Wii

[vict0r]

great design you say?
i present to you the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 in all their angular boxy glory...


if that's great design i'm a barbecue lamp

Okay mister BBQ. I present the gamecube "design".


Its a purple box. Totally unappealing to the eye, with a handle! A handle. Compared to the ps2 whitch design is smooth and cool. And it fits everywhere. The only positive thing about the GC is the short loading time.

[Privateer Puddin']

Handle is on the back, you've drawn it on the top. My gamecube is black.

[Mr Jake]

Mine is silver. The handle is useful. You can get it in a range of colours. It looks much more interesting than PS2. YOU LOSE.

[Haddas]

I love the Ad

[ManicMatt]

But on the PS2's disc tray you can swivel the logo around weeeeee! And it has an empty space at the back where I store my sweeties in. that MUST be what it's for.

I played the parody ad. I could make out "motherf*cker" and "weeeeee" and that's it. What's it saying?

[voh]

No I'm sorry, but if you have to hold your arm up at the screen and wave it around for hours on end to play a game you WILL get arm ache.

Then plug in a gamecube controller and use that. It does have 4 GC controller ports, y'see. (which also makes it possible to use a PS2 controller on the Wii)

How that eventually translates into how the games are controlled with a GC controller or if it even works with all games, we won't know until the system is released. But I imagine that I'll use the system mainly for the downloadable NES/SNES/N64 games and my small collection of GC games anyway, so I won't use the wiimote that much

[Haddas]

I played the parody ad. I could make out "motherf*cker" and "weeeeee" and that's it. What's it saying?

The song is from a legendary age-old flash, which name I can't remember

[vict0r]

My gamecube is black.

Mine is silver. The handle is useful.

Most i've seen are purple. And its crappy plastic design is painful. And the handle is useful? For what? If you are going somewhere with your gamecube you will probably need games too. And controllers. And when bringing all these things why dont you just put them in a bag?!

Then plug in a gamecube controller and use that. It does have 4 GC controller ports, y'see. (which also makes it possible to use a PS2 controller on the Wii)

What if you dont have a GC controller then? Then you buy new GC controllers for your piss? Unneccesary!

[Las Naranjas]

From here, as a person who has never owned a console, not ever been interested in a console before, I'm actually interested in the Wii. I'm sure I'm not the only person in a greatly expanded market which comes from innovation, rather than hurling numbers of specs regarding polygon counts on chainmail bikinis at each other.

[vict0r]

What innovation? Crappy controllers?

[voh]

Vict0r: Yeah, because buying accessories (and buying an additional controller to play in a more comfortable way is buying an accessory) is unheard of for a console. The GC came with corded controllers. Those who wanted wireless controllers had to buy a Wavebird. OH GNO! ADDITIONAL COSTS?!

Games cost 50 euro a piece, on average. An additional GC controller would cost more around 15 or so. If you get it second-hand it'd be 4 euros or so. If you have a GC - hey, the controller also works on the Wii! If you've got a PS2 or XBOX, get a cheap PS2/XBOX > GC adapter and you can use that one.

Wow. So horrible. I don't know how I'm ever going to get around it Ã, :

Also, concerning your comment about "crappy controllers".

You're saying it's crappy without having touched or ever seen one besides the pictures posted on the web? Now THAT'S an informed opinion! (cue rolling eyes) ... *load*  :

[Layabout]

Well at least you are better than my former roomie... He would break a ps2/xbox controller per week. I can think your outgoings on a new controller would be less than his.

[voh]

Hell, I still have my original Megadrive controllers

And I've got one of those DC > USB adapters, so I can play emulated games with my dreamcast pad. I'm swimming in console accessories and I love it.

How else would I cross the room? Walk?!

[ManicMatt]

The reason I went from a computer gamer to a console gamer in the first place was because you didn't have to keep buying accessories and upgrades like on a computer.

I couldn't afford to buy upgrades for my Amiga every month to play the latest games back then!

Now I earn money and don't rely on pocket money, I can afford to be a console gamer AND a PC gamer. 

However having said that, buying a GC controller isn't a requirement.

[Mr Flibble]

Nintendo are targetting non-gamers. From that perspective, its smart.

"Xbox? Oh yeah, thats one of those game console thingies."

"Wii? What the hell is that....I've never heard of it before."

Which I think is exactly what they were aiming for.

[Las Naranjas]

It keeps reminding me of The Sims in a targeting non-gamers regard, and that was profitable.

X-Box 360, Revolution, then Magnum X-Treme, Cougar?....they all sound like what focus groups of Gamers [captial G] thought sounded cool, and what is cool to Gamers [capital G] easily puts off others [like me]. Why not let the Gamers stay with the other two and reap the huge potential market. Hell, the more the Gamers dislike the name and the controller, the more appealing it gets to others!

[Huw Dawson]

You know what? The controller of the Wii compared to the controllers of the PS2 and XBOX is like in the days of the best computers just having a keyboard. Then the PCs came along with their snazzy mouses and hey presto! A star was born. This controller is my favorite thing about the Rev/Wii, just because it is so DIFFERENT. That's where the money is on this console. Their capitalising on the earliness off the 360 in comparason to the PS3, so, if I'm right, they'll release at about the same time. As gamers look at their slightly dusty 360's and wonder whether to grab a PS3 (because, basically, you'll be getting the same games on both.) Out comes this contraption. Gamers think "Hmm... it's cheaper than a PS3 and will have games I can't play on the other two, and the controller's different." It'll attract non-gamers by looking so different and out of the ordinary, so they'll be tempted to buy it. Parents will see all the nice, simplistic mario games (*dodges shoes thrown by angry audience*) and so they'll buy the console.

Nintendo are onto a winner here. And anyway, when you say stuff like "It'll only have mario games and stuff you can't play on other consoles." Look at games like Harvest Moon   and Timesplitters. Fantastic games, and you can usually only get them on Nintendo's consoles.

Yay for originality! 

[ManicMatt]

Timesplitters, usually only on Nintendo's consoles?? WRONG! I'd go as far as to say that the very first timesplitters was a PS2 exclusive title.

And Harvest moon was on the PSone, and not so long ago got ported to the PS2 from the gamecube.

Pick better examples man! But controller point taken.

[vict0r]

Even tho i'm totally with Matt here, the first harvest moon were actually on the snes.

[Alynn]

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/fanboy.html

Thats all I have to say about that, it really doesn't look like a game system for gamers, it looks like a game system for non-gamers...

and if the PS3 is HDTV only, I'm still set, that was the main selling point for me anyway, because my PS2 looks outstanding on my HDTV using just RCA connections, I can't wait to see what the PS3 looks like using HDMI... I'll probably pee on myself.

For me it's always been about the games, which is why I always bought Sega systems back in the day, because Sega made the games that were the most fun. Now Sega makes games for just about anyone, so when I switched consoles I went for the one that had the best games in my opinion... and that was Sony....

And you have to admit, most Nintendo games are based for a younger audience, and in fact Nintendo has said as much.

And Nintendo makes their money off handhelds, not consoles, that is just icing on the in the black cake.