Equilibrum

Started by hamish20, Sat 03/04/2004 13:13:07

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shax

absolutely one of the best games i have played and definetly THE best i have played for a long time.

very very highly recommended.

a big thank you to judas who like the other game developers churn out free games for us to enjoy.

just finished the game. thanx maggie. i played with roz througout the tunnels and had no probs. no crashing etc. BUT! when i got into liberia instead of going to the palace i decided to go south and explore. at that point it crashed so be careful.

and to al those who are still stuck and not finished the game

YAAAA! BOOOOOOO! IM BETTER THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Potch

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I'm obviously more retarded than the rest of you, because I can't seem to find much of anything.  I've got
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Fish, Cloth, bottle of water, the dog is following me, and I've talked to the guy sitting on the trash can
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and I can't seem to find anything else!  Someone please help!!!
The hardest thing in this world... is to live in it. (Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy Summers in "The Gift")

Oneiro_Farseer

I think it could just be a case of exploring the place more thoroughly.  ;)
Have you
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met the resistance group? If not, go as far left as you can. The screen above the one with the telephone has an exit to the left (off the roads).
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JudasFm

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Quote from: shax on Wed 07/04/2004 13:47:06
absolutely one of the best games i have played and definetly THE best i have played for a long time.

very very highly recommended.

a big thank you to judas who like the other game developers churn out free games for us to enjoy.

just finished the game. thanx maggie. i played with roz througout the tunnels and had no probs. no crashing etc. BUT! when i got into liberia instead of going to the palace i decided to go south and explore. at that point it crashed so be careful.

*big smile* Thanks Shax; it's always great to know my work is  appreciated.  The sequel is on its way...I'm not sure how long it'll take.  It's been put on hold until after Easter 'cause hopefully I'm getting WorldBuilder Pro for my Easter prezzie...fingers crossed I can really crank out some nifty backgrounds 8)

Potch

Thanks!  LIke I said... I'm retarded!  :-)  I didn't realize I could walk over there.  SHows how observant I am... jeez.
The hardest thing in this world... is to live in it. (Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy Summers in "The Gift")

Nostradamus

Hey Ida got hints and my question got totally ignored!

Here's the question again:
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I'm supposed to dig up rubble with the shovel but it doesn't do it to the rubble in the northeast becasue it ain't worth it cos there's only a wall behind it. So where's the rubble I'm supposed to dig up?
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P.S. Why don't you just release a walkthrough?  A lot of people get stuck in this game, at least it will make it easier for you



Oneiro_Farseer

Go to the screen to the right of the one with the phone in it, then go down. It should be obvious which one to pick!  ;)

JudasFm

Quote from: Nostradamus on Thu 08/04/2004 08:06:47
Hey Ida got hints and my question got totally ignored!

Not true; reread some previous posts-I gave you hints as well :P

Quote from: Nostradamus on Thu 08/04/2004 08:06:47P.S. Why don't you just release a walkthrough?  A lot of people get stuck in this game, at least it will make it easier for you

I know, but then it would make it too easy ;) Besides, I love working out hints :P I'm thinking of making a website with games I do; maybe if I do I'll put one on there.

hamish20

QuoteI'm not sure what it is, to tell the truth. I had it once or twice in testing; sometimes it did it and sometimes it didn't, and nothing I did seemed to make the slightest bit of difference. There's no MoveCharacter command at all in that room (or on line 55 of the script) and I was never able to work out what caused it. If you save the game just before exiting the tunnels and keep going back, you should get through, but it might take a few gos.

After about 20 tries, i still cant get through the tunnel without the error command coming up at the end. and as for the person who says it is easier to go through the tunnels as Rosaline, that is not true because the error comes up in the first tunnel room. IS there nothing that can be done about it?

JudasFm

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What do you mean by the first tunnel room?  As far as I know (in testing and in replies by other people) it only occurs when you try to LEAVE the tunnels.  As for playing through as Rosaline not working, well, that's very strange; once I passed that tip on to other people who had the same problems, it sorted it out just fine for them.  That doesn't necessarily mean you won't get the message; it just means you're far less likely to.

hamish20

I meant that when i play as Rosaline i can go through the first tunnel screen but then Rosaline doesnt show and it says the message then.

I have tried so many times and it keeps saying it!!!

Potch

Cool game!  I just finished it, and it was really fun.  I was a little lost, because I haven't yet seen the movie, so I didn't really understand some of it.  I do plan on watching the movie though. :-)

Do you mind if I make a few suggestions?  I don't want to step on any toes.  Lord knows I would never be creative enough to write a game, so I suppose I'm not one to suggest anything... but here goes anyway.... First off, maybe include a read me file with little blurb about the plot, for people that haven't seen the movie.   Explain what the Dose is, and clerics and things like that.

There was one thing that was REALLY annoying for me.  Now, it may have just been my slow computer (see I played it at work, because I'm a slacker...  and the computers they give us here are pieces of CRAP)  but anyway...  Rosemary walked really slow.  It took forever to go from screen to screen, so especially on the parts of the game where you had to go from the underground to the resistance building and back again... oh my god, I was ready to rip my hair out!  And that's partly because I have no patience.  So maybe when you do the sequel (which I am anxiously awaiting by the way. :-) ) you could have a map screen to go directly to another location, instead of having to go from screen to screen.  Either that, or make it so we don't have to go so far between locations, or not have to go back to a far away location.   And like I said, it may have just been my piece of crap computer. :-)

Anyway, great game.  I hope I didn't make anybody mad with my comments.   I really admire those of you who make these games, because I certaintly couldn't do it!  
The hardest thing in this world... is to live in it. (Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy Summers in "The Gift")

JudasFm

Hi Potch!  No, I don't mind; suggestions are always welcome ;D Let's see...

