Some people just don't deserve children...

TerranRich · Mon 27/09/2004 17:30:33

http://terranrich.easyjournal.com/

Read the above journal entry and you'll see what I mean. I mean, seriously, some parents just shock me sometimes. Anybody got any stories of witnessing similar occurrences?

Sam. · Mon 27/09/2004 17:37:11

these kind of people make me sick. a similar thing happened to me. a kid had fallen over in the street and , being the kindly upstanding member of the community i am, rushed over to help. the mother was chatting away t one of her moronic friends so i helped him up. he cant have been more than 4. i held his hand and took him back to his mother. no tanks or notice she just gave me this dusgusted look and shoved the kid into a pram. i dont know how these people even notice that they're pregnant

Oliver · Mon 27/09/2004 18:02:46

These kind of people should be put together and shot. Seriously. That's sick. I feel sorry for the children of these kind of people.... $:-\$

SSH · Mon 27/09/2004 18:24:14

Well, I can't speak for the exact circumstances of Rich and Zooty's anecdotes, but let me offer some possible mitigation, from someone with actual experience.

I first went to the local Church's parent-and-toddler group when Alba was less than 18 months old. She had been walking since before she was one, but couldn't do stairs. At the group they had a big wooden slide with quite big gaps between the stairs. Alba loved slides when we have been to playparks before, but I always lifted her onto the slide rather than let her climb up the big steps. Alba seemed keen to go on the slide so with my hands about 2mm away from holding her all the way, she managed to pull herself up the steps and then went down the slide happily. Later the same morning, I turned to look at something else for a couple of second. In the meantime Alba had got herself up on top of the slide and was on her way down. She must have climbed the steps all by herself. In fact, she has never fallen off the slide. Since then , she has managed to climb vertical ladders on slides with rungs about half her whole height apart. So a 4-year-old should be pretty capable with ladders by then, and also pretty capable to pick themselves up after a fall. OK, about the first 100 times your child falls over you run and pick them up straightaway, but as they get older they don't want you to help. So you only go to them if they start crying for you.

On the other hand, some parents do just sit at these things and have a chat with their firends and don't play with their kids at all. But that doesn't make them bad parents, either, just maybe a bit less good, and spekaing for myself I'm usually pretty knackered to go runnign after her, but run I do. Maybe its not having a proper nights sleep in 2 years that does it...?

TerranRich · Mon 27/09/2004 18:32:07

Well, in my case, it wasn't that the parents weren't playing with their kid, it was that they were ignoring him, letting him roam around the store. The thing with my store is that there are forklifts, machines, ladders, and plenty of things that can kill a kid. We've had cases of children sitting down on the mechanism of a rolling ladder that locks it down so it won't roll, chopping off all of one girl's fingers. And with machines, we can't always see if a kid is running around, and if we run them over, it's the parent's fault. I'm not saying a parent should always keep the kid by his or her, but they should at least keep them nearby in a worknig warehouse such as the Home Depot.

And as for the ladder, believe me, it's a 13-step ladder, like a large rolling staircase more than a ladder that people are used to seeing. It's about 15 feet high in the air, and a fall from that onto hard concrete floor can kill a child.

It was a case of me looking out for the safety of a kid that wasn't even mine. I'm just a decent human being. The parents didn't seem to care one bit, serously.

Pft! · Mon 27/09/2004 18:32:30

Sick I tell you! Ã,Â :'(

Neutron · Mon 27/09/2004 18:44:03

this reminds me of the other day when i was at the pool and some girl got dunked by another kid,....the life gaurd stands there scratching his belly, apparently aware that the girl is going down,... ( she needs no help at this point, she is going under by herself ) so I, seeing this,...and also having some lifegaurding experience myself, went in and pulled her out. her parents arrived on the scene as she was gasping and choking, and the lifegaurd is still looking on with a vacant stare. It made me wonder if maybe the guy was just being paid to stand there holding a towel, or what? I guess he didn't want to get wet. What incompetance though,....not only can't you trust your kid alone in a hardware store,...you can't even trust them under the gaze of a lifegaurd in a pool.

TerranRich · Mon 27/09/2004 18:47:35

I understand your story, but "not only can't you trust your kid alone in a hardware store"? I would hope that parents would not leave their kids alone in a hardware store, especially one with working machines and rolling ladders. But it seems to happen more and more, parents not caring where their kids are running off to, even when they hear the beeping and whirring of active machinery moving around.

SSH · Mon 27/09/2004 18:51:41

It's called Irony, Rich

I can see your point, just don't be TOO quick to judge. Sounds like in your case, you weren't, though!

Darth Mandarb · Mon 27/09/2004 18:59:48

I used to work in a super market (wasn't anything super about it ...).Ã,Â One time I caught a woman stealing beer (two 40 oz. bottles).Ã,Â This isn't remarkable ... I used to catch people stealing ALL the time.

She had hidden the beer UNDER HER INFANT BABY in the stroller (pram).

It made me sick to my stomach.Ã,Â I hauled her into the 'holding' office and called the cops.Ã,Â She was BEGGING me ... telling me she'd do 'anything' and even offered a few things (use your imaginations) if I would let her go.

The cops arrested her and they took the baby from her.Ã,Â I don't know how it ended up, but hopefuly the kid was given a better home.Ã,Â But knowing the system, the lady probably got the kid back 2 days later.

*shrugs* you're right Rich ... some people just don't deserve it.

Haddas · Mon 27/09/2004 19:14:53

Once when I was walking down the street I saw a woman talking on her phone and walking quite fast. Her crying child tried to keep up, but she was moving much faster than the child. The child eventually tripped and fell down on the asphalt and scraped it's knee. Then the mother turned around and got angry at the child for falling and telling it that it can't behave.

