Teh AGS Screen, me not happy.

Phemar · Thu 27/05/2004 06:02:39

Well, it's been quite a while since I posted here now, (but don't worry, I've been doing lots and lots of artwork

) and I'd like to share my AGS screen.

That would be it. Yes, I will allow you to shout "TEH GRADIENTS!!11!1" as much as you want, because I deserve it.

Please help me improve this one.

-Cheers, Zor.

MrColossal · Thu 27/05/2004 07:08:37

which tree? there are 6.

Squinky inspired at all? Cause it seems so.

When you clarify what tree I'll say more.

InCreator · Thu 27/05/2004 07:20:15

Oh, these colors make me sleepy... *yawn*
Why not put more contrast into them and make some of them brighter? Right now it's all one big sleepy mass along with gui. It's nicely done, but strangely colored, though it gives atmosphere.

Trees are fine, just add some leaves. And think a bit about making outlines less contrasty while increasing contrast between different types of trees.

Character is pretty good. Remove few pixels around his face to make it more rounder, so he won't look like a robot. And try to improve shading by making clear where light comes from.

HillBilly · Thu 27/05/2004 07:20:18

I must say that your drawings has improved alot after your first ones.

Kweepa · Thu 27/05/2004 07:21:17

I'm guessing the one on the right.
Since it's (imo) the worst - the branches get all spindly too quickly, the bark looks more like a cross section of wood, and there's no foliage.
Umm, sorry if you wanted help on a different tree.

Also, I don't understand how that scroll is attached to the tree, unless it isn't and that's the central stick that it rolls up on.

I like how the trees have all got separate character, but you could make the right hand tree more like the big one in the middle.

It sure is Squinky-esque. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Look at that water colour!

Nice to see a new GUI down there too.

Phemar · Thu 27/05/2004 16:14:43

I would have thought which tree was obvious, but yes, the big ugly unfinished blob on the right...

Quote from: HillBilly on Thu 27/05/2004 07:20:18
I must say that your drawings has improved alot after your first ones.

Why, thank you...

Yes, inspired after playing Fry 3. Damn, that was a good game. I wanted to capture Squinky's lovely style, but without making it too obvious it was sorta copied from there...dang, guess I failed there.

I actually wanted to give a kind of "block head", so to add character. I think I like him how he is, though I think the hook could be a bit bigger...

And yes, I think the water was a main give-away.

I also don't get what so "sleepy" about the colors. You should have seen them before - you would have looked at it for 5 seconds before your eyes hurt...

I'll try to rework the tree...

I am also not too crazy about the colors of the GUI.

Johnny Odd · Thu 27/05/2004 19:16:17

I think the trees on the left need a little shading - plus I don't like the way all the trees conect to the floor. Sorry.

I like it as a whole - nice colours - I don't see them as sleepy really....
P.S. what was squinky?

Darth Mandarb · Thu 27/05/2004 19:27:12

Quote from: Johnny Odd on Thu 27/05/2004 19:16:17P.S. what was squinky?

Not what ... who: Squinky

Johnny Odd · Thu 27/05/2004 19:35:22

:oOooohhh... SQUINKY! :

Okie day

Phemar · Fri 04/06/2004 05:21:37

A few more Beegees:

#1:

And that character, do you think he is good enough for a main character?
I was thinking of having a guy in a suit, but for now he might just be a place-holder...And yes, I am fully aware there is a branch that emerges into a pole growing out the wall...That white spot at the top is p-point I used, if anyone wants to do paintovers...

#2:

And yes, I am also fully aware of a big green object making it's up into the sky...

So, er, what do you think?

Darth Mandarb · Fri 04/06/2004 05:48:25

Looks pretty good!

The green wall on the second BG is missing a part of dimension.Ã,Â The part near the bottom ... there's a piece stickin' out that doesn't have dimension to it.

The room BG looks pretty good.Ã,Â The shading is pretty nice.

The character is pretty good.Ã,Â He could use a nose maybe.Ã,Â And the arms seems to be sitting too far forward ...

I like what I'm seeing so far for this game. I remember some of the other BGs you've shown and this game looks like it's gonna be pretty darn good!

