Video shows beheaded of American in Iraq. Not for the weak of heart.

[Meowster]

http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=iraq

I feel so bad for that poor guy. I didn't even realize what was about to happen to him when I looked at that picture.

I just went to view the video excerpt but I couldn't.

I really wish people could just forget their religions and their politics and their oil and their grudges, and just get on. I mean, when it comes down to it, we're all people. We're not black people, white people, chinese people. We're not muslims, islamics, christians, athiests. We're people, and we're only those things because we've been brought up to believe we were.

Why do people keep doing this to each other?

So sad.

[333]

We should steal all Iraqs oil and kill them all. Who gives a crap about them, they are like violent dogs.
Game plan steal oil, kill people leave. Sounds good to me.

[Meowster]

A lot of people would agree with you.

Especially those stinkin' Republicans!!!

(If you ever read Yahoo! News Forums, you too will find the previous statement funny!)

[Robert Eric]

Again, what good would it do to kill them?Ã,  Should we kill people to try to stop other people from killing each other?Ã,  If we kill them, justified or not, we are also killers.

[Nacho]

Both parts are making atrocities, I must say that this is the worst social-political period (11-S 2002-nowadays) I can remember.

I hope this ends soon...Ã, 

And death idiot... control your anger... I know it's difficult, but you'll feel better (I told you by my own experience)

[Meowster]

I must say, I would rather a world full of Americans than a world full of Iraqis.

I heard a lot of people are extremely shocked at the American treatment of Iraq POWs.  I was surprised when I read that Human Rights groups were outraged that the higher members of Saddams regime, who had been involved in a lot of murder and such during his reign, were kept in solitary confinement longer than other POWs.

Firstly, I'm quite glad that these higher members of Saddams regime are being treated worse. It makes sense to me.

Second, it's a war. What do you expect? It's certainly not nice, and it's not something I would do or like to see other people do. But it's a war, and nobody ever said wars were full of hugs and kisses and love. It didn't surprise me to see these pictures. I didn't like them, but it didn't surprise me.

I also don't see or hear of American soldiers killing young Iraq civilians.

Then again, perhaps that was a breakaway group of rebels or something, and just as the Americans that tortured Iraqi POWs don't represent the face of the American Army, those Iraqi murderers were individuals who don't represent the face of Iraq. I don't know, and I can't tell because no matter where you look, all you'll find is propaganda

I don't think I'm in a position to judge any side, because I live in safe, neutral little Ireland, far from all of this trouble. But I admit openly that I tend to be extremely unsympathetic of Iraqi men. Perhaps this is because I'm female, and I dislike the way they treat Iraqi women. I don't know.

Come to think of it, that's something that's always pissed me off. When you discuss with people the way women are treated in these countries, and they say, "Oh, but you have to understand, that's their way of life." As though that makes it alright for them to treat women like that. That's the way they do things, ergo that makes it right. What?

I am so mixed up right now.

[Dart]

In the wise words of System of a Down....

"Modern globalization
Coupled with condemnations
Unnecessary death
Matador corporations
Puppeting your frustrations with a blinded flag
Manufacturing consent is the name of the game
The bottom line is money and nobody gives a f**k

4,000 hungry children leave us per hour from starvation
While billions are spent on bombs
Creating death showers "

That just about says it all about this trivial war and the belligerent fools who started it.

Also:

"Make love, not war."

[Ryam BaCo]

We are German, we are French, Italian, American, Russian and many other nationalities. We are Christians, Jews, Moslems and Hindus. We are black, we are white; we are a communtity of so many differences, so complex but yet so simple. We do not need to have wars!

Michael Jackson, 2002

the world is sick.

[Barcik]

Surprsingly enough, I have to say that this isn't much different from what the Americans did to the Iraqis, and thus, as shocking as it is, it is hypocrisy to call it sub-human.

Unlike what those fucking Hammas dogs did to the remains of six Israeli soldiers today. Fucking sub-human apes. I hope there's already a rocket with their name on it.

[Meowster]

I don't actually know any Iraqi men personally, and that what I have heard about them is probably mostly propaganda, and that if I met an Iraqi person I would probably find them to be completely nice and lovely.

Therefore, I cannot say I hate Iraqi people; I hate the Iraqi way of life.

But I was hating it way before the war. All those Republicans are just jumping on the goddamn bandwagon!!! I also hate the Saudi Arabian way of life.

And the Palestinian way of life.

And Michael Jackson! Because he contradicted everything I said in my first post!!!

And Ryam Baco's way of life.

[Ryam BaCo]

using violence against violence will never work. people will never understand that, because they're all much too dumb and selfish.

[Barcik]

Nor will hugging those who use violence, but people will never understand that, because they're all much too dumb and blind.

The ultimate dillema, eh? The truth is, both solutions are bad. I just seem to believe mine is the lesser evil.

[Nacho]

(EDIT: this post was originally aimed to Rusalka Clarke, before the flooding  )

You're right, it's a war and this things happen in wars...

but never such a savage war has been so covered by media... There have been more savage wars? Sure, I remember a man proudly showing a cut head in Liberia... In the old Yugoslavia things like that happened... And we could go on, Côte D'Ivory, Nigeria, Somalia, Filipinas, Colombia...

