SouthWest Airlines: Proper or Prude?

[Darth Mandarb]

I am following this story with a little interest ... but it does raise an interesting question in my mind.

On July 3rd (3 July for the rest of the world) Kyla Ebbert was asked to get off a Southwest Airlines flight because her outfit was "too skimpy and revealing".  Here is an article about it (with video showing the outfit):
>> Dressed down for dressing down

Here's a pic:


I watched the video.  The young woman's apparral isn't horrible, but the skirt is pretty darn short and if she moves her legs at all (while sitting) those walking the isles would get a nice show.  She claims they wouldn't, but it's simple geometry, they would.  In the pic above she has pulled the skirt down a bit, using the long shirt to cover her mid-section.  She played all innocent, but I'd be willing to bet that the skirt was actually much higher than she claims.  (just speculation on my part)

I thought nothing much of it, figuring it was just some male, middle aged, love-scorned, and bitter flight attendant coming down on some young hottie.

Then it happened again.

On September 11 (11 September) a young woman named Setara Qassim was asked to "cover up" on a Southwest Airlines flight.  Here is a link to the story showing the outfit (again):
>> Some jet-setters wonder if their outfits will fly

Here's a pic:


This outfit is still a tad revealing, though not like the other one.

I don't know.  A part of me says, "good for Southwest airlines" for finally pointing out how slutty and inappropriate the fashionable "style" has become these last few years.  Then another part of me says, "these women should be able to wear whatever they want"

The first story I really do think the skirt was inappropriate.  It's essentially just underwear and if I were on that flight with my kids (if I had any) I wouldn't want them seeing this young woman's crotch (I would gladly look of course).  The second outfit wasn't so bad I guess. It is a tad revealing I suppose.  I think it's just made more obvious because she has large breasts?

I don't know ... I was just wondering what others think about this type of issue?

Are women/men these days dressing inappropriately?
Does Southwest have the right to enforce a "dress code" on their flights?
Should we, as a global society, "reel" this in?

Am I the only one who cares enough to post about it

[earlwood]

I can certainly understand how a short skirt may prevent the pilots from safely reaching their destination.


Throwing the lady off the flight was probably a bit much, I wonder if she was refunded, my money is on no.

[Domino]

Maybe some Hookers don't like taking the train. 

[Darth Mandarb]

Throwing the lady off the flight was probably a bit much, I wonder if she was refunded, my money is on no.

Both were allowed on their respective flights.

[The Ivy]

None of the networks seem to care that this isn't really news. Just my two cents, anyway. As long as they keep showing girls like that people don't care what they're watching. It's a pretty transparent attempt to get more people to watch their programs. 

[Evil]

I can understand why they made a big deal about the first woman. She was ugg-lee.

[evenwolf]

I'm absolutely appalled when an attracitve female is on the same flight as me.   I much prefer geriatrics and toddlers and overweight loud people.

[MillsJROSS]

I have no problem if an airline would like to enforce a dress code. However, it would probably be more appropriate to tell people before they get on the plane, rather than after. It would also be prudent to explicitly tell people a dress code when purchasing their ticket, so they know in advance. If people don't like it, they can fly another airline.

While I don't really have a problem with what those women were wearing, I'm sure someone does, and I respect that it makes them uncomfortable. The only problem I have with the dress code, is it's up to employee discretion, and it doesn't sound like there is a firm set of rules.

-MillsJROSS

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

Yeah, I think the dress code concept is fine but it should be made public what is and is not acceptable since people more and more are defining what is and is not acceptable on an individual basis.  The first girl doesn't dress in a way I would consider appropriate for being around a bunch of relative strangers on a plane; she seems dressed to go to bar or a nightclub.  Maybe she thought her outfit would draw attention and maybe she didn't even think about it, but the end result is that Southwest did and it's their show.  Defining some kind of casual-but-not-slutty dress code publicly would certainly help them, though there are so many ignorant people in this world (mostly by choice) that they would still have people show up wearing almost nothing and then get indignant when they're told a dress code is public. 

Hell, they'd probably get indignant anyway because it's some breach on their overblown concept of rights...

[Nacho]

If the people who wear unnapropiate clothes are so pretty as those two, no problem.

[Radiant]

I think America should start by banning fat people from flights. [/sarcasm]

Seriously though, this from the country that thought flight attendants in bikinis (aka Hooters Airlines) was the way to get people to fly again after certain airline incidents? Hipocrisy shows its ugly head. If skimpy clothing would be disallowed from airlines, what about buses, and libraries, and restaurants? Next thing you know there's an ethics police telling people how to behave, and arresting the wrongdoers. Because that's working oooh so well in the Middle East.

[LUniqueDan]

If skimpy clothing would be disallowed from airlines, what about buses, and libraries, and restaurants?

Personnaly, I'm not worrying in any ways about librairies.
Don't ask.



-Princess Kida : : "You are a scholar are you not? Judging by your diminished physique and large forehead you are [...]."

[ildu]

Librarians are hiding something.

[voh]

If I ran an airline I would demand at least 10% of every flight to be skimpily dressed women.

And if my stewardesses were banning them from the flight they'd be forced to wear skimpy uniforms until they value skimpiness like I do.

I'd call it LushAir. And it would be magic.

[Radiant]

If I ran an airline I would demand at least 10% of every flight to be skimpily dressed women.

Heh. You could have an employee at the airport with a pair of scissors, to correct people's costumes...

[Stupot]

I'm sorry but what those women are wearing isn't THAT revealing.  Fair enough, the second girl's top has a low cut in it, but it's also a slim cut so you don't get to see much of her breasts.  And the first girl... Ok she's wearing a short skirt... big whoop.  I've seen stewardesses with basically the same length skirt.  If the attendants were really that stuck up about it then they could have at least asked her to move to a window seat where people walking up the aisle cant see.

Poor girls... victims of political correctness gone absolutely bonkers.

If I was on either of their flights Id've taken them to the toilet and signed us up to the mile-high club

[evenwolf]

Tag this as politically incorrect but there's a very high probability the male flight attendant is homosexual.   Would the same incident occur if a guy had been wearing tight, revealing pants?

[Darth Mandarb]

Some interesting points/opinions all around.

Several (dudes) have commented on not minding at all 'cause they like looking at the women dressed like that.

Now don't get me wrong ... I like the female body as much as the next male heterosexual.  But for my money the old saying "less is more" holds true here.  I like wondering what she's hiding under there!  If it's flaunted (as both these woman were doing) it leaves little to wonder about...

If we continue on the trend we're on, with the clothes becoming less and less, eventually there'll be no need for imagination.  And with Hollywood going the way it is, and music ... I don't know.  It seems like imagination is in danger of going extinct!

Two seperate thoughts I suppose.

[MrColossal]

Hypocrisy shows its ugly head.

It's not hypocrisy. You say one company wanted to do Hooter's girls as stewardesses and another company years later has 2 people removed from a plane for arbitrary dress code violations.

If it was the SAME company than sure, hypocrisy, but it isn't so it isn't.

[radiowaves]

Huh, I wouldn't mind if people wear revealing outfit in the same room as me. I also think that people should go out naked more. Whats with these barriers? Sexual tension in the air? Thats because we are not used with nakedness, which we should. There is nothing wrong with being naked, and if you can't stand it, you are just a pervert who can't get past his/hers sexual thoughts.
My testicles want to breathe goddamnit!