I did actually write a document to go along with this game explaining one or two things (basically in the form of a diary of one of the characters) but this wasn't included in the final version, mostly because it would give too much of the plot/story away.  I might well put something like it in the sequel...though please bear in mind that Out of Time was written for the Equilibrium fans and their website first, and AGS second :P I do still have that document though, so maybe in the future...

Rosaline's walking pace (I don't know why everyone keeps calling her Rosemary LOL!)...yep, there was a lot of walking between scenes.  I know how you felt; during the final testing that was without debug mode I was almost ready to throw something :P The sequel will certainly have a map kind of thing; also, (hopefully) thanks to Worldbuilder and Poser, the graphics and animations will be far more superior.  And there won't be so much walking between scenes unless you want to...right now the plan is that Rosaline's going to have some kind of map you can use from anywhere to go to anywhere.  There'll still be a fair amount of walking involved but not as much as in this one.  On that subject, though, I didn't feel Rosaline's animation was particularly slow...like you said, maybe it's your computer, or maybe I just got used to it ;) If I can figure out how, she might be able to run in the next one (kind of like in Longest Journey; the player single clicks to walk, double clicks to run).  Sequel screenshots on the way soon ;D

porchbeast

really DUMB question. i've saved my game every way i know how, but when i exit and go back, it's never there what am i doing wrong? also do not use the cassette player on rosaline in the sleeping room ( dont't know about anywhere else ) as all my inventory was erased

jane

Think I've gone wrong somewhere............
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got to palace and used gun on fax machine but I then get a funny ending.  After reading previous comments I think I should have a crowbar - where will I find that and I haven't used cassette or fish????
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JudasFm

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Quote from: jane on Wed 14/04/2004 22:02:34
Think I've gone wrong somewhere............
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got to palace and used gun on fax machine but I then get a funny ending.  After reading previous comments I think I should have a crowbar - where will I find that and I haven't used cassette or fish????
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What do you mean a funny ending?  Using the cassette and fish and getting the crowbar are all sort of extras;
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if you're already in the Palace of Justice it's too late to use the cassette, same goes for the crowbar (which is in the tunnel system)
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Porchbeast, I'm not sure about your post.  The only thing I can think of with the save games is that perhaps you don't have enough memory on your system?  Also, using the cassette recorder on Roz...I don't know what happened there, it wasn't something I wrote in ??? Still, thanks for the tipoff :)

jane

Sorry about 'funny ending' comments...................but I I get knocked on head.................the end appears and then restore button pops up..............so a bit surprised at how the game ended and whether I had completed it right?  :-\

JudasFm

Quote from: jane on Thu 15/04/2004 11:17:13
Sorry about 'funny ending' comments...................but I I get knocked on head.................the end appears and then restore button pops up..............so a bit surprised at how the game ended and whether I had completed it right?  :-\

LOL Okay, I can see a lot of people coming back to me with the same comment so I think I'll clear it up right here and now :P

Yes, the ending is a little...abrupt.  It's supposed to be.  If you see The End appear, you've done it right; it won't appear on any of the death screens.

Please keep one thing in mind; this game is the first in a trilogy, so it's supposed to leave a whole lot of loose ends to be tied up ;) After all, if it all came right in the end, there would be no sequel potential ;)

cece

Any hints as to what to do with the cassette??? Am I supposed to record a message? Who's? And I used the crowbar on the lid, but what good soes entering the tunnels there do? Thanks!


Quote from: jane on Wed 14/04/2004 22:02:34
Think I've gone wrong somewhere............
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got to palace and used gun on fax machine but I then get a funny ending.  After reading previous comments I think I should have a crowbar - where will I find that and I haven't used cassette or fish????
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momo

I played through this game just cause I like the movie, and I have to say that the game, though enjoyable for a while, sucked.

A lot of what goes on makes no sense. Like when I exited the tunnels the first time, and the cleric tells me that everybody has escaped, how come those sleeping people are still in there, sleeping soundly as if no attack occurred? And that other girl (Jo?) was still in the canteen. And as I was going out, Sue wasn't there, so I tried taking the ball for the heck of it, and what do I get? The usual. Sue telling me not to take he ball because of the dog yada yada yada. What, she's invisible now? And more still. I head back to the headquarters, and have the same Luke-dying sequence, again.
And how most of the time, the game lacks any sense of direction or objective, and that all the people aren't that helpful enough and once you talk to them once and deplete all the discussion paths, you can't have the same conversations again. Oh, and the ability to get items more than once, like the bone, and guns and pass.

Not to add the bugs, like the ones in the tunnels, or the disappearing inventory if you use the red card on yourself for example.

Word of advice: If you're planning to make more games, please pay more attention to the details & all potential scenarios to be taken by players. And have some bunch of decent playtesters test the game fro you.

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