Phemar · Fri 04/06/2004 06:03:18

Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 04/06/2004 05:48:25
The green wall on the second BG is missing a part of dimension. The part near the bottom ... there's a piece stickin' out that doesn't have dimension to it.

Oops, yeah...

Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 04/06/2004 05:48:25
Looks pretty good!
The room BG looks pretty good. The shading is pretty nice.
The character is pretty good.

Thank you...coming from you, I shall treasure this quote...

Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 04/06/2004 05:48:25
I like what I'm seeing so far for this game. I remember some of the other BGs you've shown and this game looks like it's gonna be pretty darn good!

Which game are you refering to? There are 3 of my games currently in production...(1 being made in total secret...woops...)

I have decided to cut Counterfeit down and make it smaller. The game wasn't what I had expected it to be. When I started, I was like all "This game's gonna be SO cool when it's done,", but it didn't turn out how I wanted it to. I will be releasing it soon.

S*** look at time, late for school, gotta go, cheers...

EDIT: Now I got more time...

About the char...What do you mean by his arms coming too forward? I've also tried several styles of noses...none look good.

But thanks for the crits.

P.S. Could any-one please help me make my water look less "Squinky", but keeping with the general style of the beegees?

Johnny Odd · Fri 04/06/2004 13:46:46

The room bg = cool A little explaination about this tree pole would probably make it better - i don't get what it is.
The second bg also has that weird green moon thingy??
I like the first bg, but i don't understand the second - where would you walk/interact? Where does the bottom of the red brick building go?

Maybe i'm just missing something at the mo...
But i like the first one and the character is very nice.

InCreator · Fri 04/06/2004 14:00:55

Sea. Water just cannot be round at some point! Well, if it doesn't happen to be a really small planet, that is.
Make it's top edge absolutely horisontal.
Well, and character seems to be too big for this room. Consider scaling him smaller in final game.

kaaZ · Fri 04/06/2004 14:55:25

Well here's an idea on the water....

Tried to keep your style here...I probably didn't succeed that wel...
still hope this helps a bit...

Cheers!
kaaZ

Phemar · Fri 04/06/2004 14:58:37

Quote from: InCreator on Fri 04/06/2004 14:00:55
Sea. Water just cannot be round at some point! Well, if it doesn't happen to be a really small planet, that is.
Make it's top edge absolutely horisontal.

Done and done.

I don't want to scale him! No, I shall not scale him, never ever!
No but seriously, I'm not going to scale him...

Quote from: Johnny Odd on Fri 04/06/2004 13:46:46
The room bg = cool A little explaination about this tree pole would probably make it better - i don't get what it is.
The second bg also has that weird green moon thingy??
I like the first bg, but i don't understand the second - where would you walk/interact? Where does the bottom of the red brick building go?

Maybe i'm just missing something at the mo...
But i like the first one and the character is very nice.

On the 2nd you would walk on that small ledge there under the window...I don't want to give away too much info at the moment...just wait, you'll see!

EDIT: Woah, didn't see yours there kaaz! Well done that looks cool! I'll see if I can try and modify it a bit...

Phemar · Sat 05/06/2004 10:38:28

Here's an update:

I think the water is cool. Now my main problem lies in the building...You see my nature-beegees look so stylish...but my manmade objects are so...bland. Help anyone?

Damien · Sat 05/06/2004 15:19:07

Your BG's keep getting beter and better.

Paintover:

a)Nice work on painting the sea, but isn't it more logical that it should be drawn brighter where the water is shallow (near the shore), and darker where the water is deeper? That's just what i did.

b)made the sky gradient parallel with the horizon.

c) The top of the red building should be the lighter than the back of it. When I look at the shading of your pic, it looks like the light source is behind the buildings, so the walls closer to the player should be colored darker

d)the perspective of the room inside the red building is wrong, I tried to correct it a little.

Hope that helped.

InCreator · Sat 05/06/2004 19:00:11

um... but why fill half of the bg with big piece of pointless wall? This sounds ok in cutscene, where - um - let's say, character is sneaking after someone or something and peeking from the wall, but in game?

Phemar · Sat 05/06/2004 19:49:51

InCretin : Well how do you propose I really do it?
Both walls are absolutely necessary for the game...

Damien: Yeah, you're right. What that actually is is a cliff...should I still reverse the gradient?