for FREE: Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun + Firestorm

[Matti]

Sorry. Since Westwood always reminds me of C&C I should have said: C&C sucks. Big time!

[InCreator]

No it doesn't.

Also, I blame arboris and auriond for downfall of the legend. Support crap and crap you will get.

Red alert 3 - a...a...awesome? You wanted to say "omfgthisisgodawfulandworstgameevar1!". No matter how many cute chicks in FMV, the game still sucks.
CnC4? I meant CnC 3. But since they're exactly same glowing crap, no matter.

Then again, it's the sci-fi that ruins things for me. Somehow, far-far-future things totally suck IMO.
Because you can put whatever amount of lasers and space wonders into it, no creativity needed. Everything stupid is excused.

But taking a real world and slightly adjusting it into something awesome, now that's interesting. I can relate to it. It's fun to wonder mysterious crystal tiberium growing under my window. Gazillion spaceships and stupidity (like in  Independence day), not so much.

That's why people like X-files over Mars Attacks and Lost is so damn popular despite creators having major lulz at viewer's cost: there still could be simple, believable (REALISTIC!) explanation to the mystery, without too much random space stuff.

That's the difference between new and old CnC games too. Laser obelisk and stealth technology I believe -- but every machine having legs and soliders shooting unnamed rays I do not.

CnC != Starcraft!!!

[auriond]

Sorry InC, cute chicks don't factor in my definition of awesomeness. The presence of Tim Curry does though. That alone made Red Alert 3 awesome. That and Rammstein some time back (was it Red Alert 2? 1?)

No, but why are you so dead against futuristic sci-fi? People like Star Wars and Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica too, y'know. Not everyone is an X-Files and Lost fan. In fact, Lost lost me really early on in the series, when it was evident that the writers had no idea where they were going with the story. Mars Attacks isn't even a comparable genre of sci-fi.

As for me, I support CnC, Red Alert et al not because of any cute chicks or sci-fi-ness (remember I skipped all FMVs!) I just like RTS games, that's all. The gameplay is so addictive. If that's crap, bring it on.

[Sektor 13]

I would say that newer CnC games (Like Generals, Tiberium Wars, RA3 and CnC4) are based in the new way of thinking and for new generation players.
I think the almost all new games don't have the "magic" that was present in older ones.

I am only 26, but i was there in the 90' when all the best genres arrived and games were just to die for.

CnC has lost its magic, but we can still play the old ones. I replayed CnC 1, Ra1, Tib Sun again few months ago, and you know what, it was great experience, better than 95 % of todays games.

I lost my faith in good games few years ago when all crappy Need for Speeds, CnC 3+ and all other neon based games start to come out.

Maybe it is just me...

[InCreator]

I'm with sektor in this one.

People Nerds like Star Wars and Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica too, y'know.

but i give up, sorry for trolling  

[auriond]

Haha! Touche, though. Only the cool cats play old-skool.

[Jared]

I agree with the quoted "If it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. I only recently played RA3, and as soon as I started it I got a kind of warm, familiar feeling from knowing what I'm dealing with - build the base, get the army and kick some Soviet arse at a quick pace with lots of badass commandos thrown in.

I'm also the guy who likes WWII FPS for similar reasons, so I seem to public enemy #1 of all the net's elitist gamers.

[Technocrat]

I remember when I used to play the first C&C, after borrowing it off a friend. It was special, and different to anything else I'd played at the time! I agree with the people on here who say they're all becoming far too homogenous. Things like stealth tanks aside, C&C and Red Alert were both semi-realistic warfare, then it degraded into lasers from there.

There *are* good sci-fi strategies, Starcraft and Supreme Commander being examples, but making every single example of strategy into some "dark and grimy" generic science fiction future really took away from it somehow.

Also, Red Alert 3 sucked. Except Tim Curry.

Sorry I'm not being particularly constructive, it just had such a lasting impact on my childhood, it's not something I like seeing being messed around with!

[InCreator]

Well, all is not lost.
C&C series have influenced Act of War and it's expansion, which is exactly what C&C should have became in 2000-s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBity08oJes

It has much what C&C should: US Army playing as fully realistic side, Task Force Talon brings mild sci-fi upgrade to it, and Consortium with fully experimental (BUT NOT OVERDONE) technology, hit'n'run orientation and somewhat darker feeling feels pretty much Brotherhood of Nod.

Plus they successfully mix Westwood's original RTS system with Blizzard's way of doing same thing, so it's hybrid with best of each mixed.

That leaves AoW my favourite RTS until something better comes out. But EA won't bring a contender, it seems, because every new C&C game seems to suck, trying to be Starcraft II.

I wish THQ tried to make Company of Heroes in modern era someday. Their approach was quite interesting too.

[Crimson Wizard]

Heh... I tried this TS... and again, at first it was fun, but after few days and 5 missions for both sides I just felt that I don't want to play anymore, and deleted it