Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory 2005

Darth Mandarb · Tue 09/03/2004 17:43:56

QuoteHe seems to be moving away from his Batman/Edward Scissorhands/Sleepy Hollow style.

Too true. I'm hoping this movie will have the super creepy (very dark) undertone that I picked up from the original. I really enjoy ALL TB's movies, however, I enjoy his darker movies much more.

If he can set a mood in Wonka like he did in Sleepy Hollow it'll be perfect. When I watched the original I just kept expecting at any moment that Wilder was about to sprout horns and wave a pitch fork about. I hope Tim Burton captures that ...

Or maybe I'm the only one who saw that in the original ...

~ d

even · Tue 09/03/2004 18:21:17

I commend Burton for taking on this project.

No one should be frustrated at Burton for the existence of a second Willy Wonka-ish movie, remake or not.

There was actually a situation where Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston had the same idea to produce Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. So an adaptation of the book would have been made without Burton or not. Just be glad it IS Burton and not hollywood's pretty folk. Tim has some of the best production design, and I doubt it will be CGI laden to the point of disgust.

remixor · Tue 09/03/2004 19:47:16

Quote from: Las Naranjas on Tue 09/03/2004 04:39:26
He's going to be British in the next Batman film.

No kidding.

I know, I meant that decision totally escapes me. I really hope Chris Nolan knows what he's doing with Batman, because he's already got one strike against him in my book.

Las Naranjas · Tue 09/03/2004 21:30:53

LOTR, Harry Potter!

British Accents are cool man!
Especially when they're going to be the RE [received Enunciation] that only old BBC announcers and thespians use]

and Ali, I did mean plot wise. Exchange rates are sorta putting the binds on the glut of foreign made productions.

even · Tue 09/03/2004 22:56:20

Aha! But you all are not seeing the big picture.

Batman speaks with an english accent for a very good reason.

Batman is struck by his arch nemesis the "Linguister" and for the remaining 88 minutes of the film, tries to regain his normal american high class accent.

Evil · Tue 09/03/2004 23:42:13

Batman cant have too much of a British accent. If he does then Alfred's accent loses value, and thats all the poor old man has anymore, a $20 tux and a british accent.

DGMacphee · Tue 09/03/2004 23:56:37

But it's Michael Caine playing Alfred -- He's so British he practically invented British people.

remixor: What did Chris Nolan do to deserve a strike?

Evil · Tue 09/03/2004 23:58:13

Michael Caine!?! That guy has a semi-gay british accent, its not the same!

DGMacphee · Wed 10/03/2004 00:46:28

Even if he has a semi-gay accent, he's been laid more times than you and me combined.

And that's what I call REAL BRITISH POWER!!!

Also, I'm guessing you've never seen Get Carter or Mona Lisa?

Robert Eric · Wed 10/03/2004 02:13:20

Michael Cain rocks, no matter what. Gay, straight, or in an Austin Powers movie...doesn't matter.

Evil · Wed 10/03/2004 03:35:46

He is a good actor, dont get me wrong. He just doesnt seem to be good enough for Alfred, thats all I'm saying.

DGMacphee · Wed 10/03/2004 03:51:05

A elderly, british gentlemen with plenty of tongue-in-cheek... no, that doesn't sound like Michael Caine at all!

Jockstrap · Wed 10/03/2004 04:25:09

Ah, actually Batman won't be British. He's being played by a British man (Christian Bale), but he won't be British.

Las Naranjas · Wed 10/03/2004 06:53:44

QuoteBatman is becoming British after director Christopher Nolan has been given the go-ahead to reinvent the American character in new movie Batman: Intimidation. The Memento film-maker wants to freshen up the superhero, who has so far featured in four modern day features, and has decided to give Batman and his American playboy alter-ego Bruce Wayne a more 'James Bond' feel.

http://www.imdb.com/PeopleNews/2004/20040213

I can dig up a few more articles, but that's the easiest to come to hand.

remixor · Wed 10/03/2004 09:07:09

That really bothers me (and it's what I meant when I said Nolan has one strike against him). I'm all for British superheroes, but it just seems wrong to me to changed the nationality of an already-established character. And in this particular case, I really don't think Batman should have anything to do with Bond. They're totally different (at least, they WERE totally different).

Jockstrap · Wed 10/03/2004 09:40:24

I believe that that's in reference to the fact that most of the cast and crew are British (Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Liam Neeson Cillian Murphy, Christopher Nolan). And since when can you take what major news sources say as FACT? Even Warner Brothers has been giving out bogus information.

But who knows, I could be wrong. Dead wrong.

DGMacphee · Wed 10/03/2004 11:25:01

Also, most of the filming locations are British too.

And the director.

And I think most of the crew are too.

Plus, this is IMDB news versus your opinion -- No offense, but at the moment IMDB seems to have more basis for fact.

Meowster · Wed 10/03/2004 19:49:44

Quote
I believe that that's in reference to the fact that most of the cast and crew are British (Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Liam Neeson Cillian Murphy, Christopher Nolan). And since when can you take what major news sources say as FACT? Even Warner Brothers has been giving out bogus information.

But who knows, I could be wrong. Dead wrong.

This is usually not something that bothers me enough to say anything, but it's been done so much at this stage I thought I'd mention it.

The Republic of Ireland is not part of Britain. Britain does not own it, nor are the citizens of British Nationality. Therefore, somebody who comes from the Republic of Ireland is Irish. Ireland and England are two separate countries.

Probably you made a mistake, or perhaps mentioned his name offhandedly. I'm just saying it because it's always good to know things like this. It's irritating for your country and nationality to constantly be referred to as British (or anything else for that matter) when it's not. I'm sure the Canadians and Estonian people get the same sort of thing.

And back to the thread: I also disagree with changing the nationality of Batman. Was he perhaps british in the comics? I never read them. But I always thought he was supposed to be one of those patriotic american superheroes.... Hmmm...

And Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka?! Noooo!

Las Naranjas · Wed 10/03/2004 21:04:48

In a strict way, Ireland IS part of Britain.

"Britain" classically refers to all the islands on that side of the channel.

As for being of British nationality, the Irish, being celts, are infinitely more British than the English.

The issue got confused because of the practice of calling The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland [later just Northern Ireland] "Britain" by itself. After all, in the 19th and 20th century it was all of Britain, even though in it's title it only refered to Great Britain, which is to say the largest island, with England/Scotland/Wales. It's roughly similar to the whole USA/America/Estados Unidense debate which you wouldn't have read.

So the term "Britain" gets confused with the government of westminster, and the title become shunned by Irish republicans.

In all truth, were you truly a patriotic lass of Eire, you would decry the fashion in which lowly anglo saxon dogs have taken the title of the land of the celts.

DGMacphee · Thu 11/03/2004 02:01:37

So you're saying technically the Irish, Scottish, and Welsh are all "British", just not "English"?