On Raspberries and P3n1ses

[Gamer_V]

Whatever'll be done, it should be done quickly, because we wouldn't want the people in 2007 miss their chance for an award.

[LimpingFish]

Best Previously Undiscovered Form of Music?
Best Use of Long Words?
Best Use of a Largely Unreadable Font?
Best Use of a Brown Palette?
Best Blinking Animation?
Best Unsolvable Puzzle (The Still Life Cookie Award)?
Best Use of "The Secret of" in a Title?
Best Zip Archive Compression Ratio?
Best Copyright Notice?
Best Game Breaking Script Error in a Completed Game Announcement...Game?

And so forth...

[Emerald]

Those seem kinda random...
They should probably be awards that people will actually appreciate (not the receiver, but people in general)

Everyone knows that getting 'worst music' is due to having bad music (even if you cunningly disguise the title), and they can appreciate that X game has sub-par music. But 'best use of a copyright notice'? It just makes no sense. Might as well give an award to every game that's released ("Best game with the name 'The Forgotten Element'", "Best game written by Yahtzee this year")

[CaptainBinky]

"Best game with the name 'The Forgotten Element'"

I quite approve of that award, actually. 

edit: Actually on a relevant note... as much as jokey naff games are all very funny and everything, we don't want to be encouraging them too much do we? What sort of impression would it give first-time browsers about AGS when they are browsing the games list?

[lemmy101]

I also think this will not exactly encourage people who are conscious they might not be the best artist or dialogue writer to make an AGS game for fear of being publicly embarrassed, as light hearted as it is and awarding joke games, you'd have to be careful it was clear it was a joke.

[CaptainBinky]

Well, I think it'd be alright as long as you only included self-nominated entries.

[Emerald]

Well, I think it'd be alright as long as you only included self-nominated entries.

Then again, it seems like there'd be some fear of being seen as a narcissist if you don't nominate yourself for every award in the list.
I mean, very few writers/musicians/artists are 100% satisfied with their own work. Most of them hate it by the time they finish.

And if it's true that your game has terrible dialog/music/art, you're probably not going to want to admit it, unless you really don't care about making games anyway (which I imagine most people do, being on this forum).


Point is, the awards will hardly be very significant, because the "worst music" award will only ever apply to the people willing to admit it, which means there'd probably be 20 games with worse music out there, which defeats the purpose of the award...

[Akatosh]

Best Use of a Largely Unreadable Font?

Yahtzee's getting enough awards as-is... 

[LimpingFish]

Those seem kinda random...
They should probably be awards that people will actually appreciate (not the receiver, but people in general)

Yes, but we're always going to have a problem if we use standard "Worst Gameplay/Graphics/Music", because authors may decide they've been slighted and the boards will become clogged with people defending this and that.

Using silly awards means nobody takes it to heart, and the P3n1s becomes a fun bit of nonsense. Well, that's the way I would look at it.

The P3n1s didn't specify any particular fault in the winning game, just that the game itself was a worthy recipient.

Possible suggestion:

The P3n1s Awards are announced. Forum members vote for the nominees; not in particular categories, just games they feel are worthy, for whatever reasons. A panel, chosen randomly or otherwise, takes, for arguments sake, the ten highest rating nominees and makes up awards based on one, or more, of each game's most obvious faults.

Therefore, "I ARE R0B0T!" takes the "Best Headache Inducing Use of Orange" or "Best Mis-spelled Object Name", and "The Secret of Hobo Pants" takes "Best Courageously Obscure Puzzle".

Using "Worst..." may open a can of angry, forum clogging, worms.

[Nostradamus]

I still think instead of people nominating their own games which as you said is problematic, a better solution is to have open nomination BUT give every game maker whose game has been nominated the right to VETO his game's pariticipation, simply if the game maker chooses to veto his game is removed from the nominations list. The awards co-ordinator will PM each game maker whose game is nominated, inform them their game is nominated and ask if they approve or veto. Simple and effective.

[Emerald]

BUT give every game maker whose game has been nominated the right to VETO his game's pariticipation

That might work. If it's done privately, you're spared public humiliation, and it also allows you to convince yourself that someone nominated your game simply because they didn't like you, and nobody would have voted for it anyway


It's just that, like I was saying, what's the point of even having an award for "Best Headache-Inducing Use of Orange" - it's meaningless. It's not an achievement to be proud of -  it's barely mentionable. And just because 'best' is placed in front of it, doesn't make it any less of a kick in the bollocks...

[Nostradamus]

The point is having fun, having a little laugh. Making a parody of an awards show basically. All for fun. Not meant to be a real achievement and not ment to hurt anyone.

[deadsuperhero]

I think I'll just nominate "Who Killed Who?" For this one, it's at: http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=32047.0

[m0ds]

You win them all. Well done  :

PS, shouldn't these "side" awards be called the Blueberries?

[Kweepa]

But 'best use of a copyright notice'? It just makes no sense.

Oh no?
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=23530.0
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=20794.0
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=24921.0
Pay attention, 007.

[Radiant]

I still think instead of people nominating their own games which as you said is problematic,

I agree.

Vetos would work, as would restricting the award to the "joke games" category.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

All in all, doing away with the p3ni5 as it was was a silly thing.

Not unlike renaming "Ten little niggers" to "Ten little indians" to "And then there were none."