It's been 25 years..

[Squinky]

Also also, DG likes Maddox.

DG is Maddox, it's just another one of his jokes....That wacky Jokester...

[Kinoko]

I just wanted to back rharpse up a bit, by giving some people a little perspective.

MC: I did NOT come here telling everyone here to get a life, but I told them not to be so stiff. rharpse just made a slightly smart ass comment about JL's music. He wasn't seriously wishing grief upon a man's family.

There's just no way you guys would have made a big deal about that comment if it were directed at a "lesser" star.

Re: DG & Maddox - fair enough. All is well.

[rharpe]

For those that cannot understand what I'm trying to say:
1. I don't like John Lennon.
2. The real tragedy is that his work has had a lasting bad influence over the 25 years.
3. The albums he has made had pr0n covers with Yoko Ono.
4. He was selfish.
5. The world praises him as a great martyr, saint, etc... He's not.
6. He may have died tragically, but so have so many others that have gone unrecognized.

You may all look up to him as a god, (notice: the "g" is lowercase,) but he is far from it.

[MrColossal]

why did you come to a Lennon tribute thread to tell people how much you hate Lennon then?

Kinoko, I don't care if he's a star, he was a human being and now he is dead. He was a man that was murdered.

which fits in with this:

6. He may have died tragically, but so have so many others that have gone unrecognized.

So which dead people deserve to be mourned and which don't?

[Helm]

2. The real tragedy is that his work has had a lasting bad influence over the 25 years.

explain

[Las Naranjas]

Lennon was the direct inspiration for Linkin Park, American Idol and R. Kelly's Trapped In The Closet Helm.

[Kinoko]

It's an open thread, I don't see why someone can't come here to express a different opinion on the subject. If the OP had specified "Please, no negative posts" I would have refrained. If there was a thread on how great cricket was, I'd probably pop in to say how stupid cricket was. If there were a thread on how great volleyball was, Ã, I wouldn't care. I really, really think cricket is dumb and the same goes for John Lennon. I also find that Beatles fans tend to get a little carried away with thinking the world is in unison in terms of love for them. I reckon it gives you guys just a little perspective. Keeps you on your toes, perhaps.

Think of it also like me butting in on a thread about how great the Nazis were. I'd be all, "No way man, they sucked!". Sometimes you feel it's your duty to help people with bad opinions by expressing your opposite one.

I guess this makes me a bit of a Jehovah's Witness... O_O

EDIT: Oh god, don't even get me started on how annoyed I was at the Australia Idol Beatles special. As if the Beatles were a freaking genre of music!

[rharpe]

My intentions were not to make people mad, but as is always the case, I differ in the tribute opinion. *embarrassed* I didn't realize it was an official tribute post. My mistake.

So, for tribute posts, a person isn't allowed to post their dislike for the person(s) that the post is tributed to? *slaps hand and goes to sit in a corner*

I guess I would be classified as a tribute-post picketer. (Just a little lite humor) *no one laughs*

[MrColossal]

Notice I never said you couldn't. I asked why you would.

I hope your fight against Beatles fans goes well, Kinoko.

So I guess I'll go back to clutching my PC bible... Whaever that means, I guess I was being politically correct in some way?

[Fuzzpilz]

I don't know about political correctness, but surprisingly enough the fact that "meh, cricket is stupid" isn't the same thing as "meh, he didn't deserve to live anyway" seems to need pointing out.

[earlwood]

I was afraid I was going to get a call from my sister today about this mess, but she spared me becuase I didn't bring up Frank Zappa's death's 12th anniversery on Sunday.

I suppose I should just log back off until 2018 until it's time to make my own "It's been 25 years" thread..

[Kinoko]

If you don't understand it now after my example of John Howard and the camel, you'll probably never get it.

[MrColossal]

And if you don't understand the fact that for me and Helm and I'm assuming Fuzz, it's about a human being dying, not a star, then you'll never get it either. So that's that then!

[DGMacphee]

Were this a thread about, say... Rolf Harris or the Pretenders, you'd all keep your mouths shut

Hey! I love The Pretenders!

They give me a sense of purpose, a real sense of purpose, now.

Also also, DG likes Maddox.

I do. And like Sesame Street, Mr T and other things I like, I make fun of Maddox.

DG is Maddox, it's just another one of his jokes....That wacky Jokester...

Fuck it. I'm everyone. The internet is just a bunch of fake accounts created by me. AND I FOOL YUO ALL!!1 (and by yuo, and really mean me)


Listen, have whatever opinion you want of Lennon. If you love him, hate him, whatever, fine. Post it here. No big deal. I'm fine with it.

Hoever, when someone say things like "The real tragedy is that Lennon's music was distasteful and not the fact that he died" they can only expect people to go "Hey, wait, that's a fucked thing to say!"

I like Lennon, sure. I prefered the Beatles as a whole though. I dug their music. I also think that it's very sad he died. And not just died, but murdered. And I find it sad when someone who creates something with such great depth gets killed. There is so much potential wasted.

[Squinky]

I've always thought Lennon was an elitist ass-hole, but I agree his death was a tragedy....

I can't help but think he has been made more interesting to people because of his death. It kinda being "cool" to like him....

I also think that if he didn't die that way, he would have spiraled into obscurity.....

And DG, why do you hate Idaho so much?
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=idaho_blows

[Kinoko]

Like Tu Pac and Kurt Cobain.　How many shirts would those guys be on if they have lived? My god, if I see one more picture of Tu Pac with wings and a halo... I guess I'll be exactly the same. If it happens today though I'll probably laugh at the coincidence.

[pslocum]

"i hope he gaets raped by a camel lol ^_^" is such an ingenious bit of philosophy.

You guys obviously just don't get how deep and expansive it is.

[Kinoko]

Pff, since when do I spells gets like "gaets".

Anyway, your cutting sarcasm just goes towards my point. It's NOT deep and philosophical, it's talking crap that doesn't matter. Some serious-minded people take it the wrong way and start thinking you actually place no value on a human life.

[DGMacphee]

I also think that if he didn't die that way, he would have spiraled into obscurity.....

I don't know about that. Ray Charles and Johnny Cash both died naturally and I doubt they're going to spiral into obscurity any time soon.

Hell, they even had films made about them.

And DG, why do you hate Idaho so much?
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=idaho_blows

I think my reasons are spelled out quite well in that article, sir!

NAPOLEON DYAMITE? MORE LIKE NAPOLEON DYA-MIGHT NOT!!

Edit: Upon further refection, I cannot spell "dynamite".

[modgeulator]

The albums he has made had pr0n covers with Yoko Ono.

For anybody who might of been offended by the cover of "Two Virgins" I've made this new improved version: