Osama Bin Laden dead? Hmm...

[Mr Flibble]

like Bush said....you are either with us or against us.

Huh. If you're not an apple, you're a banana.

[Radiant]

Huh. If you're not an apple, you're a banana.

Only a Sith thinks in absolutes!

[NickyNyce]

I would just like to say...yes America has its many problems...we are no angels...we cause lots of people to dislike us....I do put the shoe on ther other foot...America is not the only good country in the world, by no means is that what i meant. That came out totally wrong.

I am no politician, just a guy who knew some people that lost their lives that day. Sorry to sound rude, just have stirring feelings again by this weeks past events.

the bush quote only meant that if your aiding and harboring terrorists then you just may be one yourself.I am not saying that Pakistan did this, this is just the part that i thought Bush meant when he said it, Yes.....dumb quote... i totally understand what your saying Calin. As for breaking into a compound for the most wanted man in the world, who probably has the whole place ready to blow at a buttons push....I'm not so sure walking in and asking him if he want's to surrender is the best approach....I would imagine that would be extremely difficult.

sorry to all who took this the wrong way

[mkennedy]

When they shot Bin Laden they said they thought he was reaching for a gun and it looks like there were indeed guns in the room where he was shot. So my question is what would the outcry be if instead of killing Bin Laden, they instead shot him in the arm or hand (and possibly blowing it off)?

[InCreator]

And I suppose that would be Team America? Let's ignore the many Europeans that have died because it's all about America.

But who else? Would you like China to police the world? Europe? Russian Federation? No thanks, been there already.

China is a bunch of crazy Communists. Russia, no explanation needed. And Europe - either has no balls or when does, causes horror. British Empire (see India, Northern Africa)? Belgium in Africa (See Rwanda, Congo)?

Also, Team America still CAN take casualties. Other European countries, not so much. It's well reflected in your quote.

With every armed conflict there's a number of caskets to be brought home and most of Western world really cannot accept this. But how the hell do you fight a war if you don't even realize the concept of war? (people shoot at each other and die) It's not medieval times where good swordsman can beat barbarian wielding a club. 7.62mm bullets kill every time, no matter if they're shot by child with AK, desert dweller or well-trained solider.

Why did Vietnam war fail? Caskets. People didn't realize that soldiers will die and went apeshit when it happened. So it all fell apart. Iraq got same bad rap... didn't everyone hate Bush? That's why American government keeps on making up HUUUGE reasons they have to fight this and that and why devil images are created. Osama was one of those. Helps public to digest those casualties. Maybe world police is the same PR? It's not like US really does give two shits about democracy and freedom in some remote desert village... it's all about protecting own interests.

Also I think Western world wielding guns is increasingly needed image in the future. Due our comfortable life and increasing life expectancy, the will to fight decreases every day. Reminds me of sci-fi stories where people in the future are so peaceful that a man with a stick can dominate whole nation. That's the road we've taken, I think... but that's no way to be most aggressive and dangerous species of our galaxy!

[Atelier]

In regards to your post, all I can say is: