Knytt Stories is released!

blueskirt · Tue 28/08/2007 17:53:05

For everyone who loved Nifflas' previous games and for everyone who can't run Bioshock on their computer:

http://nifflas.ni2.se/index.php?main=02Knytt_Stories

I was planning to draw something for Dave Gilbert's fanart contest, but this completly change my plans. $:-\$

Radiant · Tue 28/08/2007 18:02:02

I'll check it out. I found WADF to be an awesome game (it's on my top-twelve list), although I found the original Knytt rather boring.

Ubel · Tue 28/08/2007 21:00:02

Wonderful! Thanks for letting us know! I'm gonna check this out as soon as possible!

I just loved Nifflas' games.

Inkoddi · Tue 28/08/2007 21:15:04

Hurrah! I betatested this, so I know that it is brilliant.

TheJBurger · Wed 29/08/2007 23:58:24

Quote from: Radiant on Tue 28/08/2007 18:02:02
I'll check it out. I found WADF to be an awesome game (it's on my top-twelve list), although I found the original Knytt rather boring.

I played WADF and was confused by the completely unrelated intro, then I hopped around until I became frustrated with the control scheme and killed myself 10 times.
I played Knytt and enjoyed a vast and atmospheric world with tons of detail which proved to be a simple, yet relaxing experience.

As far as Knytt Stories:
I just finished all the levels and I liked the original Knytt better. It seemed like the two BIG levels were designed around dead ends and collecting up power ups to proceed past the dead ends. This kind of annoyed me because the first Knytt was rather non-linear, with the power ups being additional to get past dead ends (I can't remember, but it seemed like you could beat the game without the power ups, but it would be alot harder). And even if you did run into a dead-end, I recall there being many ways to get around them.
Also, in Knytt Stories, you have to collect keys (at least on one level) to complete the level. This was kind of tedious especially since you lost your "homing ray" from Knytt. That had me wandering around over and over, backtracking trying to look for random secret passages.

Anyway, it's still a good game with excellent, yet simple graphics and very nice music. My favorite level was probably the undersea water one.

blueskirt · Thu 30/08/2007 02:07:36

So far I've finished the Tutorial and The Machine levels and I'm loving it. This guy has the strange ability to create games that generate emotions, I went from joy to sadness, fear, calm, wonder, anger, surprise and accomplishment while playing The Machine level.

Regarding Knytt, for what reason you didn't like it compared to WADF? Was it because there were no powerup to find or because it offered little challenge? Because if the problem was the lack of challenge, I suggest you to give the eXtra Hard version a try. At first glance it might looks like it's the same old Knytt with a few more things that can kill you or some critters turned into enemies, but later on you'll quickly discover the most nefarious things this version add are dead-ends and one way roads in several crucial places to really force you to use your brain to find how to reach the ship parts or the next area.

If you don't use the codes to run faster and jump higher, you'll often find yourself walking into a one way road, forcing you to walk all the way to the area you were before. There's also a few ship parts that can only be reached by some secret passages, several times the game will play some tricks with your mind and you'll find yourself completly lost, turning in circle and trapped in an areas with no visible exit. It's simply labyrinth exploration pushed to the extreme.

It took me 4 hours non-stop to collect all of the ship parts without using the powerups codes, and for at least 3 of the hardest parts I've simply been lucky to quickly spot how to reach them. If you liked Knytt but found it wasn't challenging enough, you should definitivly try the eXtra Hard version.

Radiant · Thu 30/08/2007 10:51:35

I think you just outlined it. One-way roads, dead ends, and lengthy walkabouts are not my idea of a challenge. It is the kind of game that is solved through persistence, rather than skill.

(edit) just completed Knytt stories. Nicely atmospherical, as to be expected from Nifflas, good graphics and ambients, but way too short and easy.

Ghormak · Wed 05/09/2007 01:32:35

Adorable little game.

I made a level.

It's called Rain

blueskirt · Wed 05/09/2007 14:09:56

It is an excellent level, Ghormak, you should submit it on the KS forum.

voh · Wed 05/09/2007 14:33:17

I had fun with the tutorial and the first adventure, but it just got frustrating as soon as I played the other levels (save for that one where when you go left you enter the same room from the right, whatever it was called, that one was fun).

Cute graphics though

Ghormak · Wed 05/09/2007 14:35:24

Whee, thanks Blueskirt! I think I'll fix a few things (there's at least one animal in there that walks on air) and maybe add a hint about the secret area you need to find, and then it'd be ready for an "official" release.

edit:
http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?topic=1156.0 done!

Radiant · Wed 05/09/2007 22:08:27

Quote from: voh on Wed 05/09/2007 14:33:17
(save for that one where when you go left you enter the same room from the right, whatever it was called, that one was fun)

Do you know what it was called?

TheJBurger · Wed 05/09/2007 22:21:36

Quote from: Radiant on Wed 05/09/2007 22:08:27
Quote from: voh on Wed 05/09/2007 14:33:17
(save for that one where when you go left you enter the same room from the right, whatever it was called, that one was fun)

Do you know what it was called?

He's talking about "Sky Flower." That level only goes vertical with no horizontal screens.

Nice level Ghormak. I loved the music and the little creatures afraid of the rain. The only thing I didn't like was that some of the tiles appeared to be in the foreground while actually being in the background. I jumped on several tiles and fell to my death because they looked exactly like the ones I was standing on.

Radiant · Wed 05/09/2007 22:51:54

Okay, am I doing something wrong here? I can find a download for all third-party levels, which this is not, and for all Nifflas levels except this one??

TheJBurger · Wed 05/09/2007 23:02:08

Here's where I downloaded it from.

http://nifflas.ni2.se/index.php?main=02Knytt_Stories&sub=04Get_More_Levels

"Sky Flower" comes included with "A Strange Dream."

Radiant · Wed 05/09/2007 23:17:17

Quote from: TheJBurger on Wed 05/09/2007 23:02:08
"Sky Flower" comes included with "A Strange Dream."

Ah, that explains why I couldn't find it. Nifflas is better at game design than at webpage design

Thanks.

Nlogax · Thu 06/09/2007 20:55:41

Wow, I love the original Knytt. Can't wait to give this one a go!

pslocum · Fri 07/09/2007 23:43:35

Quote from: Ghormak on Wed 05/09/2007 01:32:35
I made a level.

It's called Rain

Very nice atmosphere.

While we're on the subject of nice user-created levels, this is also pretty great.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Sat 08/09/2007 09:36:09

Not to break up a loyal fanbase or anything but I didn't find this game particularly interesting. Sure it has tons of rooms, and several powerups, but aside from the hologram generator none of the gameplay is new or creative. The game's goal is also too paper-thin for my liking and constructed purely around getting one upgrade to get another to get the next. I like a bit more interactivity than that, so I can't really say this game is anything special. Just because I don't particularly like the game doesn't mean that I can't appreciate the level of effort invested in making it, however. I just think the author has the skill to do more than simplistic jump and avoid gameplay.

Just my opinion!

Nikolas · Sat 08/09/2007 09:58:20

I will agree with ProgZ, but the thing is that I don't think that it's always necessary to be THAT creative, that unique, etc. I kinda liked that all I had to do is chase down power ups and the atmosphere did fill me up, which was great!

It's not something I will "not forget" or anything, but it sure is good fun... And that's enough for me, at this point.