Actually American English is closer to that of 200 years ago than British English.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Farlander on Thu 09/02/2006 13:54:12People were injured in the Poll Tax demonstrations in the UK, and in the Miner's Strike and on many other occasions. Does that mean that every miner and anti-poll-tax person in the UK is a violent extermist? Of course not. People get attacked over football matches for goodness sake, all over Europe every week!
So, a riots who caused 20 "fatalities" can be labelled as "non-violents"? Mobilisations in Spain when the "not to War" stuff were stimated in 15 million people in the streets (not me). And 0 people were wounded. That was a non-violent crowd. What you can see now in Damascus, Islamabad or Baghdad is not.
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Be HONEST and post here what would you post if the riots were caused in Germany, by nazis, burning mosques and causing "fatalities" because a satyrical magazine in Turkey had published 12 cartoons of Hitler. Please, POST WHAT WOULD YOU TYPE IN A POST ABOUT THAT. And then compare with the "polite" posts you're writing about the Islamists stuff. Can't you see that you aren't being honest?
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The anti Bush stuff is ok, but you gotta be consistent. Remember the threads about the war in Iraq? How many people was there deffending the peace? Mr. Colossal, DG MacPhee, Andail, CJ, Anarcho... As far as I can see no one is here deffending your position, because they are CONSISTENT. I am sure that they will agree with the fist part of your stalement ("We have annoyed the muslims..."), but not with the second ("therefore, we can understand what they are doing").
QuoteI would feel a lot safer if Iran didn't have any nuclear programme. However, I don't think there is any moral high ground against it that Europe and the US can argue from. Its basically a matter of "We don't want anyone new to have it and we'll punish you if you try, unless of course that would be too complicated as with Pakistan and India and Israel and North Korea"...
It's ok to have stickers with "Nuclear? No thanks" But if Iran wants to have nuclear tecnology and there are high probabilities that this techs will work for making nukes, the correct position is to say "no" again, and not being comprehensive with them just because "they are people who has been annoyed by the americans".
QuoteLet me see, you're encouraging a religious person to be intolerant? Ã, :o
It's ok to be christian. But it's not logical to be tollerant with some other religion when your own religion is being attacked in foreign countries.
QuoteI do denounce opression of women in any country. I don't see what that has to do with attitudes towards these cartoons. They were annoyed at the blashpemy against muhammed in drawing him at all more than any one cartoon that may have been critical of regimes oppresive to women. There wouldnt be all this fuss if it was a cartoon of just any old Arab guy oppressing a woman in a burqua...
And it's ok to be feminist... So, be consistent and denounce the position of MILLIONS of women where the Wahabism or Sharia is strong and their freedom is severilly cut.
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You are supposed to be a peacifist, but if you go on with this "understanding" about the riots you'll finally be a) Unmasked as just an antihegemonist who just wants "peace" when one of the side attacks, or b) A naive with a an absolute innocence with the muslim reality.
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And I can say almost with 100% of security that it's option b, and that makes me love you more. But I really really hope that you don't ever reach a position in the scottish government.Ã,Â
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And now I think I am going to abandon this debate because I honestly think that everybody, except those with absolute innocence, agrees with me. I honestly think that I have won and, whereas you'll go on gaining love because of your ultra-tolerant attitude, everybody dissagrees with you, and I like you, and I don't want anybody to deeply dissagree with you.
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