The Matrix - POST ALL MATRIX-RELATED DISCUSSION HERE

[TheYak]

OKay, you make one little error in a post at 4 AM and people jump all over you for not knowing the name of the guy from the Reading Rainbow/Star Trek-TNG.

[DGMacphee]

Wasn't that the big guy who has the mouse in The Green Mile?

[TheYak]

Yep, that's the one.  His big start was in a sit-com called, "Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire"

[Barcik]

You mean Halle Berry?

[Dmitri]

a) I love how much we suddenly care about getting the actor's name right

b) I loved the green mile

c) where the hell did Denzel Washington come from? he wasn't in starwars or matrix

d) I love Denzel Washington's work

e) I'm amazed at how upset sci-fi fans were at Star Wars... I can understand it though, since I have seen some old sci-fi, it was more "This is what could happen" Jules Verne type stuff.  But I imagine that back in those days sci-fi would be seen as an elitist type of media only for those who wanted to think. I'm not trying to defend star wars, I must admit that a lot of post star wars sci-fi I've seen was centred around planetary disasters or good guys vs. bad guys.

But I say that sometimes we just want entertainment. In the matrix (specifically 2), they tried to make it too entertaining by packing it with cgi and boring fight scenes. Not only that they made a haphazard attempt at being thought provoking. This put the viewers in the wrong mind set and this is the result, a 7 page topic bitching about or praising the matrix. I think this is because we went in expecting more than entertainment, much like the old school sci fi people were expecting more than entertainment from star wars.

f) I like Rocky 1 and Rambo 1, movies for entertainment sake

g) Point e is all over the place, I don't know the point I was trying to prove, maybe I was just sharing an observation, probably best if you ignore it

[DGMacphee]

Wait!

I remember now!

It was Kevin Bacon!

[Dmitri]

Why don't we just say Macaulie Caulkin and leave it at that eh?

[AGA]

If, as I seem to understand that you are, you're talking about the huge black guy (John Coffey) from Green Mile, his name is Michael Clarke Duncan

[Robert Eric]

No, Kevin Spacey.

[DGMacphee]

I thought Kevin Spacey played the Terminator!?

[Matt Brown]

no, that was the dude in gladiator!

[Evil]

Tom Cruise?

[Trapezoid]

No, that was Steve Buscemi.







...what?

[Fuzzpilz]

Quit fooling around. We all know you're talking about Joseph Beuys.

[Shattered Sponge]

  On the live-action Eva thingy; James Cameron was supposed to have bought the rights a few months ago, but the initial speculation was that he was going to make a movie with a similar premise, and he only brought the rights to avoid another Harlan Ellison/Terminator-style fiasco (which was originally the reason he bought the rights to Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita, but it turns out that he's probably going to make that after all).
 It's also interesting to note that End of Evangelion was originally supposed to contain quite a substantial live-action segment, but Anno just couldn't get it filmed exactly as he wanted, and eventually the footage which was shot went towards a short-ish live-action dream sequence and one of the trailers.  There's a website somewhere which details what was originally intended to happen, if anyone's interested...

[Czar]

Ooh i love the early seasons of Fresh Prince...

and its not Joseph Beuys,thats his name backwards, his real name is Goran Višnjic

[Pumaman]

Ok, I'm not going to try and analyse Reloaded, but having just seen it, my comments are simply:

The rave/shagging scene - wtf?? As many of you seem to agree in this thread, it was totally unnecessary and went on far too long.

Fight scenes - nicely choreographed, fun to watch, but they all tended to go on for too long. If each scene had had a bit cut out, bringing the film down to say 90 minutes instead of 2 hours, I think I'd have preferred it.

The other thing I noticed was the Terminator 3 trailer - should be good, it'll be interesting to see how they make Arnie look hard, being aged about 70 as he is now.

[Privateer Puddin']

i believe hes about 55 ;P

[Barcik]

And I believe T3 would suck horribly.

[Privateer Puddin']

i guess it all goes down to what every one wanted to happen in the next terminator, if they disagree, they most likely wont like it