Your thoughts on A.I. art creation

[LimpingFish]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/stellaris-director-insists-ethical-use-of-ai-is-very-important-to-us-after-generating-voices-in-latest-dlc

Ah, yes. Ethics, the cornerstone of capitalism.

[Danvzare]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/stellaris-director-insists-ethical-use-of-ai-is-very-important-to-us-after-generating-voices-in-latest-dlc

Ah, yes. Ethics, the cornerstone of capitalism.

The question is, which type of ethics are they referring to?
Virtue ethics perhaps? Maybe they're a huge believer of Kant's works? What about Deontology?
Personally I subscribe to egoism.
You can't just say you're trying to be ethical and not define what being ethical even means.

My best guess though is that like you suspect, they're simply lying. Marketing has obviously said that this buzz word will increase share prices by a certain percentage.

[LimpingFish]

https://boingboing.net/2024/05/20/scarlett-johansson-denied-openai-the-right-to-use-her-voice-for-chatgpt-they-used-it-anyway.html

Ah, yes. Thievery, the cornerstone of AI.

[cat]

I think it is really funny, that instead of stock photos, you can now buy AI prompts.

[Snarky]

Saw this on Bluesky (it's like Twitter but not awful) 

[cat]

If you continue reading the comments below, this is were the information comes from:
https://uwalumni.com/news/presidential-badgers/

[LimpingFish]

https://boingboing.net/2024/05/24/googles-ai-enhanced-search-suggests-users-add-glue-to-their-pizza-and-eat-one-small-rock-a-day.html

Ah, yes. Madness, the...etc, etc...

[Creamy]

I find AI text generators not quoting their sources very annoying.
They should put footnotes like students in their essays or contributors on Wikipedia.

I've tried Haiper AI video generator recently to animate pictures. The results are interesting but highly unreliable.
The AI seems to recognize elements in the frame (character, limbs...) and can render some surprising 3d effects but it's not good at keeping track of things when it tries more complex animations. Also, it's quite prone to changing your style in the case of drawings.
Still, an impressive feat.

[fred]

I think GenAI is interesting, and I've joined both the FRVR AI Game Creator public beta and the one at Rosebud AI. Both are game creation tools where you prompt for both code, sfx, music, and graphical assets, that you can then modify and mix into your own game. Although it can be frustrating that the AI doesn't always generate exactly what you need, it still feels like an overall stream-lining of the whole game creation process. I've made 14 or so little games over the past few months, whereas working with AGS (or Adobe Animate/Flash or html5 for that matter) that would usually take much longer, but of course also result in more polished games. But the tools are still fun to work with, even if it requires a more relaxed way of thinking about games.

You can try some of my games here, if you're interested: https://beta.frvr.ai/@cspark#created

Most of them are just small hypercasual experiments, but this one, for example, won 1st prize in one of their creator contests:
https://beta.frvr.ai/@cspark/play/BlX8fkcN49

You can also sign up for the betas and try the tools for yourself.

[FortressCaulfield]

I admit it, I caved into the darkside.

I needed a texture for a "plasma pond" for a small part of a background and I just couldn't manage to produce it myself. DA's artbot got me exactly what I wanted in one try, AND I was able to tell it to produce similar images which I could then use to create an animation effect as if the plasma was undulating.

So I guess my point being it can be a useful tool under the right circumstances, and it is unfortunate the originators of this tech had to poison the well by launching it with a plaque of theft. But in most situations my vision for what I want is too specific for AI to be able to give me a useable entire background image, let alone a script or anything else, for instance.

[LimpingFish]

I can't believe that James Cameron signed off on these (though, as highlighted in the video, he really didn't seem to give a shit) but it's proof that "cheaper" trumps "better" every time, when AI is involved.

[Danvzare]

I can't believe that James Cameron signed off on these (though, as highlighted in the video, he really didn't seem to give a shit) but it's proof that "cheaper" trumps "better" every time, when AI is involved.

Considering how he butchered the colour-grading in Blade Runner The Final Cut, I'm honestly not surprised.
The guy seems to have no appreciation for the benefits of analog or traditional filmmaking. With modern digital tech always being superior in his eyes. 

[Retro Wolf]

What's James Cameron got to do with Blade Runner? You mean Ridley Scott?

[Danvzare]

What's James Cameron got to do with Blade Runner? You mean Ridley Scott?

Doh!

You're absolutely right.
For some stupid reason I got it in my head that they were somehow the same person. 
Probably because I saw Alien in the thumbnail and Ridley Scott directed it.

But yeah, I meant Ridley Scott.
Did Ridley work on these remasters at all by any chance, or was it all James Cameron I wonder? 

[LimpingFish]

https://boingboing.net/2024/07/11/ai-tool-generates-fake-painting-timelapses-lets-cat-out-of-bag.html

Nothing to see here! No sir!

[Danvzare]

https://boingboing.net/2024/07/11/ai-tool-generates-fake-painting-timelapses-lets-cat-out-of-bag.html

Nothing to see here! No sir!

It was only a matter of time before they figured out how to do timelapses.
Now the only way you can prove you're a real artist is by showing your layers. Because I highly doubt an AI is going to be able to generate an entire .PSD file with a bunch of poorly labeled layers any time soon.

[lapsking]

And this AI "art" is the latest nail in the coffin, on which they are dedicatedly busy banging. An "art" that is made by Artificial Intelligence is artificial, obviously. Sorry if I sound like a 19th century moron.

[Danvzare]

And this AI "art" is the latest nail in the coffin, on which they are dedicatedly busy banging. An "art" that is made by Artificial Intelligence is artificial, obviously. Sorry if I sound like a 19th century moron.

The problem is, most people consider art to be a synonym for image. So if something can make an image, by their own personal definition, it can make art.

It's a good idea to never get into an argument about the definition of words. I've seen people argue about the difference between a garden and a yard, and I've seen people argue about how spinoffs can't be canon because they're not mainline entries. They're always arguments that no one ever wins (I should know, I've been in a few of them).

Instead just remember that when people say "Art" in relation to AI, they don't mean the same kind of art as you would mean. Instead, those people mean "Art" as in same way I would personally define "Content".

[lapsking]

Yes, argument is idiotic but nothing wrong with discussion, I suppose.

 Well, if you want an original content/art it is hard to trust AI. I mean, The Day of The Tentacle graphics are original and has a human spirit in them. If one is only looking for graphics which is only "beautiful", but not necessarily original, AI content can help. But The Day of Tentacle has an original style which remains consistent through the whole game. I'm not angry at AI "art"/content. Once humans were competing to make more realistic art, but with the invention of camera there was no need for that competition anymore, which is a relief. AI also made another competition meaningless. If you are not looking for an original style you don't need to worry about the labor, AI will do it for you. I think it's actually a good filter to let artists more focus on the spirit of visual arts.

[LimpingFish]

(Warning for...ooer...saucy language.)

Sums up the situation rather eloquently.