Apprentice II: The Continuation

Vel · Sun 11/01/2004 12:24:37

Awesome stuff, I can't wait to play the full thing!

Matt Goble · Sun 11/01/2004 13:49:39

Geoff,

Absolutely FANTASTIC!

I did have technical 'issues' playing the trailer back which I've posted in the Technical Forum (Are you using v2.6?), but even so I'm hugely impressed / jealous / gob-smacked / in awe!

Looking forward to the full release.

Matt

Gregjazz · Sun 11/01/2004 20:23:57

Matt, I used ags26rc1 for the trailer -- I was too lazy at the moment to upgrade to 2.6. I saw your post on the Technical Forum. As far as I can tell there shouldn't be any problem with the trailer itself. Weird.

plasticman · Sun 11/01/2004 22:38:17

just wanted to point that i have the same problem matt described in the tech forum.

otherwise, the trailer is awesome in every aspects - music, artwork/animation, dialogs,... and i'm glad this game will be longer than the first.

Gregjazz · Mon 12/01/2004 05:55:17

Okay, all I need to do is recompile the game in the newest version of AGS. The version I used (26rc1) had some little problems.

I needed to reupload it anways. I gotta find some free server like Freewebs to move it to. Yes, the download will be much slower than our main host, but considering the fees they charge for exceding the daily and monthly bandwidth...

big brother · Mon 12/01/2004 18:31:07

That's actually a really good idea, since the site is over the quota and I can't even see my avatar anymore!

Igor · Mon 12/01/2004 21:42:54

Amazing!
Really great animations and music. Superb!

As i'm just playing first part (great, great game, btw

) : there's something that bothers me about interface. It's a bit tedious to select commands from bottom of screen (or to jump on keyboard to select the right number)... wouldn't it be easier to give a choice to switch between commands with right mouse button? It would be great if you could implement that in sequel.

Otherwise- i'm amazed.

Gregjazz · Mon 12/01/2004 21:46:19

Oh no, my avatar's gone! The website is down.

THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!

Well, maybe not, but for me it sure is.

big brother · Tue 13/01/2004 07:07:10

Igor -

We considered the right click to cycle through commands, but because WALK TO is the default command, there is no other way to access it save for right-clicking. Of course, we could redesign the GUI to add WALK TO on the lower bar, but it seems a bit redundant to me.

Does everyone really prefer a "Sam and Max" interface?

Minimi@school · Tue 13/01/2004 09:48:18

I do prefer an interface with right-mouse click to change mode. But on the other hand, I respect the creator's choice, and am willing to work with other Gui's. Though verbcoins are really irritating to my opinion.

Im not sure if I already gave my opinion in this thread, but I have to say, that that horse animation is the best i've seen in a long time! I wanna animate like that!!

And all the other things were awesome too! A beauty to my eyes. Keep up the good work!

Igor · Tue 13/01/2004 11:40:36

Personally, i'd prefer S&M interface (with keyboard short-cuts still as an option).

Btw, as an idea: i quite like some newer interfaces, where action options become available only on hotspots (then you cycle through them with right mouse button)... while, when cursor is off hotspot, it automatical switches to "walk mode".

Also, i just finished first part of game. Congrats! I absolutely love the fairy-tale mood. My favorite location must be "the barn"- the music & location itself create some kind of sad/darker atmosphere, which is a nice contrast to the rest of the game.

Gregjazz · Tue 13/01/2004 21:17:17

If you read the readme file, you'd know that you can use the keyboard numbers 1-4 as a shortcut for the commands.

If you think Apprentice 1 is any good, my friend, just wait for Apprentice 2 -- which is 10x better!

big brother · Wed 14/01/2004 00:37:23

QuoteBtw, as an idea: i quite like some newer interfaces, where action options become available only on hotspots (then you cycle through them with right mouse button)... while, when cursor is off hotspot, it automatical switches to "walk mode".

This idea sounds neat. So you can only cycle through options while over a hotspot? This eliminates the need for the lower "pull-up" GUI bar, right?
I know when I played S&M, I would often cycle past the desired action by accident. It would be nice to be able to select the action from another menu (as a backup). With your method, this is not possible. Do you think this is an issue?
Also, I'm guessing that you would be able to change actions while over the inventory as well as the room hotspots?

As Gregor mentioned, we have quantified the exact amount by which the second game will surpass the first one.

MrColossal · Wed 14/01/2004 05:37:32

the only warning i have to that type of cursor system [the one that igor mentioned] is accidentally slipping off the hotspot and WOOPS! there goes your cursor.

store the last used cursor maybe? and stay away from pixel hunts not only cause they annoy but because slipping off a few pixels is easier [obviously]

otherwise i love you guys

Gregjazz · Wed 14/01/2004 07:13:53

Having it remember the last cursor is a great idea! I'll have to experiment with that. Thanks!

remixor · Tue 20/01/2004 01:53:17

Any news on an alternate download site? I haven't been to the Games in Production forum in weeks, so I totally missed this the first time around (curses!).

big brother · Tue 20/01/2004 02:06:10

I believe the alternate download is hosted at our new location:
http://herculeaneffort.adventuredevelopers.com/

Thanks a bunch, AdventureDevelopers!

remixor · Tue 20/01/2004 02:10:18

http://herculeaneffort.adventuredevelopers.com/app2trailer.zip

Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.

Apache Server at herculeaneffort.adventuredevelopers.com

Curses again!

Erwin_Br · Tue 20/01/2004 08:57:10

Quote from: big brother on Tue 20/01/2004 02:06:10
I believe the alternate download is hosted at our new location:
http://herculeaneffort.adventuredevelopers.com/

Thanks a bunch, AdventureDevelopers!

Don't thank us yet. You obviously haven't talked to Greg yet about 'the deal'.

Just kidding

Let's see how much bandwidth you guys can abuse. Maybe you'll even beat Screen 7!

--Erwin

Gregjazz · Tue 20/01/2004 22:02:35

I haven't uploaded the Apprentice 2 trailer or Apprentice 1 to the website yet, but you can still download them in the 'Games' section on the AGS website. The links go to working mirrors.

All I had to do to get that webspace was to sell my soul, 50% of all the blood in my body, my kidneys, and various other organs to AdventureDevelopers (who in turn sell on Ebay, FYI). What a deal!

Apprentice II: The Continuation

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