Apartment - Criticism welcome.

Started by KodiakBehr, Sun 15/07/2012 00:18:23

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KodiakBehr

[imgzoom]http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s347/KodiakHPS/Apartment320p.png[/imgzoom]

Grateful your thoughts about this room.  I haven't quite decided what to do with that blank space on the right wall yet.

Anian

Generally I like the style, but a few things bug me:
- why mix the line colors? Stuff like the bed is outlined with black while other stuff is outlined with a darker shade of the fill color.

- are you sure this perspective is right? Something is off.

- also textures are not evenly detailed, for example books or that picture on the wall have a lot of detail while other things are just one color fill.
I don't want the world, I just want your half

EchosofNezhyt

Quote from: KodiakBehr on Sun 15/07/2012 00:18:23
[imgzoom]http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s347/KodiakHPS/Apartment320p.png[/imgzoom]

Grateful your thoughts about this room.  I haven't quite decided what to do with that blank space on the right wall yet.

The room at least to me has to much white, I think you should add more texture and shadows to everything. (But this might not be the style your going for.)
The perspective on the right side of the room looks a bit wierd but I'm not very good with perspective and either way as long as the room looks good I don't consider it a big deal.

All in all though its looking really good.

KodiakBehr

[imgzoom]http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s347/KodiakHPS/Apartment320pEdit2.png[/imgzoom]

Thanks for the early feedback.  Is this any better?  I've eliminated the black outlines, and tried to make the texturing a bit more uniform.  That shelf and that door was really throwing the perspective off (I think), so I made some adjustments there.  I've done my best with adding some shadows, and by noting the second source of light coming from the bathroom, but I'm not sure where else they should be present.  Oh, and obviously I've re-painted the walls.

EchosofNezhyt

Looks better to me. Ill try and give you somemore suggestions tommorow.

reagel

Overall, I like your clean and simple style.

One problem with the perspective is that we can see the top of the door, but we can't see the top of the bookcase or fridge. You need to decide where the viewer eye level is. It seems like it might be at about the level of the top of the curtains. If this is so, we need to be able to see at least a sliver of the top of the bookcase and fridge. If you want the viewer eye level to be lower, then you will have to change the door so that the top slopes up rather than down towards the viewer (similar to how you've handled the dividing wall).

Lighting: I actually like that you've kept it pretty simple, but I feel like some of the smaller objects may be missing their shadows. When I zoom up to 4x, then I can see that you have put some subtle shadows around the fry pans, for example, but they are mostly invisible at 1x, so you might have to emphasize them a little bit more. If the light in the room is coming from the two overhead ceiling fixtures, I would also consider emphasizing that by putting a small circular shadow around where the metal attachment meets the ceiling, to show that the light is coming from them and is directed down.

The view outside the window: this is tricky, because it appears to be twilight outside, and it's hard to contrast that light level with the artificial indoor lights. If you want to emphasize the sunset scene, you could lower the horizon slightly so that it's more immediately readable to the viewer and darken the buildings in contrast. But I could also see keeping this half-light look as well.

Overall, though, I think it looks great!

KodiakBehr

It's funny, I never noticed the door/shelves perspective disparity, but now that you've drawn attention to it -- I can't UN-SEE it!  That'll get fixed right away.  I think I'll adjust the door, rather than everything else...but I can experiment.

I'll bring out the shadows a bit more.  The light is intended to be coming from the window, but I can see that's not entirely clear, and it ignores the presence of the curtains.  I'll make it daylight outside, instead of dawn (what I was going for originally), which should also help.  Maybe I should also "turn off" those overhead lights.

Very helpful.  Thank you!

Tramponline

#7
The scene itself is very good, but I suppose the right side of your scene isn't properly aligned to it's vanishing point:

[IMGzoom]http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5862/apartmentold.png[/IMGzoom]

I tinkered with your scene somewhat to illustrate what I mean (got lazy at one point though and stopped :wink:)

[IMGzoom]http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8131/apartmentnew.png[/IMGzoom]

My variations are not really accurately aligned either - hopefully just enough to give you a rough impression.

Additionally, perhaps you might want to place a character in the kitchen area, to have an approximation of various object proportions towards each other and in reference to the character (...doors were a bit off, a tad too wide and not quite tall enough, taking your kitchen area as reference... etc.)

Other than that, great scene really! I like it a lot!

KodiakBehr

[IMGZOOM]http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s347/KodiakHPS/Apartment320pDemo2.png[/IMGZOOM]

Here's the latest iteration.  It's daytime, but some light doesn't reach some parts of the room...that said, the bathroom illuminates a narrow stretch.  Liked the lights "on", more than "off".  I'm glad the reviews are positive!


EchosofNezhyt


Anian

#11
The main thing that kind of bugs me is that I don't know if you intentionally tilted wall in the back (where the door and windows are) and the wall is not parallel with the horizon, because I think that makes the scene "difficult" to draw in the correct perspective...or more difficult than it has to be anyway.
I don't want the world, I just want your half

reagel

I'll just say that the room is really starting to take on some 'character' too, with how you've filled out the bookcase and the diploma on the wall. Nice details!

NickyNyce

The one thing that bugs me now is the red chair. The left arm rest (if you were sitting in it) should face more to the left and not so straight at the player, it might also be a bit too big  :-\

This might be just because of the arm rest though

Sane Co.

The one thing that I bugs me is the drapes over the window. You should, I feel, put a little shading under the ruffles in the curtains, as it makes it feel a bit weird to have it all the same color it would also give the curtains more depth than what they have right now. I feel like they should be a bit more translucent letting in and out a little more light.

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