New Indiana Jones film

[Phemar]

Hey, just noticed there's a new Indy film in the works.

Just wondering if anyone knew any info about it?

Here's the IMDB page.

Looks like Indy is searching for the burial ground of Ghengis Khan! The chinese seem to be the main antagonists searching for the holy cross, drenched in the blood of Jesus Christ, which seems to be the holy relic in the this film. It apparently grants invincibility to it's owner or something.

Lucas said he's looking to put Shia Lebouf as the main character and have Harrison Ford with a role like Sean Connery's in The Last Crusade.

[m0ds]

Meh. Well I suppose I should just be glad it wasn't Aston Kutchner in Indy 4! The plot that you say, Ghengis Khan etc - would be awesome, no doubt.

[Gilbert]

Hehe but what is the connection between Ghengis Khan and the Holy Cross? Did he nail himself on it so he could resurrect centuries later as an invincible mummy zombie?

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Actually if these information are correct I'd expect something like this:

The Ghengis Khan thing was just a short opening sequence, that the good tomb raider young Indy meets the evil Chinese tomb raiding troopers in the underground tomb, where they have intense fights and have to dodge ancient futuristic traps at the same time. After that incident comes the main plot of the movie, that the good and evil race against each other to find the Holy Cross.

Things go formulaic. No?

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Go go evil Chinese!

...What?

[IndieBoy]

I would rather have CGI Indy to be honest.

[Anian]

I probably shouldn't be talking about this, but I plan on kidnapping and tortouring Shia (maybe Michael Bay as well), PM me if somebody wants join in. I just hate Shia, he's not cool in any possible way...unhless I was like a 12 year girl or something.

Actually watched 4th movie yesterday (watched 'till the end this time) and the movie just doesn't have any of those Indiana Jones moments that make the movies cool, comedy was flat and overused, plot was just overly stupid. All in all it just didn't have the spirit of the other 3 movies.
Besides that I thought they tried doing the Indy turns into his father in Skull movie, so it wouldn't be that different.

I would rather have CGI Indy to be honest.

Anything is better than Shia, ANYTHING!

[m0ds]

Yep. As a big Indy fan, I fear they really botched who their "next Indy" would be. As you say he's the "get girls interested" element. Oh well, whatever, what's done is done. I guess all we can do now is sit back and watch him become Indiana Jones.

The best bit in Crystal Skull, to me, was the part where they remenised about Marcus Brody and then ran into his statue not long after. The rest was a temple of ballz.

[Snarky]

They probably picked Labeouf because he was in Transformers, which inexplicably was a big hit (mainly with boys).

[m0ds]

Yep, and I suppose of all the generic young male hollywood stars he is one of the "hardest" looking. It's just a shame they never have long hair anymore. The original John Conner (T2) had long hair and so did the original young Indy (River Pheonix). And I don't know why but I still think both those characters & actors are dead cool. But La Buff is just too generic, gormless, boring, meat-heady. Ford is Indy to me, always will be - and in the same way I just don't care for Die hard 4 or Terminator 4 or Indy 4 I'm sure I won't be overwhelmed by any fifths that come out either. But still, maybe they WILL build on what sucked in Indy 4 and make it work for Indy 5, and Indy being the Sean Connery of Indy 5 WILL still make it quite a fantastic relationship to watch on screen. I hope! All in all just so long as they ditch the studio work and use next to none CGI and actually put the actors through some hardship (like the first 3 films) it could be a masterpiece. But no, it'll be full of CG, costumes that never get dirty and jungles that are really just sound-stages. GAH

In a world where companies are constantly promoting "average joe" to make movies it starts to become clear to a lot of people where they cheat in films and stuff. The more I understand film-making the harder it is for me to appreciate stuff like CGI cheats and sound-stages. I really, really look forward to the day they spend the CGI budget on unbelievable life sized props and effects and I always thought the sequel to Indy Holy Grail would BE that, but nope

[Snake]

I completely agree with you, Mark.

Yes, the scene when they reminisce about Marcus is no doubt my favorite.

What almost ruined it for me almost imediately was the use of the prairy dogs... CG of course... in a Disney animation movie sort of way. And then they KEPT USING THEM AS REACURRING "CHARACTERS".

Then when we get to the jungle scene we meet those huge ants. BAH. Obvious CG animation AGAIN. And then what puts the icing on the cake is the jungle scene when Shia's swinging through the vines and there's 100's of those fucking CG ANIMATED MONKEYS ALL AROUND HIM! Stop with the fucking CGI already! You've RUINED the fucking movie, not to mention the movie's plot itself.

Oh, and the clincher:

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All through the movie, especially after the atom bomb scene, which I loved (and hated at the same time for obvious reasons), I kept thinking, please, for the love of god, please don't make this alien related...
Well, knock my nuts, butterskin, that's what it was.
Big spaceship flying up and back into outerspace in the end...

There's so many different ways this movie could have gone for the better, and then come to find out that Spielburg didn't even WANT it to have ANYTHING to do with aliens...?

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I also hated the sand trap scene. They through in the snake just for the sake of referencing... gah.

I liked the movie mainly because it was another Indy movie. But I hated it for all the reasons already discussed above my post and the too much unecessary use of CGI.

