Trance-Pacific

Started by paolo, Sun 23/09/2007 21:11:14

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paolo

Thanks wyls. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Please read the first posting in this thread to see how to post spoilers.

CosmoQueen

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The captain has fallen down, what do I do now?
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KPop and AGS....................that is my life.

paolo

#22
CosmoQueen

Hint 1:
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Think about it - what is it Vince and the others want to do?
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Hint 2:
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Who is the head of the operation?
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Hint 3:
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Vince and the others want to stop the oil-smuggling operation. How could Vince do that?
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Hint 4:
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The bartender can't see what Vince is doing now.
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Those should be enough to suggest what you need to do next, I think.

EDIT: I see you had already finished the game before I posted these hints, but I'll leave them here in case someone else needs them.

Nostradamus

Help please:
I got the pen and it  seems like it's all I can do. I have used and talked to the door. I used everything in the screen. I tryed using the pen on everything. Talked to the 2 friends again. Tryed using the Memo on them and both doors. Nothing. What's my next move?
Please give a full direct answer, not hints.



paolo

#24
Please use spoiler tags.

OK, but some hints first. There are two things you need to do.

Hint 1:
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Who are you there to see?
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Hint 2:
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Maybe you should see if the person who are there to see is in.
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Solution:
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Knock on the captain's door (bottom right of the screen).
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If you've already done that, then:

Hint 1:
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Talk to the steward outside the door over and over again, until you get no further response.
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Hint 2:
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Talk to Nick and Eve again - their hints change as you progress through the game.
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Hint 3:
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How can you persuade the steward to let you out?
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Solution:
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Use the Memo on him through the door.
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Nostradamus

paolo, this IS the hints & tips forum, so hiding the questions is pretty ridiculous. Besides I didn't really spoil anything. It amazes me how you insisted on puttings up hints, even though I asked for a direct answer.
And worse of all, you didn't even read my question well, cause I wrote that I already did what you said!  I tryed knocking on the door and using the memo on it and it did,'t work!



paolo

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OK, Nostradamus, a few things...

Yes, you're right, this is the hints and tips forum. However, people looking through this thread don't want to see hints for parts of the game they have not yet reached. That is what spoiler tags are for - they show consideration to other users who are not as far through the game as you might be, even if where you are is pretty much near the start of the game.

I mentioned at the beginning of the thread that I would prefer it if people didn't post solutions. This is the hints and tips forum, not the solutions and walkthroughs forum. Furthermore, someone stuck in the same place as you might prefer a hint as opposed to the solution, hence I posted both. You can always ignore the hints and go straight to the solution.

I did indeed read your question, but there are two doors in the room. You say you have "used and talked to the door", but you didn't say which.

Finally, I think it is rather impolite to ask for help and then to criticise the person who goes to the trouble to give it to you because they didn't do it in the way you wanted and what they said didn't help you. Maybe someone else would like to help you instead.

All I can suggest is that you try something else. There has to be something you haven't yet tried.

Indie Boy

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Ok Im stuck with the bartender at the door. I was able to block his device, but now I can't seem to be able to do anything apart from hearing his plan over and over again.

Ps well done on winning MAGS and I find this entry the most enjoyable so it would of got my vote anyways. 

Any help?
I won't use this login.
Try IndieBoy instead

Nostradamus

Yes I did say I tryed both doors:

Quote from: Nostradamus on Sun 30/09/2007 19:49:53
. Tryed using the Memo on them and both doors. Nothing. What's my next move?
Please give a full direct answer, not hints.

Now I understand what you think about spoilers and yes the answers should always be hidden but seriously I basically has done nothing yet in the room, my question didn't spoil anything. And if other people see a question that has already been posted and answered it would prevent them from asking the same question again. But if the question is hidden people will probably not go marking all the spoilers to read the questions. OK, I understand that you also posted hints for other people but me and that is justified. But you can't decide for people to not receive direct answers or solutions if they want to. If I like to get a full direct answer when I gets stuck, not hints, and then go on exploring things myself, that's my right and you can't tell me how to play when stuck. I don't like to get stuck, receive hints, not understand them and continue to be stuck and ask again without progress. That sucks. So I like to reveice a full answer then go exploring and trying things myself. And many are like me. And you can't just declare "only hints will be here, not full answers".

Now then, you playing the offended deciding not to give me hints is kinda over the top and just works against you, don't you want people to play through the game you worked hard on?

So can you or anybody else help me, really help me, with a direct answer to what I need to do next?
everything I did is written there in my original post. So either you forgot something, either I forgot something (but you can see everything I did) or there's a bug;



paolo

Hi Nostradamus,

Sorry if I seemed a bit over the top. Yes, of course I want people to play the game, and I would like to help you or to find out if there is a problem with the game. I know how frustrating it is when you are enjoying a game but nothing you do gets you any further.

I'm not sure exactly what you have and have not done up to this point, and I hope that you haven't found a bug. Here is where I think you should be so far and what should happen if you try these steps again. I'm posting it as a spoiler (direct solution, no hints), because others might not have done all these things yet - please bear with me.

