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Started by 2ma2, Sun 20/11/2005 13:03:39

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Nikolas

Ok. Fair enough!

But about common sense I will have to disagree a little:

Of course if you overanalyse everything then you do need a definition. But I believe that common sense works better without one.

And speaking of communities, I think that this one is called the AGS community. And from what I've seen in my short time here (I kinda feel like a newbie still...), is that there are certain "rules". It doesn't necessarily mean that the "rules" are correct or not, but CJ decided that he wants them, and furthermore the community itself seems to know what it wants. I do know that no member has ever been kicked out of here but at the same time, the "wrong" post are deleted and people who come from Maryland (don't flame me, hehe), seem to dissapear after a while. Members who decide to stay and give it a try find out what that common sense is all about.

A small example:

This is a thread in the Production Forum:

"I've started a new game", I don't have any screenshots yet but it will be fabulous. It's about a guy who... I need someone to script it, someone to draw it, someone to write music, and a couple of voice-actors. I will be the head of all this"

Now I think that a certain moderator would freak out with this kind of posting. And we've seen posts like this.

There are a lot of things wrong with this kind of thread.
1. Simple: The rules state that you need 2 screenshots.
2. If you need help as in the appropriate thread.
3. But even the simples mind will tell you that this game does not exist at all, and so it shouldn't be in the Production Forum in the first place.

No.3 Could be called common sense.

I think that here we have a community that tries to be tidy and democratic at the same time. This takes guts and is very difficult to accomplish. And furthermore it needs the help of the members and not let only the moderators to do all the job.

Another word for common sense is probably thinking.

My english is a little poor but I hope you understand what I mean.

esper

It seems the general topic has gone far and away, but I had two yen, thirteen drachmas and twenty-nine francs to throw in. I wish my serious postings on a new game or on some other topic that I start as an attempt to draw interesting conversation from the community got as much attention as "I'm growing," "I'm on vacation," "Here's how you mix yogurt with nuts," and, that oldie-but-goodie, "Look, I drew sonic the retard and a Union Jack hooked up to a Tesla coil, what do you think about them?"
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2ma2

Yes, this is a community, and within lies common sense, something derived from the experience of user throughout severeal years. It is not over-analysing; it is mere analysing to seek definitions of things we hold as true. I personally loathe the usage of the word "over-analysing" since it implies that questions are driven further than they should. Why? What is feared?

Yes, this forum have rules, but what I questioned was not the rules but the interpretation of said. Since the rules of the Gen-Gen define value as well thought, interesting and/or helpful - Ã, completely subjective terms defined by common sense - the actual value of started threads are non-existant until someone read and judge it [worthy to reply].

About your example: Common sense does not state that that game does not exist because quite frankly, when do games start to exist while in production? During the pre-production stage? When the plot is thought out? This thread is not suitable based on the 1:st fault, namely that 2 screenshots are required. This is an objective rule and thus easy to follow and maintain.

By all means, common sense is when you stop thinking and go by autopilot.

Nikolas

Quote from: 2ma2 on Thu 24/11/2005 10:26:52
By all means, common sense is when you stop thinking and go by autopilot.
Hmmm, you might be right here!

About overanalysing: I've seen so much of it that I'm sick of analysing everything. And frankly there is a lot of analysing going on in Uk (IMHO), and I think that it's enough. I have the impressiopn that things are worst in the States but I'm not sure really. I was trying to get out of analysing what common sense is (thus leaving it without definition).

Anyway, this is a hard call but I have placed my trust on the moderators before and I will do it again. From what I've seen they do a very good job.

And for the record, my first post was a post saying "Hi! I'm a compser does anybody need me?" It was locked, but not before Barbarian (and sorry to name you again, it's just a story though), welcomed me in such a good manner that I thought to myself that this place is great. Never the less the thread was locked.

I consider myself and many others here (regardless of age, cause in my list there is a 13 year old goose), mature enough to point anyone in the right direction. IMO of course, which might be wrong, but if I start thinking like this, I'll go mad. And I expect as I welcomed myself the locking of my first thread, cause it...well, made sense, that the others do the same. And most of them do.

But we are getting away from the topic as we keep on talking, my next answer if you care to continue will be through PM. I think it's better...

On the topic: The final judges are us, the members. If a thread (although wrong, by definition) stays unlocked for long enough, there are chances that th thread will automatically turn into somothing interesting. Why? Because this community holds some interesting people inside.

Note: I'm optimistic kinda guy! ;D

2ma2

Yes, well topics are impossble to keep. But I think we've reached the unevitable agreement on disagreement :=

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