Bush Dilemma

[Nacho]

I think that the sense of Darth Mandarb´s post was  "At least, that moron has done 2 good things ", better than "He has done the 2 things that America needs more and I love him! ", Daniel...

[DGMacphee]

Yes, I got the gist of DM's post.

My post means to say "So what?" regarding those two "great" things Bush has done.

[Nacho]

Oh! Ok then...  

Edit: Out of topic, but I´d like to see your "fuck you suit" (The one with the guy saying "Garda!") in your AGS webpage design...

http://www.sylpher.com/DGMacphee/MyAGSSite/

[DGMacphee]

Oh yes, I am totally going to win the competition!

[Darth Mandarb]

Suitable moment for typo, DM

Ha! Well it was like 7 in the morning and I'd been up all night cramming for a dead-line.

Also, the term "overseas" is sometimes used to describe foreign markets, not just markets "over the sea": http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=overseas

To me that is just stupid.  Mexico and Canada are connected to the US and are not overseas.  I'm not going to argue the semantics though

Although Taryuu thinks George's graduating from Yale guarantees a certain amount of intelligence, I think that's more a question of money donations and similar.

I couldn't agree more here!  College (uni) here in the states is a big joke.  It's a waste of time and money in my opinion.  It has become, rather than a place to prepare you for the real-world, a place to learn how to party and put your career (be it academic or professional) secondary to your social life.  Granted there are those the truely benefit from college, but I'd have to say they're in the minority.  I've heard kids actually say "I wanna go to Michigan State ... they have awesome parties there."  Talk about pathetic.

Then again, the influential youth of America have great role-models to look up to.  Like ultra-classy 50-cent who stormed the stage at the Grammy's because he didn't win.  Or barely legal pop-stars dancing around looking like whores.  Or movie-stars marrying/divorcing like it's going out of style.  Talk about positive role-models.

[shbaz]

The trade relationship between Canada and the US is the largest trade relationship between two countries in the world, which says a lot. Our overseas trade is largely in manufactured electronics in countries like China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, etc. Japan used to send us lots of cars, but now there's Honda America and it's slowed a lot, I don't know about the others (Toyota, Hyundai (sp?)).

[Fuzzpilz]

And since Mexico and Canda are still foreign markets to the US, the phrase "More and more of our imports are coming from overseas" is still stupid shit from a very powerful retard.

I wouldn't say retard. I'd say spoiled rich boy and dry drunk.

[MillsJROSS]

I wouldn't necessarily say colleges here in the state are a joke. My income increases 60% for getting a major here. And though my school was #1 party school three or four years ago, it's renoun in several fields of study (music for one). And those who go to school for parties either end up realising what the uni is about, or they are booted out when they don't pass their classes.

Now as to Bush in Yale. That doesn't say anything to me. I have a friend who got into a college through family connections once he was at first declined.

The argument to the economy being complicated, I agree fully. Lucky me I've taken both Micro/Macro economics. And I know a little about the subject (as I was considering it for a major at one time). I never argued that everything bad in the economy is Bush's fault, it isn't. However, he hasn't done much to improve the economy after 911 as I feel he should have. He went to war when we were economically depressed, and people were opposed to a war. His tax cuts have only manages to raise prices of goods, which in the end doesn't do much for an economy.

I would agree, perhaps that he has average intelligence, comparative to the dolt we make him out to be. But a man of average intelligence shouldn't be running the country.

And what's this I hear about being constructive when we critisize? Because Bush is going to go to the forums and say "Well, gee, he put it so nicely, How could I not do it?"

And I'll be one of the first to admit that I don't know the complexity of everything that is involved in running a country. But fortunatly, there are people who do, who give me their oppinions on the news or through other forums, and from them I can make an educated decision. It's like complaining people are idiots for not knowing how a computer works, when you get really deep down into it, and that those people are incapable of using Word because they don't know binary.

-MillsJROSS

[DGMacphee]

Also, the term "overseas" is sometimes used to describe foreign markets, not just markets "over the sea": http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=overseas

To me that is just stupid.  Mexico and Canada are connected to the US and are not overseas.  I'm not going to argue the semantics though

But it's true -- When financial analysts refer to "overseas markets" they also refer to Canada and Mexico, even though both are a drive away.

[Las Naranjas]

Our analysts save the trouble by not refering to thise nations that border us as Overseas.

[DGMacphee]

I dunno about that -- Tasmania seems like a foreign market at times.  

[TheYak]

I think I've seen that cartoon.  
To quickly distract people before they get so argumentative that they spontaneously combust:

Interesting Saddam article in The Onion

[InCreator]

This thread is an evil thing by itsself.
On the first page, DGMacPhee said about president's
public support and work efficency is related.
The more popular he is, less he has to do something useful to gain more popularity.

Sounds logical. Let's agree.
Now, until today, I didn't give a hell about Bush. World goes downhill anyway, AIDS, drugs, kids with guns, ozone holes, rainforests, endangered species, lack of oil & ore, nuclear waste, orient people - who are only able to reproduce while other races slowly get old and die, etc - It's all pretty obivous that were fucked already.

Bush is one of guys who has been chosen to mop this mess up, (which he actually can't do) and take damage/responsibilty for not being able to stop/slower our doom. So telling that he's a moron should be okay. He chose the job. He knew this will happen. And he probably won't give a shit. He gets paid for it.

Back to DGMacphee's argument - so, if he has at least some power to save humanity, and being popular decreases even that microscoping chance, blabbering in this thread makes things worse. We're talking about someone. There's lots of us. Whole community! If someone is told about often, and even in good way (some posts here...), then we can surely use word "popular". And popular president means shitty president.