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* Speak to door at bottom right of room (Vince should say "The captain's not there... something fishy is going on." because you've already tried it at least once)
* Interact with main door (Vince should say "It's still firmly locked." because you've already tried it at least once)
* Speak to main door repeatedly until you get no further reply (that is, until Vince says "There's no point - he's not going to let us out.")
* Use the Memo on the door on the left of the room. If you have completed the above step, you should be able to hypnotise the steward through the door.
* Speak to Nick. At this point, there will either be a short conversation about Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves if you have not already spoken to Nick at this point, or he will say "What's in the drawer?"
* Check the desk - a drawer should be open.
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Please let me know whether this works for you. If not, you can PM me and I'll arrange to have a look at your savegame.

Nostradamus

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OK I did what you said and it worked - the problem was I didn't *repeatedly* talked to the door to outside. I tryed it once or twice, got no response and moved on. And as I see it it's a flawed puzzle because in adventure games it's very rare that you have to to use or talk to the same hotspot several times until it triggers a response or an action. When me and most people play adventures you try something once and twice and if doesn't work you leave it and try other things. Why did you expect people to repeatedly try the same thing? seem like the only way to solve that puzzle without getting help is just by random clicking things again and again because of frustration. Just my two cents.

Anyway now I'm stuck here, please help:
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got out of the room, guy is pointing gun at me. Tryed talking to him and the guys and using the memos and all I have in inventory (pen, paper, tape recorder) on all. Nothing work. Seems I might need to reach the fuse box to turn off the lights but I can't. What do I do here?
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Please give a direct answer.



paolo

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Nostradamus:

I'm glad there wasn't a bug in the end. Note that
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Eve and Nick hint that you need to speak to the door again,
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so I think the puzzle is fair.

Note also that
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you can't speak to the door until you have interacted with it. This makes sense because this is what you would do in real life - try the door and find it is locked, and then call out to see if anyone can hear you.
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In the corridor:
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Talk to the steward. If you run out of things to talk to him about, look at things in the room until you find something to ask him about (a new conversation option will appear).
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Nostradamus

I made quite a progress but am stuck again:
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what do I do in room C505 when the evil guy enters?
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please give a direct answer.



paolo

Hints for those who want them, and a direct answer for Nostradamus (the hints also suggest what to do after that):

Hint 1:
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You want to stop the secret operation. The bartender is involved, so stopping him or finding out more information from him is a good idea.
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Hint 2:
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What could you use to find out more about what is going on and so stop the operation?
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Hint 3:
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The Memo of course, but it won't work on the bartender because he has activated the block mode on his Memo.
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Hint 4:
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You need to find some way of overriding the block.
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Hint 5:
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Where could you find out how to do this?
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Hint 6:
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What's a good way to find out information about any gadget?
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Solution:
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Read the manual (that is, look at the manual in the inventory).
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Nostradamus

Further help needed please:
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the captain is talking and talking and talking... what do I do here?
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please give a direct answer.



paolo

Hints and solution (Nostradamus - I recommend you read hints 5 to 7 before you read the solution, even if it is only to understand why the solution is what it is.)

Hint 1:
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Again, the Memo is the key here - if you can somehow interfere with the captain's memory of the operation, that will put an end to it.
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Hint 2:
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However, you can't use the Memo on the captain while the bartender is there, because he has a Memo too and so would know what you are doing.
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Hint 3:
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You need to find some way of using the Memo on the captain without the bartender being able to see what you are doing.
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Hint 4:
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Speak to Eve. She has a hint.
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Hint 5:
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Think back to the conversation in the bar in the introduction - what Vince ask Eve about?
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Hint 6:
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Vince asked Eve how she did the trick with the glasses and plates.
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Hint 7:
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Eve is saying she is planning to do a trick from her show. What prop will she need?
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Solution:
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Give Eve the glass.
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It should be fairly obvious what to do after that. If you get stuck after doing what is fairly obvious, then:
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speak to Eve, and pay attention to her hint.
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Nostradamus

OK, got it. I actually tryed that but apparently just didn't hit the exact pixel - the bartender and the captain are in the way.



sholson

Can't seem to trigger guy coming in storage room where janitor and all of us are searching for clues.  Appreciate  some help here.

paolo

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sholson, I'm not sure how far you've got, but here are some hints. Remember it's a good idea to speak to Eve and Nick to get help, although they might not have much to say in this room (the further you go through the game, the less help they tend to offer, but what they say will almost always be useful).

Hint 1:
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Have you looked in all the containers?
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Hint 2:
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Report back to Grace.
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Hint 3:
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You'll get one of two responses from Grace at this point - pay attention to what she says as it will suggest what you should do next.
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If you've got further than this already, feel free to post again (using spoiler tags, please - see the first posting in the thread).

Zilla

QuoteBah.
I am have just beaten the bit where the Stuart holds you hostage, and I am now in the bar. I have had a long conversation with a women and used my memo on her to the point of which I cannot use it anymore.
What do I do?\
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