Eggie · Mon 27/09/2004 19:48:16

My mum works in a school, she's had some pretty weird experiences on parent-teacher night.
The thing is, most of these people we judge as 'bad parents'arn't nessercerly bad people, they just don't understand that what they're doing could be bad for a child.

So. Foolish, yes. Idiots, maybe. Weirdos, most certainly. But bad people...You'df need to spend a bit more time with them to work that out...

TerranRich · Mon 27/09/2004 19:50:41

Maybe not "bad" people, but "idiot" fits them well. Haddas: that's typical with people who aren't fit to be parents. By "fit" I mean people who have the mentality to be a parent. If you don't have the patience for a small child that is slower than you and can't always keep up, then get a chihuahua or something.

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · Mon 27/09/2004 19:57:01

Here's something perverse, that's all eveybody's talking about. In Algarve, a region of Portugal, it seems that some wonam killed her 8yr old daughter for money. And then distributed "Missing" flyers.

Pft! · Mon 27/09/2004 20:48:56

In madiera a small island off portugal, two old men where fighting over a massive pumpkin (sp) & one took out a big knif and lashed theother guy, over a PUMPKIN!

Mr Flibble · Mon 27/09/2004 21:41:51

A short while ago I saw these 2 oldish bags talking in that way they do, and one of them had a 4 year old kid, who was carrying a little shopping bag.

They crossed a zebra crossing, the mother didn't care to check that her child was there, much less hold his hand on this busy main road that led in and out of the city centre.

So they walk on (both smoking) and the kid runs behind them, trying to catch up. Coming back onto the pavement, the kid trips on an uneven kerb stone. He falls flat on his face, dropping the bag. The mother turns around, points towards the bag, shouts, HITS THE CHILD around the back of his little HEAD, then walks on. The child, now in tears, picks up the things from the bag and runs after his mother.
It made me sick, I almost cried.

Some people DON'T deserve children. And seeing how everyone who posted here has a story, maybe more people than we thought are bad parents.

TerranRich · Mon 27/09/2004 21:51:52

That's sad. Seriously, I hate it when old[-fashioned] people treat kids lilke they're doing something wrong, when all they're doing is tryng to keep up with them. That's the way most old folks are; if a kid isn't going as fast as they'd like and they make an honest mistake or accidentally do (or don't do) something, they hit them.

And don't even get me started on the whole physical discipline argument. That's for another thread, at another time. This is the "negligent/stupid parents" thread.

Darth Mandarb · Mon 27/09/2004 23:42:21

Quote from: SQ4.5 on Mon 27/09/2004 20:48:56In madiera a small island off portugal, two old men where fighting over a massive pumpkin (sp) & one took out a big knif and lashed theother guy, over a PUMPKIN!Ã,Â

Yeah, they really shouldn't treat their kids like that ? ? ?

Here's the problem I see a lot these days.Ã,Â Those that shouldn't be having kids (crackwhores, losers, etc) are the ones actually having them.Ã,Â While the people who CAN handle kids, and be good parents, are waiting till they're ready.

It's tragic.Ã,Â But unless they (in America) decide to trim a little [more] fat off the constitution and take away some more of our civil liberties it's just going to keep happening.

These same losers can then cheat wellfair and use the money to buy alcohol, drugs, etc. rather than taking care of their illegitiment child(ren).

Then those same kids grow up and repeat their parent(s) mistakes.Ã,Â It's vicious circle that keeps going 'round and 'round.

Isn't it China that has severe laws about the number of kids per family?Ã,Â How does that work?

BerserkerTails · Tue 28/09/2004 01:35:07

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Isn't it China that has severe laws about the number of kids per family? How does that work?

The One Child policy. I learned about it a bit last year during school. Basically China gives benefits to families with only ONE child, but not to families with more than one child. At first I didn't like this idea, but on more thought it's grown on me. The fact that China's government is actually trying to do something about the overpoulation. And they're being smart about it too. They offer free vasectomies (Spelling?) to any male who wants one, among other things they do to insure that families only have one child.

And back on topic, with the whole Bad Parents thing... I feel privilaged. I live in British columbia, canada, and can't remember the last time I saw an example of bad parenting. Like today, a bunch of my friends were hanging out by a playground (We had the day off school), and a little kid, maybe four came up to us. He was there at the playground with his mother and another kid, and mere seconds after he had started talking to us, the mother rushed over to see where he had gone to. She smiled, saw that he was giving us all high fives (Really cute kid), then saw his mother and rushed back to her. She picked him up, smiled at us, and walked back to the playground.

Gilbert · Tue 28/09/2004 01:52:15

Well that 1-child policy was actually creating tragedies in the mainland. While sometimes parents may love their only child many bad things happened to other families.

(This is not offtopic as it's also dealt with bad parents.)
Traditionally, we Chinese like boys more than girls, for conservative reasons such as keeping the bloodline of the families, and boys are in general stronger, so are more adapted to work on the fields.
When couples gave birth to a baby, if it's a girl, it's not an uncommon news that they may kill her (stangled her to death, choke her in water, or just drop her elsewhere), especially when it's in poor farming regions (if the parents are richer, they may think of abortion, before the baby was born). Often times you can even find dead babies scattered around in the main street in some places.
Another problem thus produced is that now there're much more male youths than female in the mainland (in contrary to Hong Kong here, which is opposite).

Due to these mishaps, I think the policy is not enforced that hard anymore in the mainland.