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Small minority? Which photos have you seen? I've seen groups of 3,000 people or more...

And from that photo can you tell how many of them are being violent? You didn't read what I said.

I doubt it'll be that long until we see them again...

n00b departures are like busses... you wait ages for one and then its not the one you want...

It seems that games with "Legend", "Lagoon" or "Fountain" in the title are much awaited but take a very long time...

and get Monkey Wrench done TOO!

I have to say I admire some our you guys restraint (if you are being honest with yourselves). Anyway, Squinky, even if it wouldn't annoy you so much, how about the last guy who left your correctional establishment... how would he react? Maybe it was a guy who just got out of jail who caused the fire in the embassy... it certainly was a guy on parole who dressed up as a suicide bomber in the London protests.

Well, a lot of people are in Jails simply because of bad judgement ability or impulse control issues....I can agree on that, but it seems to me that this facet of your argument equates the muslim populace (those who were involved) to criminal thinkers?

No, as I said... it only take a very small minority of angry and violent people in an angry but peaceful demonstartion to make the whole thing look violent.

Any chance of Ctrl-Shift-1, Ctrl-Shift-2, etc. opening the module HEADERS?

I have to say I admire some our you guys restraint (if you are being honest with yourselves). Anyway, Squinky, even if it wouldn't annoy you so much, how about the last guy who left your correctional establishment... how would he react? Maybe it was a guy who just got out of jail who caused the fire in the embassy... it certainly was a guy on parole who dressed up as a suicide bomber in the London protests.

I get what you are saying SSH, but I just simply disagree with you.

Can we test this... could you post a photo of a close family member?

My teacher also confirmed that to her knowledge, there isn't a bible figure who hasn't sinned, in the Old Testament.

This is why Jesus was the Paschal lamb: everybody has done something at some point that hurt someone else. Christianity is supposed to be the "good news" that we're forgiven, not that we are perfect. But then loonies get carried away about what it is exactly that we're supposed to be forgiven for:

"I need to be forgiven for my homosexuality"
"no, I'm gay and I find it offensive that you think that that is a sin"

but you're forgiven for it, anyway.... so why do you need to ennumerate exactly every little thing that you screwed up on? This is why I'm not a catholic, 'cause it just doesn't make sense...

Make sure there is always straight line from your bottom knuckle, through your wrist to your elbow. This way, the tendons will not rub against the carpal tunnel wall and cause the inflammation that gives you the pain. It may help to get a chair with arms or a wrist-rest, but not necessarily.

Violence is bad and is only justified in true self defence. If everybody of the thousands who had protested at the Danish embassies in Syria, etc. had weapons with them and intended to attack the embassy with fire etc, don't you think that the damage and casualties would have been much higher? Yes. Everybody wthere was angry but not everybody was violent. Because some violence happens, we all assume that everybody there was involved. But if I go to a football match and some rival fans have a punch up, it doesn't mean that I was violent.

And Squinky, that's not it... it that they did the same personal attack to nearly every citizen  of your country, then apologised for it and then some other people said they shouldn't have apologised. It's that last bit that would make me most angry, and the same happened here: riots only after the RE-publishing. And the muslims will "get over it" too, but in the meantime some of them might get very angry.

Well, hang on... the only deaths over this so far have been protestors.

And you really can't see how someone deeply offending someone closer than a family member might make an individual angry. And then if you do it to whole countires full of people how there might be people angry enough to get violent.

It's all very well to incite this and then say "oh no, but  you shouldn't get angry and hit, I'm telling teacher," but thats what bullies do in school playgrounds and the bully and the bullied both know who is really at fault, even if the teacher does get the bullied one into trouble.

But you really don't get it. To some Muslims, Mohammed means more to them than their own family. Which is I gave the example of someone photoshopping a picture of your mother doing a sexual act with a dog: you're telling e that burning a flag is more offensive to you than this. To muslims this is PERSONAL.

I think you don't undderstand how offensive these pictures are to Muslims. Imagine that a paper had published a picture of your mother with a dog, but then apologised. Then, a bunch of other papers say that they shouldn't have apologised and republish the pictures. Right, now imagine they had done something so personal to every single person in Spain, supported the right of Britian to Gibraltar and mocked the "Invicible Armada". Now imagine how people might feel about it and that maybe one or two were violent thugs anyway and used it as an opportunity to throw some molotov cocktails ina situation where they were unliekly to be cuaght. Not that what those people would do is right, but its hardly surprising.

Now, consider the race riots in Los Angeles. Did anyone say they should deny those black people protesting American citizenship? No? Now, compare to Paris.

I don't condone violence, but if you understand where people are coming from then maybe you can work on the causes of things like this rather than just knee-jerk agaist the "symptoms".

Well, no, because you can only have 20 overlays at once anyway...

Well... If they go on behaving this way next invassion will be done without any futher pretext.

In other words "We have the power to invade you, while all you can manage is to burn one building". I can see why you see the Muslim position reprehensible.

It's people like Jack who ruin the name of Christianity.

Yeah, he's right up there with Urban II

Much better to invade a whole country and overthrow its rulers on the pretext of defense against WMD. What was I thinking?

Rick, if you think like that, then the terrorists have won! 

I'd like to point out that the Muslim kingdoms before the crusades and in Al-Andalus in Spain were far more accepting of other religions than their contemporary Christian countries were. The only penalty put on non-Muslims was higher taxes, which compares to what Christians were doing to Jews and Muslims at the time very unfavourably.

It was only after the Christians started holy wars on Muslims that they got the idea to do it back. And Arab countries must get pissed of with the West moralising about democracy etc. with things like the US and UK kicking out the democratic government of Iran in the 50s, Guantanamo Bay and in recent days all the pressure on the election winners in Palestine. Freedom to Vote - unless we don't like who wins...

Maybe the real difference between the Muslims and the US/Europe, is that we are more subtle... we keep our nasty bits better hidden. The Muslims do it out in the open. Which is more honest?

Unlike the way you jump on other people...

I guess you're right. Sometimes defending my faith and beliefs means I need to rough'n some people up.

I remember when Jesus said that....Oh wait, He didn't. Because he wasn't crazy.

Or did he? John 2:12-17

but surely time-travelling is against nature, Eric, therefore you are amoral!

One thing I like about Jesus, as described in the Bible, is that he hung out with those the religious authorities thought amoral and he didn't try and stone them, as others did. He also kicked some butt in the temple when he was annoyed.

If I were the devil I'd make the self-righteous make fools of themselves and their religion...

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