Daylight Savings/Summer Time Strikes Back!

Started by edmundito, Mon 27/03/2006 08:02:43

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edmundito

Yo,

I just noticed that the forums are showing an hour ahead for us living in the States, at least. I think I remember from a previous instance that the UK changes their time a week before than the United States does for daylight savings, therefore setting the time an hour forward a week before we're due. We change our time on April 2nd.

Is there any way to correct this glitch? If not, just uh... write some official warning or something. :D

DutchMarco

We moved to Summertime (is that DST, or is that "normal" time in English?) this weekend.

How peculiar that this isn't a worldwide standard. Then again I know that not every US state uses DST, never mind about the rest of the world.

Privateer Puddin'

#2
There's a time offset somewhere in your settings if you can't wait a week ;p

Pumaman

Really Edmundo, is this an AGS Technical question? :P

But yes, rather annoyingly the US changes to daylight savings time a week after Europe. It might be possible to do some sort of cunning hack in the forums to detect if you put "US" in your Location and then twiddle the time, but that's the sort of thing that would be so fiddly that in all likelihood it would never work properly.

Either you'll have to put up with it for a week, or as Puddin' says, change the time offset in your profile temporarily...

edmundito

#4
WEll, The technical forum does say "bug reports" on the subtitle... vs "Serious and silly threads are fine, stupid threads are not :p"... which would you choose? I call this a bug, in a way... :P

Only like 2 states don't use DST (DST = summer time), and uh depending where you live you don't get it. Not only that, but I heard that they were going to change the weeks for DST over here. who knows. I was actually wonderiing if anyone else who doesn't get a time change in this forum got a time change, too, or if it was a rule written for certain time zones.

Here's what the fountain of knowledge, wikipedia, says about the subject:

"North America generally follows the same procedure, going by local time in each zone, each time zone switching at 02:00 LST (local standard time) to 03:00 LDT (local daylight time) on the first Sunday in April, and again from 02:00 LDT to 01:00 LST on the last Sunday in October."

"Most of Arizona does not observe DST. However, the large Navajo Indian Reservation, which extends from Arizona into two adjacent states, does. "

"Beginning in 2007, [in the US/Canada] it will start DST on the second Sunday in March, and change back to standard time on the first Sunday in November."

Yeah, so uh... time measure is relatively silly.

m0ds

Sorry, this thread is too sensible for this forum & will be locked.

Pumaman

Quote from: Edmundo on Mon 27/03/2006 16:29:20
"Beginning in 2007, [in the US/Canada] it will start DST on the second Sunday in March, and change back to standard time on the first Sunday in November."

Oh now that's ridiculous ... so it's changing from being one week after Europe to one week before; can't we all just agree a date ... or better still, scrap daylight savings completely and just live on summertime?

Oneway

I suggest writing your congressman about it.. Maybe he can fix this glitch you're talking about :)
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edmundito


Kinoko

This whole thread is ridiculous because everyone knows daylight savings is a stupid thing in the first place. There are differences in light levels in different seasons - get over it, world.

Grundislav

Well, if anyone knows about ridiculous threads, it's Kinoko!Ã,  :o

Gilbert

I think we had daylight savings here some decades ago but was scraped due to its stupidness, I'll say any other cities should do the same!

Timosity

It's opposite in the Southern Hemisphere as usual (in the parts that have daylight saving), we are just about to go back to normal time after being in Daylight savings for the last 5 months in the south east of Australia (even longer in Tasmania). If you search google as I did the other day you can find out the dates that everyone changes.

I thought it was strange cause it usually ends at 3am on the last Sunday in March but my computer didn't tell me it had changed (as it usually does), I asked a neighbour and he told me that because of the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, they moved it back a week (and strangely enough Microsoft knew this and had an update without me knowing)


Quote from: Edmundo on Mon 27/03/2006 08:02:43
Is there any way to correct this glitch? If not, just uh... write some official warning or something. :D

It's hardly a glitch as the worlds time doesn't centre around the US and as this forum is based from the UK, that is what time it should use.

