custom winsetup?

Started by YotamElal, Sun 24/04/2005 12:54:59

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YotamElal

can I change winsetup.exe to have different options?

DoorKnobHandle

#1
No, everything that the winsetup.exe file does is to change the values and save them as .cfg file and then start the game. You cannot change anything there.

strazer

No.

You can code your own program however, since the setup only modifies the acsetup.cfg file. You can find some options you can change here and in the cfg-file itself of course.

monkey0506

Well that should be easy enough for anyone who knows programming...

Ishmael

Actually, the winsetup.exe only runs a "gamename.exe --setup" command... the setup itself is in the game exe.
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YotamElal

I understand it is easy to program.
It's to bad I don't know how to program.

Maybe someone know of other versions of winsetup.exe that other people programed like a version that you can't shut of the sound or somthing???

???Did anyone program other versions of winsetup.exe???

Gilbert

As far as I know there're no custom setup programmes at the moment, it may be a good idea to prevent the users from setting some of the parameters, but preventing them to disable sound is quite a rude idea.

SSH

Especially since sound can be disabled in so many other ways, such as unplugging your speakers: you're just making your game harder to use, not stopping anyone from playing it without sound.
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Gilbert

Of course, anyone who's familiar with AGS can always go by that GAMENAME.exe --SETUP route. :=

Ishmael

Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on Mon 25/04/2005 09:10:33
Of course, anyone who's familiar with AGS can always go by that GAMENAME.exe --SETUP route. :=

Indeed... I might even make a VB program that runs this automatically if it finds an AGS game in the folder it's in ::)

This VB cource is making me overcreative...
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YotamElal

Gilbot:
In my game I worked alot on the music & speech & I perfor that people play it with music & speech.
In the winsetup.exe there are options I wouldn't want like..

1)  option of not using the vox files. (if someone really wants they could choose in the soundcard pulldown "no sound". (but they would be missing alot of the game)
2) replay option???
3) 2 grayed options which arn't usable
4) languge

all these I would like to remove but I can't...  :o(

Ishmael

Tell us... WHY? Why in the name of whoever you believe in you want to restrict the users with differing configurations, levels of understanding of the game language and such, from playing your game just as they prefer to? AGS was made flexible about this, why do you want to restrict the player? They should be able to miss something of it if they choose to.
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YotamElal

i'll explain by order...

1) I don't perfur people to play without sound.
The sound is a big part of the game. (speech&music)
and if they really want to they could choose no sound in the soundcard pulldown menu.
2) the replay option can't be used cuase it has only one option.
"don't use replay"
3) 2 grayed options which can't be used. (so I don't want them there)
4) I only have one languge for my game!!!
so I don't want a languge menu u cant use!


Ishmael

Complain to CJ then!

Or better yet, go write your own engine if the one Chris so kindly has provided for absolutely free isn't good enough for you!
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Ubel

I think you can remove these features with Resource Hacker. I'm not sure though. :-\

MrColossal

Ishmael you really need to calm down.

Where did he say that AGS wasn't good enough for him? Where did he say anything bad about AGS? He just doesn't want there to be options in the setup that don't pertain to his game, no need to go off on him.

Yotamelal, the thing is, people will look at winsetup probably once the entire time they play your game, and the majority of people won't even run it because they'll just play the game. I wouldn't worry about it or if it bugs you that much maybe someone can write a custom program for you.
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YotamElal

First of all thanku MrColossal,

Ishmael, you were being pretty rude, all I wanted was some help.
I didn't complain to CJ & I didn't complain to you.
I think AGS is amazing & CJ is probobly allso.

MrColossal
It isn't that important to me. I just thought that maybe other people would allso want a profesional setup for there game...

Pablo thanku for the reaourse hacker but it only lets you change the icon, the icon info & the version info.
(probobly good if anyone wants high quality icons for there game)

Ishmael

Quote from: YotamElal on Sun 24/04/2005 12:54:59
can I change winsetup.exe to have different options?

Quote from: [ ... ] on Sun 24/04/2005 13:01:46
No

Quote from: strazer on Sun 24/04/2005 13:04:37
No.

Quote from: Ishmael on Sun 24/04/2005 20:30:15
Actually, the winsetup.exe only runs a "gamename.exe --setup" command... the setup itself is in the game exe.

Quote from: YotamElal on Mon 25/04/2005 08:22:11
I understand it is easy to program.
It's to bad I don't know how to program.

Maybe someone know of other versions of winsetup.exe that other people programed like a version that you can't shut of the sound or somthing???

???Did anyone program other versions of winsetup.exe???

Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on Mon 25/04/2005 08:43:27
As far as I know there're no custom setup programmes at the moment, it may be a good idea to prevent the users from setting some of the parameters, but preventing them to disable sound is quite a rude idea.

And too lazy to quote on. But isn't the idea clear? No, cannot change the AGS internal setup, and mendling the winsetup.exe is not of use, as it only runs one command on the main game exe. What is the fuzz about disabling them anyway? I still don't understand WHY do you want to delete the options...

If someone wants to play the game while listening to music from winamp or some audiobook while playing, why won't you let them? And the replay thingy might get useful at some point, though the replays go out of sync pretty easily. What is someone wants to make a translation of your game? How do people use it with the current version of your game if the translation option is gone? And what greyed out options? The letterbox and 32bit color downgrading? Eric, go put up a poll in the Adventure chit chat about how many people are bothered about those two options in the setup program if the game is 320x240 relative res and 16 or 8 bit color, so the options are greyed out.
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YotamElal

WOW! you really have a temper!
Are you mad at me? Did I afend you?

All I'm trying to do is ask for help...

Some people try to help nicelly.
Some people just say what they think.
And some people choose to respond negatively.

Ishmael,  if you don't understand yet..
I want a PROPER setup for my game with relevant options only,

And if a person wants to have winamp in the backround:
I wrote twice "if they really want to they could choose no sound in the soundcard pulldown menu."




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