd have even more of their music to avoid.


Oh, and I don't wanna hear anyone talk shit about Maddox >:|

[Helm]

I really don't like the beatles or john lennon, for one. In fact oversaturation of beatles songs (or anyone's songs really) irritates me as much as anyone, and I'm not defending him, but I don't see the point of posting on a 'tribute' thread of some dead guy to say that he sucks or his music was bad or the things he stands for are awful.

[MrColossal]

So you'd be sad if someone who's music mattered to you died, so you come into a Lennon tribute thread to tell people who feel Lennon's music mattered to get a life?

I'm confused.

Also, I don't have an opinion one way or the other for The Beatles or Lennon as a musician. I don't listen to either, I've heard maybe 2 albums all the way through, what I'm surprised at is that Rharpe who I thought was a religious guy would be able to say that the tragedy wasn't a human life being lost but that some of his music was bad.

Also also, DG likes Maddox.

edit:

"Me saying I don't give a crap about John Lennon's death didn't receive much of a response at all, but rharpe making somewhat of a wise-crack about JL's music being shit has got you all clinging to your PC Bibles."

Nikolas said something it seems, what type of response would you like? And what are you talking about, PC Bibles?