Sherlock is Over

Ali · Fri 06/01/2012 14:20:12

The BBC Sherlock has updated and put a wry twist on well known characters, so I don't see why you'd want to see the new Holmes face the old Moriarty. Are you telling me it's difficult to imagine a psychopathic young stockbroker terrorizing society?

I agree he isn't quite so well transposed as other characters, but I think a young man with a Dr Mabuse-like criminal mind is a very contemporary kind of villain.

InCreator · Fri 06/01/2012 14:34:50

Dunno. I'd switch the roles (and faces) of BBC Moriarty and Mycroft. Intelligence dude sounds more dangerous (and powerful) than office worker and in book, Mycroft was an analyst, much more fitting to stock broker I think.

Khris · Fri 06/01/2012 18:18:30

I found the BBC Moriarty hilarious. What were they thinking? He was more threatening when he pretended to be a gay IT guy.

LUniqueDan · Sat 07/01/2012 18:26:49

[SPAM] Sherlock Series 2 'A Scandal In Belgravia' is repeated tonight on BBC3 at 7pm. [/ SPAM]

Stupot · Mon 09/01/2012 23:16:08

I'm guessing that the lack of activity in this thread following episode 2, The Hounds of Baskerville, means that I'm not the only one who thought this was a pretty disappointing episode?

Atelier · Mon 09/01/2012 23:22:41

That's borderline spoiler Stupot, now I know not to expect wonders

I had to record it and will watch it tomorrow, so I'll tell you want I think too.

Stupot · Mon 09/01/2012 23:34:21

You can rest easily knowing it was still better than basically anything else on British TV, but frankly killing John Watson off like that was just unforgivable. $:-\$

LUniqueDan · Mon 09/01/2012 23:51:05

I was red tapped by the double posting rule:-X

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But... yeah pretty disapointing. :'(

I "solved" most of it by 35:00 then wait, wait and wait until the story followed. It was so obvious that it was narcotic, and anyway...It makes me remember of some poorly written 11th hour or Late House M.D. I never saw Sherlock as disorganised. I was waiting for an extra plan to trick the killer or a punch inside a punch or anything but... no.

I never liked The Hound too much at the first place. If you know the story of Doyle vs Sherlock Holmes, it was probably the one that it was the most obvious that he didn't wants to write about him. (Plus the fact that there's no word for 'Hound' in french. So The Dog of The Baskerville is.... you'll never guess... a dog!!!)

Anyway, how come Watson can succeed hiding something from Holmes ? At home ? Come on!

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Ali · Mon 09/01/2012 23:54:07

Quote from: Stupot+ on Mon 09/01/2012 23:34:21
You can rest easily knowing it was still better than basically anything else on British TV, but frankly killing John Watson off like that was just unforgivable. $:-\$

And crushing him under a particularly heavy scone... there's no dignity in that.

Just watched it, and really enjoyed it. Particularly the incidental music, for some reason. Hooray for Gatiss & Moffat!

LUniqueDan · Mon 16/01/2012 03:12:35

Belgravia should have been the season final instead. In a perfect world with 14 episodes/season it will be ok, but... no.

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Stupot · Mon 16/01/2012 13:27:10

I thought it was fantastic. Back on track after the Baskervile blip.
It didn't really feel that much like a 'mystery of the week' episode, though. More like the finale to a longer, more overarcing plot.

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It was kind of obvious that he'd still be alive, but te scene with Watson in the graveyard still managed to tease my tearducts. And I was watching it in a crowed computer lab in uni... d'oh.

I did notice the distinct lack of Molly in the hospital in the last scenes after he said 'I need you'. I also noticed a conveniently placed open-top rubbish collection truck right next to where he fell. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he knows the exact route of the particular truck in the area and knew that it would be passing at roughly that time. All he needed to do was wait for it to pass underneath, fall into it and roll out onto the pavement relatively unscathed. Either that, or was Molly driving the truck? Maybe, but I doubt it. I think her job was to provide blood, maybe even give Sherlock something that would temporarily stop his heart, that kind of thing.

They were right outside St. Bart's, which has a morgue iirc. So Sherlock was probably sent straight there. Molly could well have helped him out by swapping his body for a John Doe, or something far simpler, but either way, she was definitely in on it.

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paolo · Wed 18/01/2012 17:03:23

Quote from: LUniqueDan on Mon 09/01/2012 23:51:05
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I never liked The Hound too much at the first place. If you know the story of Doyle vs Sherlock Holmes, it was probably the one that it was the most obvious that he didn't wants to write about him. (Plus the fact that there's no word for 'Hound' in french. So The Dog of The Baskerville is.... you'll never guess... a dog!!!)
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But that's what "hound" means in English, too. No one seeing the English title would think it referred to anything other than a dog.

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Calin Leafshade · Wed 18/01/2012 18:18:10

I would like to defend Moriarty. I thought he was threatening in an unpredictable, closet-psychopath kind of way. The old Moriarty wouldve just been too absurd for the setting i think. It worked in Victorian london but it wouldve just been ridiculous here.

LUniqueDan · Wed 18/01/2012 19:25:02

@Paolo : :'( So it's reallty really that lame ? I was sure (I guess I really really wanted to see "Hound" as an allegoria for "hunter" "nemesis" "nightmare" in the comon use of the word)

Mati256 · Thu 19/01/2012 23:50:25

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I'm really curious to see how did Sherlock survive the fall. In the book you never see him fall so it's really easy to came up with a story of how he survived. But here he fall from a building right in front of Whatson. $:-\$

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Stupot · Fri 20/01/2012 02:00:29

Quote from: Mati256 on Thu 19/01/2012 23:50:25
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I'm really curious to see how did Sherlock survive the fall. In the book you never see him fall so it's really easy to came up with a story of how he survived. But here he fall from a building right in front of Whatson. $:-\$
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Read my post above. I'm pretty sure he fell into the dump truck and then rolled out. Might watch it again some time to work on my theory

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LUniqueDan · Fri 27/01/2012 20:55:00

<Spam> For Sherlockians in the UK: You can get a free DVD copy of BBC's Sherlock series 1 in today's issue of the Daily Mail! </Spam>

wtf?!?

Planning to move to the UK...

Stupot · Fri 27/01/2012 21:23:35

Quote from: LUniqueDan on Fri 27/01/2012 20:55:00
<Spam> For Sherlockians in the UK: You can get a free DVD copy of BBC's Sherlock series 1 in today's issue of the Daily Mail! </Spam>

wtf?!?

Planning to move to the UK...

To the shop! ----> Anyone want an unread newspaper?

[Edit] Hmm, maybe not. You need six differently dated tokens I can live with buying one Daily Mail, but if I bought six I'd have to shoot myself out of principle.

Ali · Fri 27/01/2012 21:28:10

Quote from: LUniqueDan on Fri 27/01/2012 20:55:00
<Spam> For Sherlockians in the UK: You can get a free DVD copy of BBC's Sherlock series 1 in today's issue of the Daily Mail! </Spam>

wtf?!?

Planning to move to the UK...

When you get here, you will find that the Daily Mail gives you less joy.

LUniqueDan · Fri 27/01/2012 21:53:41

Quote from: Stupot+ on Fri 27/01/2012 21:23:35
Hmm, maybe not. You need six differently dated tokens I can live with buying one Daily Mail, but if I bought six I'd have to shoot myself out of principle.

Quote from: Ali on Fri 27/01/2012 21:28:10
When you get here, you will find that the Daily Mail gives you less joy.

Come on guys! It can't be that bad!

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