Obviously Edmundo you must base your clock around the AGS forums time, I suggest having a look in you're profile:

click on profile up the top, on the left under Modify your profile there is Look and Layout Preferences Then you should notice Time Offset:

This will set your time to the correct time where you live if you adjust it properly,

you will still have to adjust when daylight savings is out of wack, but seeing as you are completely aware of the differences of time, I'm wondering the point.



Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 28/03/2006 01:27:11
This whole thread is ridiculous because everyone knows daylight savings is a stupid thing in the first place. There are differences in light levels in different seasons - get over it, world.

I disagree, the closer you are to the equator you are, there is less reason to have it,

It is only a psychological thing anyway, cause you don't gain any extra hours of light or anything,

but as far as it goes in Sydney in summer the sun comes up way too early which tricks people, so instead of readjusting the times you go to work, it's easier to just change the clock. (which in turn does adjust the time you go to work, but you don't get busted for being late, or locked out for being early [and you have an excuse if you wound your clock the wrong way])

and at the other end of the scale, I've just noticed over the last few weeks I have to put my headlights on when driving to work, but in a weeks time because of the adjustment I won't have to put my lights on.

So basically it just keeps the 9-5 people happy and their offices running smoothly

We also get to sleep in an extra hour Next Monday

Las Naranjas

Be fair Timosity, Queenslanders would get confused using all those buttons on the clock twice a year.
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edmundito

Quote from: Timosity on Tue 28/03/2006 06:09:19
you will still have to adjust when daylight savings is out of wack, but seeing as you are completely aware of the differences of time, I'm wondering the point.

Well, the point was that as Chris wouldn't be able to notice anything about the forum since it works fine on his end, like pointing out something if AGS was misbehaving. Also, if was to see if there was some kind of solution or a reason to why it was happening, out of curiosity. someone had to point it out. :=

I had two theories on how the forum worked... 1) you could program daylight savings changes, or 2) form time is the server time... which is coincidentially running on such a standard time (GMT 0) though the server is apparently located in Utah, in the united states. That doesn't stop anyone from setting up the time to whatever they want, anyway.

Kinoko

Grundislav: Ouch, below the belt dude. Anyway, I think you meant "awesome" threads. Let's face it, I have a history of creating the threads that immediately jump to 10 pages and get people talking, as opposed to showing up at the forum and going, "Hmph, it's dead today" :)

Re: Daylight savings ... it's -way- easier to simply get used to the different light levels than it is to change the time of entire regions/countries, making everything to do with calculating time around the world more complicated. But hey, if you guys want it, you can have it. My problem is with the businesses on the Gold Coast trying to get it in Brisbane too ^_^

Babar

Yay! The time is back to normal! No more being an hour out of synch.
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Haddas

Why can't we compromise and move the time forward half an hour permanently?

Timosity

Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 28/03/2006 09:17:04
Re: Daylight savings ... it's -way- easier to simply get used to the different light levels than it is to change the time of entire regions/countries

I do agree that it is easier to get used to the light levels, and I hate when daylight savings starts, just getting used to getting up an hour earlier is hard to get used to.

a few hours (ie jetlag) is easier to get used to cause it's a more obvious defined change, just trying to get up 1 hour earlier is hard for me, cause I just keep hitting snooze and end up just starting work an hour late, it took me about 6 weeks last time to get used to it.

but the advantage lies on the other side when you get to sleep in an extra hour. If only I just kept working on daylight saving hours all year, i'd be able to start work early, and finish in the middle of the day more often.

I just like Daylight savings, it reminds that summer is here, but damn it now winter is coming and it might drop below 20C

Cino

Here in Estonia they decided not to change the time anymore a few years ago, but it lasted for a year or so, probably because it was too confusing to be different from the rest of the world :(

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