Thanks, guys. You have successfully helped to destroy planet Earth.

TeH d00|\/| 15 n3@r!!1! :o

[TheYak]

On the first page, DGMacPhee said about president's
public support and work efficency is related.
The more popular he is, less he has to do something useful to gain more popularity.
. . . (some posts here...), then we can surely use word "popular". And popular president means shitty president.
Thanks, guys. You have successfully helped to destroy planet Earth.

Fortunately, his popularity has dropped such that much of the public is stating that they're voting for Kerry simply because he's the most likely to beat out Bush.  Not a great voting stance but I suppose they could do worse. I just wish they'd do some research on their own instead of going with generalizations.  In either case, his popularity is halfway down the shitter and he's going to have to impress a lot of people to even attempt to keep his job.

Okay, I know English isn't your first language and (given that) you do quite an excellent job.  Jeebus knows I only speak English and some halfway-intelligible Spanish.  Even so... what the fuck does this mean? This, down here \/

orient people - who are only able to reproduce while other races slowly get old and die, etc - It's all pretty obivous that were fucked already.

I get most of that.. environment, toxic waste, nuclear winter, violence, disease, teletubbies, etc.  I don't think my interpretation of the above segment can actually be correct so could someone clarify?

[InCreator]

I get most of that.. environment, toxic waste, nuclear winter, violence, disease, teletubbies, etc. I don't think my interpretation of the above segment can actually be correct so could someone clarify?

Actually, It's more european-nation related.
Europeans are getting old, less children born every day (abortions, condoms, AIDS and low income) and statistics'n'research people say that most of european nations can be declared already as endangered, which is opposite to asian people, where's birth rate is too high. Heard it on TV and at school (sometimes even educative place, uh?).
"Asian" is the word that I couldn't remember - so there's this confusing "oriental"... And yes, closest english-speaking nations are thousands of kilometres away from me, that's why 4 posts of 5 of mine are usually re-edited...

P.S. Oh, and never ever take any of my comments seriously, not here or any thread else. Usually I'm joking or just bored and picking a fight. Like - my overcreative underslept insomniac brain can even calculate a theory how the fact that you're reading *this text* right here, would be a part of big conspiracy which would destroy whole world...  

But then again, It's a skill which is quite handy when putting together story for an adventure game, right?

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[Minimi]

omg increator, you are one wise man! Amen to every word of you!

No serious, I do think you are right, with the fact that we are fucked anyway

[DGMacphee]

This thread is an evil thing by itsself.
On the first page, DGMacPhee said about president's
public support and work efficency is related.

But, I didn't say that.

I said the opposite, that they aren't related:

"A president (or any politician) doesn't perform any better if they gain higher public support."

In other words, a president still has the capacity to do a good job, or a crap job, despite whether the public support him or not.

A president's performance is (theoretically) based upon his resources: such things as who is he (intelligence, history, etc), what he stands for (his ideal, politics, etc), and the people he has working for him (cause even if the president has shit-for-brains, he still can perform well if he has good staff).

And granted, I could get into a whole chunk of text on whether the president is a puppet of his staff (such as Cheney and Rumsfled), but that doesn't detract from the fact that public support does not affect Bush's performance as a president.

It does however affect whether Bush BECOMES president or not, but NOT his actual performance.

And even then, public support doesn't always decide who becomes president because...

He chose the job.

No, the Supreme Court chose him over Al Gore for the job. HAR HAR HAR!

Back to DGMacphee's argument - so, if he has at least some power to save humanity, and being popular decreases even that microscoping chance, blabbering in this thread makes things worse.

Oh, I get it -- you think because I said "Being popular doesn't increase your performance" interprets as "Being popular decreses your performance".

Sorry, no, you got the wrong idea, even if you are joking.

Having public support has NO AFFECT on what a president can do -- neither positive or negative.

Public support is only a measure of political performance.

In other words, one way we can gauge a president's performance is through public support.

But public support itself has no affect.

It's like pitting a popular 9 pound weakling against a butch army jailbird rapist -- We can tell the 9 pound weakling is more popular (there's the guage), but no matter how popular the 9 pound weakling is, he's gonna get fucked by the army rapist bigtime (and there's the acutal performance).

So, whether I, or anyone, supports Bush or condemns him, he's still going to do the same shitty job he always does.

And my criticism of him isn't going to hurt the world -- cause when you look at the reality of it, all I'm doing is posting an over-simplified argument on (of all things) an adventure game forum!

Yeah, we're going to change the world!

ALL ABOARD THE REALITY TRAIN -- NEXT STOP, THE AGS FORUM! TOOT TOOT!!!

Thanks, guys. You have successfully helped to destroy planet Earth.

I re-read your post several times and I still don't know how you came to this conclusion, even it you weren't taking it seriously.

Look at it like this: don't blame us for destroying planet Earth for just writing in an anti-Bush thread on an adventure game forum -- If you what to blame us for detroying planet Earth, pick something better, like us farting too much and it's destroying the ozone layer.


And once again, a fart joke has helped us travel the path to true enlightenment.


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[TheYak]

Actually, It's more european-nation related. . . .
P.S. Oh, and never ever take any of my comments seriously, not here or any thread else.

I probably seemed more agressive than my post was meant to be, partially do to using the fuck-word.  Anyway, that segment was reading a bit like a fascist conspiracy-theorist wrote it, inspiring fear of oriental subjugation.  It still sounds like something taught in schools to inspire nationalism.  Still too damn tired for this shit.

[Esseb]

I still wonder what you think Bush is doing to "mop [that] mess up". I'll show good fate and attribute it to a poor choice of words.