Searching For Film Nour Tunes

lo_res_man · Thu 09/02/2006 20:47:04

Hello fellow AGS'ers, I am making a game set in the film noir era, so i am looking for music from and based on those films.I have looked ALl over the internet but i havn't found anything that makes me think of that steriotypical style.i want songs for night clubs, rainy streets, steamy shots, chase shots, furs and federoa's. If you think i am being lazy, i am not, i am just tapping a resorce better then any search engine. the humen mind. to tell the truth i have been loking for the last 3 weeks. and ihave only come up with stuff from "grim fendango", which i think it would be kindof WRONG to use. so plz, help me :'(

Mr Flibble · Thu 09/02/2006 20:50:16

You could try searching for blues and jazz music instead of "film noir" music, as it may yield higher results.

The Inquisitive Stranger · Fri 10/02/2006 01:02:31

Or you could use stuff from Discworld Noir...

Kinoko · Fri 10/02/2006 05:13:15

Yep, "film noir" won't turn up anything. Film Noir music IS jazz/blues! Go out and buy yourself a Benny Goodman CD

I guarantee enjoyment.

Gregjazz · Fri 10/02/2006 05:20:36

Private Eye jazz... Check out some 30's-50's Jazz, preferably the slow swing type of music. Also look into beat poetry and that sort of stuff. Grim Fandango really captures that whole era well.

lo_res_man · Fri 10/02/2006 19:55:26

Quote from: Geoffkhan on Fri 10/02/2006 05:20:36
Private Eye jazz... Check out some 30's-50's Jazz, preferably the slow swing type of music. Also look into beat poetry and that sort of stuff. Grim Fandango really captures that whole era well.

OOHH...YA! thats why i love it baby, grim fendango that is.) to all the rest of you, thanx for all the tips,I will try them.
(told you the human brain is better then any search engine

Mr Flibble · Fri 10/02/2006 23:47:02

I often prefer to ask people instead of googling, as if you aren't sure of the exact term (or, in this case, what exactly you're looking for) then your results will be poor.
Whereas the human brain can accept a concept as a search term (eg. Film Noiry music).

Rincewind · Sat 11/02/2006 14:33:14

Yeah, I do kinda agree that the Discworld Noir soundtrack is extremely sterotypical for the Film Noir-sound (and bloody good, if you ask me), but if you want some original music that isn't made as a soundtrack but still sounds very Film Noir, I recommend checking out a german instrumental doom/horror/film noir-jazz group called Bohren & Der Club of Gore.

One of the most incredible moody and brilliant bands ever, they certainly capture that big city/urban jungle/"dark-and-gloomy-and-grimy"-sound better than anyone else.
The lineup for their songs are usually just a basic, jazzy, hihat-and-snare beat with a plodding, slow double-bass, a haunting fender rhodes piano melody and from time to time some reverb-drenched saxophone leads that cuts through the thick athmosphere like a knife and just tops it off beautifully.

Their album "Sunset Mission" from 2000 is perhaps their best example of the Noir-ish vibes, but I also recommend the album after that one, "Black Earth", which I personally think is better, but is a lot darker, slower and more doom/horror-jazz than Noir-jazz.

Heh. But all of it is great stuff.

It's http://www.bohrenundderclubofgore.de if you want to check them out.

jetxl · Sat 11/02/2006 16:54:12

I hate Noir. It shows the fear for ethnic minorities like blacks, latino's, homo's, jews and in the X-files even aliens is correct. These minorities are here to destroy the family values. To come in contact with their culture will rot your life just like that of the detective.

edit: that fear is unjust.

passer-by · Sat 11/02/2006 16:59:49

Or watch some films to get the feel and then google for similar tunes

Snarky · Sat 11/02/2006 18:30:25

Quote from: jet on Sat 11/02/2006 16:54:12
I hate Noir. It shows the fear for ethnic minorities like blacks, latino's, homo's, jews and in the X-files even aliens is correct. These minorities are here to destroy the family values. To come in contact with their culture will rot your life just like that of the detective.

What the devil are you talking about? Exactly which noir films are you talking about here?

jetxl · Sat 11/02/2006 18:47:48

Any noir films. What are you refering too?

Snarky · Sat 11/02/2006 19:21:31

No films noir that I can think of deal at all with minorities, much less suggest that they are the source of corruption in society.

Just to get started, explain to me how what you said applies to The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Double Indemnity, Sunset Blvd., The Third Man, Touch of Evil, or Kiss Me Deadly. Or, if we're talking neo-noir: Chinatown, Body Heat, Blood Simple, or Insomnia (1997).

Gregjazz · Sat 11/02/2006 19:27:17

To me it's that slow string bass that's what makes up most of the feel... but you're going to need either a real upright bass, or some really good samples...

Blackthorne · Sat 11/02/2006 20:06:39

Wes Montgomery

Miles Davis

Charles Mingus

Eric Dolphy

Grant Green

Check around for some of their work.

Bt

jetxl · Sat 11/02/2006 20:33:32

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 11/02/2006 19:21:31
No films noir that I can think of deal at all with minorities, much less suggest that they are the source of corruption in society.

Just to get started, explain to me how what you said applies to The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Double Indemnity, Sunset Blvd., The Third Man, Touch of Evil, or Kiss Me Deadly. Or, if we're talking neo-noir: Chinatown, Body Heat, Blood Simple, or Insomnia (1997).

Christy Burns seems to agree with me. (p.198 l.19)

Who to believe. An anonymous internet scripting kiddy who hounds me, or an graduate in English and author of several books and essays...

ps: you might want to chech out note 6 & 7.
[Although film noir has focused fairly exclusively on the white, middle-class man's individualism- challenged by femme fatale's destabilitation- Julian Murphet points out that in the period of noir's emergence in the 1940, France was dealing with decolonization and emerging Algerian crisis, while the US was experienceing the white flight to suburbs, which reconstructed cities as "black," plpulated as they were by variety of ethnic poor. Historically, then, noir posits a repression of blackness and racial diversity.J

[In The Maltese Falcon, Joel Cairo is identified as potentially gay and definetely foreign, both in his dress and manner.]

passer-by · Sat 11/02/2006 20:44:35

I've watched many of them and the bad, plotting, scheming, cheating villains have nothing to do with minorities etc. Only secondary characters. But again, I was looking mostly at cars...

MrColossal · Sat 11/02/2006 20:53:13

have you ever seen a film noir, jet?

And who is Christy Burns? People who think film noir is racist or whatever it is you said are far outweighed by people who don't... So why hold this one person in such high regard?

If a movie is made during a time of crisis and reflects that in the movie it... How is this bad?

jetxl · Sat 11/02/2006 20:58:44

Because;
A, She sees The X-Files as modern noir, just like me.
B, She sees aliens in the X-files as symbolism for the (american) fear of losing cuture to ethnic minorities, just like me.

For you last question see first post.

MrColossal · Sat 11/02/2006 21:02:08

Right well, I'm done... That's just too wacky for me.

I guess the black goo in Xfiles is people's fear of black people integrating into our society... And that one Xfiles about cockroaches that killed people was about mexicans and that one Xfiles about snake like fish materializing in salt water to kill people was about... Jews?

How would they go about telling countless writers that worked on that show that the secret symbolism behind the show is that americans are afraid of losing culture and having them all go "Good idea!"