I don't know if it's good that we just "care" of this US-Iraqi war... Maybe it's going to be a good start for being more sensitive about wars...

But I must say (even falling in risk of being flamed) thanks for your honesty for saying "I am a woman, and must make an effort for feeling empathy for the iraqians"

I've recently discussed with girls blaming America, not just Bush or the DISGUSTING activities of some of their members, but the whole country saying things like "It's an fascist country full of nazis" and things like that... the worst of all is that this girls "imagine" that this islamic countries are something like a "heaven"...

It is time to put things in place... ladies, America is a better place to life for you than Nigeria, Somalia, Afghanistan or Iran... America is a democratic place were if a moronic president is elected, he is dumped in the next voting... If some bastards treat the POWs badly, the media discovers it and the problem is soluted... Of course it's not perfect, but it's time to make a sensible critic of it and not some zealotish things I am seeing lately...

[333]

If we kill everyone of the Iraquis, the iraquis cannot kill us.
Gearge Bush is a retard, If you waste lives going into Iraq then when you are in there do something productive, like kill people, steal stuff. Both the canidates for president are monkeys that poop their pants, I hate both of them. I hate all Iraquis, most americans,and most hippies. Well I don't hate hippies, cause I do not know what they did to me.

[Meowster]

But using violence against those who hug will work fine.

Which is why hugging isn't an option.

I just thought of an example in an MSN conversation I'm having.

Every society has a group of insane bastards. Even the most 'sane' of societies.

The Irish Sinn Feiners/Republicans
The Spanish ETA
The American Fundamentalist Christians
Pretty much every Fundamentalist Group in Existence

What we're seeing in the news is a group of fundamentalist islamics that a lot of people believe represent all of Iraq. Perhaps they do. Perhaps they don't. At the moment, with all the propaganda flying all over the place, it's hard to tell. But I don't think they do.

Although I still don't like the Iraqi way of life.

[LGM]

I'm with Farlander on this one.

We've had savage wars before. Vietnam, WWII, etc. Hell, in Vietnam soldiers would rape and pillage innocent villages just cause they were vietnamese..

This shit happens in every war.

War=Death. Ergo, entering a war=entering death. You go into war or declare it, you might as well face that there is going to be death. Any kind of death. Accidental, intentional, and sadistic. Fact of life. We're humans. We have emotions. Sometimes they make you do crazy things, even non-human things.

again, this has happened in thousands of wars. The only reason THIS is such a big deal, is because of the fucking media corporations making "breaking news" reports every time an iraqi shits in a hole.

I could go on, but I think you get my point.

[Meowster]

I hate all Iraquis, most americans,and most hippies. Well I don't hate hippies, cause I do not know what they did to me

Ha ha ha.

[InCreator]

I must say, I would rather a world full of Americans than a world full of Iraqis.
Oh jesus. Right. Let's choose between stupid and stupid.
Either way, we have chosen "stupid".

Revenge, somehow, can be always explained better than the reason that led to it. Yet, cutting off heads cannot be explained in any way. If we'd take off name tags, such as "Americans" and "Israelis", opinions would be more fair, I guess. One family decides that another family's father is a bad man. Whole family takes guns and goes to other family's yard to kill him and ransack the house. And they're damn surprised when other family fights back.

What the hell are Americans doing in Iraq, anyway? They live at the other side of the globe! Want to help? Send food and first aid! Fund schools! hospitals!
Donate stuff.

"I do not like Iraqi lifestyle, so let's go and kill some of them and show the light through darkness"
What's this? A crusade?

If they had problems with one particular bad man, what are intelligence and secret service people for? Taking someone out without bombarding whole cities cannot be that difficult. Especially for such rich country. And it comes cheaper. And if it was not about one man, game is fair.
Just... why are people playing so deadly games?

Damn, if I could, I'd pack my bags and take off to another solar system. No sense in this universe.

[Matt Brown]

It makes me very sad to hear about whats happening to my countrymen, and your countrymen, in Iraq. Who's so sick to film a beheading? good god, he has a family! I cant click that link...it'll kill me. this tourture sickens my soul

which is partyl why when I hear of the american tourturing, I feel even more sick. I hear these stories all the time, but they happen with other countries, and we shake our heads and go "tisk tisk...good thing America doesnt do that! we;re the  good guys!" and here we go.

I think, more often then not, the USA is the good guys

there is nothing good about tourture. be it a few people, or more.

these people are not americans. or at least not part in my america. In Panda's American, I dont care who you goddamn are. you're still a human. Iraqi, Brazilian, American...you're a human, and are treated as such. There's a difference between a 4 star hotel, and getting freaking food and clothes.

[LGM]

If there's no sense in this universe, than another solar system won't solve your problem. :-p

But you hold some good points. We didn't have to bombard Iraq with all our troops.. But good ol' Bush, the Texan he is, likes to do everything big and grand. The American Way! Sometimes I'm ashamed to be an American.

But then again, America is better off than alot of countries. And I'm happy I'm here and not in some third world country.