I'm with IndyBoy, I'd much rather see an animated Indy movie next. But with real animation, no CG. But will I put the next movie on Netflix? No doubt.

[InCreator]

There are moments you "wish they'd rather use CGI". Such as when someone moves a photo cutout towards the camera...



But in general, pity Harrison Ford got old before more movies were made. After seeing Kingdom of Crystal Skulls I lost belief in screen future of Indiana Jones.

[Chicky]

Rubbish! You cannot fault the CGI in the indiana jones trilogy, you try and do better!

Kingdom of the alien bullshit sucked so bad. I refuse to accept it's existence.

[Atelier]

Yes, as soon as I saw the aliens and the rotating rock temple ship or whatever it was, it lost me. Then again Shia Laboeuf is in Holes so it hasn't lost me entirely! I just hope they don't make his leather jacket and comb combo some kind of trademark though.

The best bit in Crystal Skull, to me, was the part where they remenised about Marcus Brody and then ran into his statue not long after.

My favourite part was when the screen went black and all those names appeared.

[Mr Flibble]

I think I properly lost touch with Raiders of the Secret Alien Thing during the jungle chase scene, and the following "flesh eating ants can form prehensile tools out of themselves" fiasco.

I think the best thing that could happen for the franchise would be for it to die.

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

I agree with everything Flibble said except I lost touch with Crystal Skull the moment I read the plot synopsis.  Pure adulterated rubbish with a side of mediocrity.  It just furthers my theory that all of the creativity of the 80's-early 90's directors got sucked out by some evil Hollywood device bent on remakes and series-destroying sequels.

PROVE. ME. WRONG.


Also, anyone who would go to see shia as the star of an Indy vehicle is about as dumb as dirt.  I'm sorry, but if you're reading this Mr. Dirtdumb then I suggest you watch the original trilogy and then come back and apologize to me for ever suggesting that a sequel with Shia as the star would be a good thing.  Just end the damn series, for the love of the Ark of the Covenant let it end!

[Ryan Timothy B]

I'd watch it.  I wouldn't 'pay' to watch it.  But I'd definitely watch it.
Doesn't mean I'll like it.

[Snake]

Exactly, Ryan. No matter how much I'd hate it, I'd still sit there like a penis head and watch it. Just like S Club 7.

[monkey0506]

Stop with the fucking CGI already!

Better get with the times and start using PHP already! :

As far as Indy goes I understand the argument that KoCS (read as: COCKS) wasn't really "up-to-par" with the originals but honestly could we have expected anything more? As has been said, the glory days of movie making are dead and gone.

It's all about remaking the same horrible bad movies in a worse way now. That and thoroughly destroying everyone's beloved movies from yesteryear with overly sufficient, literally as much as can possibly be forcibly crammed into a measly 25 FPS, doses of human, and in some cases ape, feces reprinted with the next sequential digit following the title of the film!

There are still some jewels released from time to time (such as Pixar's UP, amongst others), but unfortunately for all of us those are becoming fewer and further between with every passing year.

Oh and just to shake things up by actually posting something on-topic here, I too am of the disposition that if they release it, I'll watch it. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for Spielburg to take it away.

[SSH]

Interesting question: which was better: The Mummy 3 Or IJatLotCS? Both had their dire moments. The Mummy 1 is certainly better than IJ4 but probably not as good as IJ1-3

[Anian]

The jungle scene is just...well they're cutting through it in the begining, but suddenly there's a chase scene and that small jungle trail they we're cutting turns into a three lane goddamn highway. A HIGHWAY!
And that swinging with the monkies is just too ridiculous even for a Indy film and in ti we saw Nazis melting to the bones and endless mines for riding in a mining cart etc. but this is just...I can't believe somebody wrote that in the script and thought "Well this is pretty cool"
Oh, and going into that crypt - they enter in a dark stormy night but exit like no more than an hour later and it's a birght sunny day...things like that piss me off, I know that happens but to literally change the time and weather while it doesn't really affect the scenes is stupid.

And all that mystery that used to be so fun to see (especially in the Raiders) is here just skipped over - oh, there's "return" written on the wall, well must be a map on the floor, aha, he meant return the head, but where is the head, aha, it's this map of a tomb somewhere in the jungle, but the profesor didn't find the skull actually or did he...what the f***.
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On a more pleasant topic, I liked some of the Young Indiana Jones adventures and wished that they made the 4th film earlier and made Sean Flannery as the son. He didn't have the exact coolness of Ford, but I still always felt that he was like Indy but not so sculpetd with life yet and that's perfect.
They're probably going with Shia and I hate them for it.

[Snake]

Get with the times? I'd rather join an underground movment.

Using CG for the little things that can be hidden, like say, a quick spirt of blood, don't bother me. It's when it's used for things that can be done with a little more work and makeup.

I'd much rather see photo cutouts infront of a green screen and midgets swinging around on vines in ape constumes than it be done in CG.

CG ruins it for me especially when they use it for movement... it's just too, I don't know any other way to describe it but, Disney-ish. I'm not watching The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lava Girl here, I'm watching Indiana Jones.

Take out all the actors that were used, replace them with highschool drama-club students, keep the script the same and we've got a badly written fan film in which the writer had only HEARD of the Indy films.