King's Quest 3

[Fizzii]

Have you also got the right utensils to cast the spell properly? (eg, spoon, jar, bowl, etc, depending on what you are casting)

[paolo]

Yes, I've got everything except for one item for one spell, and I'm not trying to cast that one. Perhaps I need to be carrying just the items I need for the particular spell I am casting - is that the case? I'm going to try that.

[Fizzii]

Perhaps I need to be carrying just the items I need for the particular spell I am casting - is that the case? I'm going to try that.

No, you shouldn't need to do that. Have you gotten the second release of the game (that is, the bugfixed version that was released with the voicepack?) Also, which spell are you trying to cast, and what inventory items do you have just before you cast that spell?

[paolo]

Thanks for looking into this, Fizzii.

So, I have:

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From kitchen: bowl, knife, fruit, meat (I ate the bread for some reason);
Items for spell: cat fur, dog fur, snake skin, fish powder, thimble of dew, feather, fly's wings, salt, rose-petal essence, mistletoe, nightshade juice, acorns, pouch, mandrake root powder, fishy-smelling stuff in jar, porridge, cup of ocean water, spoon of swamp mud, toadstool powder, saffron, toad spittle, lard, piece of cactus.
Also: key, wand, mirror, four gold coins, magic map.

In short, everything needed for the spells except for the stone.

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At the moment, Manannan is sleeping.

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I go down to the dungeon and interact at the book. I have all the above items with me. For example, if I click "cast" on the "understanding the language of animals" spell, for which I need the feather, bowl, dog fur, snake skin, fish bone. Gwydion says "Oh no!" and grows huge ears and his head turns to blood. "You're all ears now, Gwydion!" says the game, and that's the end.

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The game executable is timestampted 20 August 2006. I downloaded it this week or last week, and there is a music.vox file in the directory. There doesn't seem to be a voice pack though as I don't hear text spoken.

Thanks.

[sthomannch]

Another necessary tool, not an ingredient is

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the wand. did you get it from the cabinet in the office? Also, when you are finished with your spells or some of them, put the wand back into the cabinet. And close the trap door.

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[paolo]

Yes, I have that.

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I would put everything back when I have finished if I weren't dying, but I don't get a chance...

Perhaps the wand shouldn't go under the bed?

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[sthomannch]

paolo

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I think I put the wand back into the cabinet. Also, I waited until Manannan went to town, which gives about 25 minutes time to fetch necessery items and prepare the spells.

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[thewalrus]

paolo:

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Yes, the wand must be placed back in the cabinet, not under the bed.

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[Fizzii]

Items for spell: cat fur, dog fur, snake skin, fish powder, thimble of dew, FEATHER, fly's wings, salt, rose-petal essence, mistletoe, nightshade juice, acorns, pouch, mandrake root powder, fishy-smelling stuff in jar, porridge, cup of ocean water, spoon of swamp mud, toadstool powder, saffron, toad spittle, lard, piece of cactus.

Is that the eagle feather? The game says a small feather so you'd need

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a chicken feather

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[paolo]

OK, that makes sense.

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However I can't even put the saffron in the essence: it says "You can't do that now." I tried it in the dungeon and outside the house. Presumably I need to be somewhere in particular to do that.

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Also

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how do I get the chicken feather? The chickens run away if I try to catch them, even when they are eating.

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For the storm spell, I need to put the cup of water in the bowl, but again, it says that I can't do that (in the dungeon). If I cast the spell, it starts to rain in the dungeon and I'm killed by lightning.

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So I still don't get when and where I can cast the spells. This is very frustrating.

[Jon]

Hello

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How do I get a magic wand?

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[Fizzii]

paolo - You cast the spell by looking at the spellbook in the lab, then clicking cast on the spell you want, and whether you have the right components or not, you will either get the spell or die. You can't actually manually combine ingredients like in kq6, which I think was a pity, but other people like it like this.

About the feather -

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try walking nearer to them while they eat. Keep trying and it should work.

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With storm brew -

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You need an empty jar. You can only get an empty jar after casting the becoming invisible spell. And I hope you've got swamp mud on the spoon

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Jon -

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You can find it locked up in the wizard's cabinet. You'll need to find a key

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[Jon]

Jon -

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You can find it locked up in the wizard's cabinet. You'll need to find a key

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Ah, I see thanks Fizzii


EDIT: Now I'm stuck at another place

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When I cast the 'Fly like a fly' spell, it wont let me cast it anywhere, and I have tried every room!

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[paolo]

Fizzii

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Thanks very much. As I am always dying, it must be then that I don't have the right ingredients and equipment. For example, the spoon contains mud, but it needs to contain fish oil to make the cat spell.

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Jon

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I'm only guessing, because I haven't got that far, but when you say "room" do you mean rooms in the house or rooms in the game? I would imagine that you could only cast a flying spell outdoors.

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[Jon]

Jon

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I'm only guessing, because I haven't got that far, but when you say "room" do you mean rooms in the house or rooms in the game? I would imagine that you could only cast a flying spell outdoors.

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No I have tried every 'Room' indoors and out and I can't seem to cast the spell.

[Fizzii]

Quote from: paolo on Today at 00:25
Jon
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I'm only guessing, because I haven't got that far, but when you say "room" do you mean rooms in the house or rooms in the game? I would imagine that you could only cast a flying spell outdoors.

No I have tried every 'Room' indoors and out and I can't seem to cast the spell.

Yes, it's only possible to use that spell in specific places, namely

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outside the tavern

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and somewhat later on

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to avoid a yeti

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[Jon]

Ah, well I'm right at the beggining, and that is the only spell I can make!

Any hint on what I should do next?

[Fizzii]

Ah, well I'm right at the beggining, and that is the only spell I can make!

Any hint on what I should do next?

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If the wizard has gone, you have around 30 minutes to explore the countryside and obtain ingredients for the other spells. But you have to be back at the house before then, and everything useful for magic must be hidden away and the wand must be returned to its original place. One of the spells is particularly useful for getting rid of Manannan.

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[Jon]

You say countryside, but,

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How do I get past the rock?

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[thewalrus]

     

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What rock are you talking about? The one guarded by the big spider? (I can't think of any other rock) If it is the one with the spider, you need to use one of your spells.

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