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Here's another funny one:


Calin Leafshade

Quote from: Stupot on Sat 06/03/2010 11:45:31
Sure, it was extreme and cruel but that's exactly WHY it was funny.  There's no point getting all moralistic about it (as folks tend to do on these boards).  It's entertaiment.

Doesn't anything about that statement strike you as odd? It was funny BECAUSE it was cruel?

I've got an idea. Why dont we push a guy with no legs off his wheelchair and laugh at him while he's crying on the floor.

Quote from: Stupot on Sat 06/03/2010 11:45:31
Have you never seen those skating videos, where dudes slip, their legs falling either side of the railings and their bollocks crushed.   Ouch!... painful right.  I know every bloke here would empathise with said dudes, and most women too... it's never comfortable viewing to watch someone get hurt, especially there... but here's the point... it's still fucking funny!  I don't go "oh no, this guy did not to deserve to hurt himself so... I'm going to make a point of not laughing and then feel smug about how moral I am".  Instead, I just laugh because it's funny.

It's not really the same thing is it? Those people arent brutally laughed at while they are in agony and then forced to slink away to their room to sob themselves to sleep. In the immediate aftermath they are helped and attended to.

Also there is a distinct difference between emotional pain and physical pain in terms of its effect on the person.

If someone falls over then it's probably not going to leave any lasting damage besides a few benign scars.

Would you laugh at the skater if it turned out he had to have his legs amputated?

Emotional damage can be far more devastating.

NsMn

Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Sat 06/03/2010 12:34:42

I've got an idea. Why dont we push a guy with no legs off his wheelchair and laugh at him while he's crying on the floor.


I hope there aren't any handicapped persons in this forum...

Calin Leafshade

Well I'm hoping it was clear that I was being sarcastic.

Meowster

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Oh man the cheating clip is awful. Before you say it, yes I HAVE been cheated on and I know how much it hurts. But guess what I did - I cried a bit and then I dealt with it privately, me and my partner. What I did not do is call up a bunch of radio disc jockey retards who really don't care about me or my feelings let alone those of my partner, so they can laugh at both our expenses and so can the rest of the world.

Let he is without sin cast the first stone blah blah blah... I don't like listening to grown men laughing at and taunting someone crying and in distress, someone who I've managed to judge well enough to condone this within about two minutes of hearing someone else talking about her. I don't care if she's in the wrong or not, it's the principle of it. If he's the kind of guy who would do something like that then I am not surprised she cheated... They sound like a couple of terrible people.

Also though Stupot I can't watch those accident videos because they make me cringe so bad :) But I think there is a marked difference between laughing at a guy slapstick falling over, who has presumably been helped afterwards etc, and laughing at someone crying and pleading while grown men mock and laugh at her in public and then the whole internet starts screaming "DIE YOU WHORE!" or "Nasty whoreface slag HAD IT COMING!" etc at her.

I guess it is fine, we all find different things funny etc, but I just hate that clip and the reaction of so many people who watch it... "what a whore, had it coming". Seems like a really nasty thing to think.

EDIT: Yes I thought it was obvious you were being sarcastic ;)

NsMn

Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Sat 06/03/2010 12:41:23
Well I'm hoping it was clear that I was being sarcastic.

That was not what I meant. My point is that you obviously think that people who lost their legs start to cry helplessly once they are out of their wheelchair.

Calin Leafshade

well my imaginary scenario kinda involved forcefully pushing them down and keeping them down by force. But I do see what you mean. Point well made.

Ali

Is it a problem with a nature of internet debates, that when arguing in favour of compassion and humanity it was necessary for Calin to explain exactly how he would make a man with no legs cry?

Sounds like the kind of thing Hitler would have done.

Andail

Quote from: Stupot on Sat 06/03/2010 11:45:31
I won't lie.  I found it funny.  She got her come-uppance.  Sure, it was extreme and cruel but that's exactly WHY it was funny.  There's no point getting all moralistic about it (as folks tend to do on these boards).  It's entertaiment.

Hm...why is there no point? Strange thing to say.

I don't think I'm usually being moralistic, I just found this particular clip over the line and I expressed why.

"It's entertainment"...another strange statement. Is anything ok as long as it is intended as entertainment?

I also don't think this board is more moralistic than the average group of ordinary people, like a bunch of colleagues or friends and family or whatever. Sure, compared to 4chan or I-mockery or whatnot I guess we care more about good taste here, which is hardly a negative thing.

When Sarah Palin complained on Family Guy for showing a kid with Down's saying Palin was her mother, I thought she was a bit humour-less and unnecessarily sensitive. However I can still understand why she got upset and I wouldn't say that Family Guy should get away for it just because it's entertainment and there's no point in being moralistic, I would say that in this case they should get away with it because it simply wasn't provocative enough to my mind, but this is all subjective, which is why it's always important to discuss it.
My 2 cents!

Tuomas

Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Sat 06/03/2010 12:34:42

I've got an idea. Why dont we push a guy with no legs off his wheelchair and laugh at him while he's crying on the floor.


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