Is Chrono Trigger the best RPG?

Captain Mostly · Sat 16/08/2003 10:04:51

Lands of Lore was a bit of a let down for me. It was just too happy-clappy. Sure, it's worth playing, but Dungeon Master is just better in every area (except the graphics, which many people complain about. I have to say though, I never fell to drawing up maps of the identicle-looking dungeons, as I found I could remember my way around anyway! And I wasn't even in the scouts! I was so proud of myself. and I wupped that dragon's ass.)

sum-41 · Sat 16/08/2003 12:37:23

:)Hey Punch, those sound really good. Would I need a SNES emulator or are they for a different console

I will allways love the snes graphic rpgs more than the 3D ones of today. Did anyone play Chrono Cross? Apparently, it's the sequel. Love to find out how good it is.

Keep posting, we're digging up some good games here.

True- there is no best. Just wanted to know how many people thought it was in their opinion, and if not, what they thought was. Thanx-keep 'em coming.

Punch · Sat 16/08/2003 13:00:47

Gargoyle's Quest was on the Gameboy, GQ2 was on NES and Demon's Crest and Tales of Phantasia were SNES.

- Punch

sum-41 · Sat 16/08/2003 13:47:45

:DThanx! Now have demon's crest- v.impressive game, but not RPG- luv it anyway!

Captain Mostly · Sat 16/08/2003 16:18:20

Heimdall 2 (possible spelled a little wrong) is an excellent EXCELLENT RPG. I forgot about it before, but it's utterly stunningly good. Not as good as DM, but a very comfortable second place in front of everyone else...

Hobbes · Sat 16/08/2003 16:21:53

And also: Download Betrayal At Krondor. It's freeware these days and actually very, very good.

I lurve that game.

sum-41 · Sat 16/08/2003 17:05:17

:)Thanks hobbes- but is it a ROM? I can play roms on my mac but not PC games.

Hobbes · Sat 16/08/2003 17:09:51

It's a PC game...

...doesn't Bochs function on your Mac?

sum-41 · Sat 16/08/2003 17:14:18

Downloaded a ROM of 7th saga today, and so far (5 mins) it is great, especially with enhanced graphic smoothening!(Is that a word

).

Sorry hobbes, but what is BOCHS?

Cap'n Mostly- have downloaded DM2 for Mac and its great. Do you recommend that I get the first too?

Hobbes · Sat 16/08/2003 19:53:22

Errr... try looking for Bochs somewhere on the internet. It's a x86 emulator. It allows you to run Windows or Ms-Dos.

Captain Mostly · Sat 16/08/2003 20:26:31

I'm bidding for a copy of DM2 on e-bay at the moment, as I've not played it yet (although I've craved it like m0ds craves the blood of virgins). But DM 1 is a masterclass in what made RPGs on computers WORK. The origional may not be as sophisticated as the sequil, so you might get pooped off at that, but it's a slice of history that still tastes as sweet as it ever did (eating the brains of man-eating screaming mushrooms? DM DID IT FIRST!!!)

EDIT:
It's also available as a tiny download on the underdogs (whatever their address is these days) along with a version of Chaos' Revenge (the origional, but not-at-all well known sequil, which is so hard I can't get out of the first room, although I'm willing to bet it's quite good...))

sum-41 · Sat 16/08/2003 20:32:56

:-\Thanks, Hobbes, but I can't set it up.

:DHey Cap'n Mostly, check out http://dmweb.free.fr/ !

Captain Mostly · Sat 16/08/2003 20:39:15

YAY! I'd forgotten about that site! It's too cool (although so many poilers!!!)

Mind you DM2 is the best case for the BADNESS of japanese-ification of games. See the contrast between the amega version and the PC j-friendly artwork, and chew your own teeth out at the ARRH! WHY SO STUPIDLY CUTE?!?!?! feature.

Hobbes · Sat 16/08/2003 21:16:56

Why can't you set that up?

I've never used Bochs before, but it came with my BeOS installation... and having installed BeOS on a x86 machine, I could just boot back into Windows.

But, given, the program isn't very userfriendly.

CheapAlert · Sat 16/08/2003 21:25:26

Quote from: Punch on Sat 16/08/2003 13:00:47
Gargoyle's Quest was on the Gameboy, GQ2 was on NES and Demon's Crest

They aren't RPGs, they're "upgrade-yourself-as-you-go" platformers like Mega Man X. Why would an RPG last 6 hours anyway?

Nethack is the best RPG, 'nuff said.
http://www.nethack.org

Nellie · Sat 16/08/2003 22:16:17

Although Planescape: Torment sticks in my mind more because of it's brilliantly unique setting, I have to say Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn is a better RPG in my opinion.

Aside from the hugeness and variety of the quests and locations, the brilliantly written story, and the clever 'stronghold' quests idea, the fantastic NPC system is what really struck me. To be able to choose from such a variety of characters to accompany you, and then see them communicate with you, with each other, individually respond to important game events, and even follow through a love story, is simply brilliant. It brought a whole new level of personalising your game experience to the genre.

P:T easily sticks in my memory more than BG2 due to its startlingly originality, but for me on every other level (plot, gameplay, personalisation, variety, replay value) BG2 is the better game.

Captain Mostly · Sat 16/08/2003 23:08:58

"nethack"? how very Kieron Gillen.

earlwood · Sun 17/08/2003 00:16:17

Oh, You kids :

..nothing holds a candle to runescape..The graphics are well done or is the fighting animation great..but there is plently of things to do to keep you busy for well over 3 years.

Punch · Sun 17/08/2003 04:47:45

CheapAlert: The first two were RPG, with the action scenes done platformery. The problem comes in where you draw the line. Is 'Zelda' an RPG or action-adventure? I'm willing to call it an 'action RPG' and stick GQ in there with it.

- Punch

Captain Mostly · Sun 17/08/2003 07:15:33

I almost got really into runescape, but I REALLY couldn't be bothered to build up my mining skills, let alone any of the armour-making stuff or baking. Or fishing. I mean, why bother when I could stand at a rock-face for hours and hours in real life!?!

It's certainly addictive for a while though, and if you've got patience I guess you'd find a reasonable amount of depth. But you could probably get a better MMORPG if you coughed up a little cash...