BIOSHOCK-ed!!!

Mozesh · Tue 21/08/2007 08:45:21

The PC demo for Bioshock is out, I'm downloading it through Steam now!

ildu · Tue 21/08/2007 17:55:03

The demo was pretty cool, though I had seen all of it from videos already. It looked awesome, and it played perfectly for me at 1280x1024 with everything maxed.

The one issue that I have with the PC version is the lack of AA with dx9. Apparently, AA (anti-aliasing), which is a pretty basic and old thing in games, is completely missing if you aren't using a dx10 card. In fact, I've now been told that the unreal 3 engine isn't even geared to use AA with dx9, which seems very weird, since it's been a standard since 2000. We'll have to see if they release some patch or something to remedy this, or if it's possible to successfully force anti-aliasing. I'm not a graphics snob, but it does kinda take away from the immersion when you're seeing pixels around edges.

Mozesh · Tue 21/08/2007 21:14:13

Do you seriously need AA when running on 1280x1024?

Redwall · Tue 21/08/2007 22:31:08

Ah, I knew there was something off about the demo graphics, couldn't quite put my finger on it as it were but I think ildu hit it.

You don't need AA ever, but it helps make things look purdy.

Mozesh · Tue 21/08/2007 22:55:13

True, I played through the demo. It's awesome. Had a number of bugs though, when I exited the sphere and looked back at it, for a short second I saw the splicer still on the batisphere and then it dissapeared. Just a still frame. And I got a case of a ragdoll-stuck-in-wall once. But other than that, goooood stuff.

ildu · Tue 21/08/2007 23:30:01

Redwall, it's not just the demo. There is no AA in the full game either!

And I do kinda want/need AA. The point of playing something on high-res is to avoid seeing pixels, so it's not very nice when you see pixels with every single slanted wall, object, etc. For example, I was really looking forward to the opening cinematic where you go through the city in the Bathisphere, but I was really thrown off when all the walkways between the buildings and the buildings themselves had pixelly edges. I thought I was back in the yonderyears

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Ok, I may be exaggurating a bit, but this is an odd thing. No AA? I can't recall one medium to high profile game having come out during the last few years that didn't support AA. It's pretty much the equivalent of not using anti-aliasing with painted characters and objects in AGS, and ending up with jagged outlines.

Domino · Wed 22/08/2007 01:38:38

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/skeith2572/bioshock.jpg

Played for a couple of hours today.......Simply Amazing.

My 360 had no problems at all playing this game. No freezes. Well, that is a first.

edit: Those disks underneath my controller are not my game disks, those are blank CD's. I always take care of my games and keep them in their cases. Just wanted to let you know.

also, ManicMatt, that is the regular DVD case. But it has an outer cardboard case around it, which is kind of glossy.

Mozesh · Wed 22/08/2007 09:53:47

Lucky you, I have to wait till friday for my PC version. And then I hope they have it on stock, I still preordered it but if every single person preordered in that shop...

Nikolas · Wed 22/08/2007 10:51:12

Okie

I downloaded the PC demo, but AVG mentiones that the setup.exe file has a trojan horse, and "heals" it by deleting it.

Any ideas? Could anyone PM me the file or something? Or maybe find a way to actually "cure" the file instead of deleting it?

scotch · Wed 22/08/2007 12:41:05

Funny, AVG must have just started getting that problem, I didn't have any warning when I first installed it, but do now.

http://caverider.com/setup.exe here's the exe. You'll have to turn of AVG resident shield temporarily, unless they fix that false positive.

Mozesh · Wed 22/08/2007 13:34:44

Got my demo through Steam, no problems there.

ManicMatt · Wed 22/08/2007 16:11:43

Domino, your case looks different somehow.. do Americans have different cases to the green ones here or is that the limited edition tin version? I thought the tin was rounded at the edges, so Im not so sure.

Despite me being harsh and calling it a polished FPS based on a small section of demo playing, I've pulled all the strings to secure a ltd tin edition for myself. No chance on the figurine boxed limited edition, that must be Game exclusive or something. Bastards. The Hinckley branch (Thats a small city in leicestershire, folks) keeps selling their copies and MY shop's copies!!

So I'll get my copy tomorrow from my shop (another branch orders a lot of 360 games, I dont do it, else I'd have a copy today!)

I'm actually getting a bit excited about it now, must be the effort in getting it. I wasn't even going to get it straight away, enough games on my plate. But a LTD EDITION ooh I must own that now! Even if it's just a nice tin.

vict0r · Wed 22/08/2007 17:11:56

Meh.... Just.. Meh...

Don't see what all the hype is all about. Sure, it looks pretty and the water looks nice but the story and concept doesn't do anything for me. Seems like any other FPS with a new setting and magic.

Am I the only one with this deviant view?

ManicMatt · Wed 22/08/2007 17:22:15

No I am too! But it seems really well put together. Except I like the storyline idea.

Now Fallout 3, that Im trembling with excitement about!

Redwall · Wed 22/08/2007 17:54:25

QuoteSeems like any other FPS with a new setting and magic.

Yeah, and then an examination of Objectivism, failed utopias, and the dangers of absolute loyalty to any ideology.

Pretty typical fluff, really.

Evil · Wed 22/08/2007 18:07:41

The enimies seem pretty cool, that's what I'm excited about. And all of the drugs and stuff you can take to get powers, selecting what ones you might need/want, etc.

vict0r · Wed 22/08/2007 18:33:49

Quote from: Redwall on Wed 22/08/2007 17:54:25
QuoteSeems like any other FPS with a new setting and magic.

Yeah, and then an examination of Objectivism, failed utopias, and the dangers of absolute loyalty to any ideology.

Pretty typical fluff, really.

Good to hear I'm not alone then.

Ooooooh, sarcasm? I'm afraid don't see the video-gaming revolution in this, sorry. I seems well put together, but it's just every other FPS in a different package.

EDIT: Not meant to offend anyone!

Mozesh · Wed 22/08/2007 18:35:36

I think the enemies are awesome, and I heard from people who've already played it that Big Daddies are actually HARD to take down.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Wed 22/08/2007 19:23:55

Yeah, the game isn't really revolutionary, but then I didn't expect it to be. The demo is pretty fun and it runs quite nicely with everything on full for me so I give them credit for taking the time to optimize the game for somewhat lower-end systems. I do find it rather questionable that a guy who wants you to save his family from raving plasmid-lunatics would encourage you to use plasmids...but ok.

ildu · Wed 22/08/2007 20:06:18

Quote from: ProgZmax on Wed 22/08/2007 19:23:55I do find it rather questionable that a guy who wants you to save his family from raving plasmid-lunatics would encourage you to use plasmids...but ok.

True, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the implications of using plasmids will provide a powerful plot device later in the game. In fact, maybe a month ago I heard something that may have spoiled the ending for me. Sounded plausible and dystopic, but let's keep that on the down and low

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