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Interesting how the response to this has differed from the guy looking for ideas about Christian games...

This may  be relevant: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic120989.html

Overlays are always behind GUIs, so use a GUI with a high ZOrder instead.

The trouble is, some opinions have a raised status becuase they occupy a position of power: i.e. Pick-of-the-Month chooser (i.e. me) or the Review Panel. Those opinions are more likely to be seen than others and so one might get disproportionately annoyed by criticisms there.

Unfortunately, my attempt to raise funds with a share issue failed, so CJ now owns 55% of the Royal Blog of Scotland.  :'(

Nacho, if any minister of a church I went to was such an idiot, I'd move church (and point out to him the problem and bring it up with his superiors if possible (many churches I know are independent)). As for Rome, I'm not likely to be in a situation where what Rome thinks is relevant.

Regardless of whether anyone thinks its a sin or not, Christianity is supposed to be about forgiveness. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" (and so why pick on a gay person, specifically?) and "whosoever believes in me shall not die but have eternal life".

But, but... I want to keep arguing. 

After careful consideration, the only option that remains is for me to re-capitalise SSH's blog by taking a 70% stake in it. This will give me full voting rights in the future management of the blog, and is on the condition that SSH helps normal members out by loaning them blog space.

I accept this offer, but..

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I'll pay myself a large bonus first, BWUHAHAHAHAH

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To contribute with an attack of my own on poor ol Nacho: Shouldn't a skeptic dismiss the concept of free will until it's been proven?

Indeed, and the arguments that Nacho (and moreso Khris) has put forth would indicate that while he may want to be a Sceptic, he is actually a Strong Atheist. As I said before, the sceptic and weak atheist arguments are easier to defend and so many Strong Atheists lie (or are in self-denial) about their true beliefs because they can't actually justify them. At least I acknowledge that I can't PROVE there's a God, so my intellectual honesty is greater than theirs.

Again, you discuss how I say what I say, not what I say...

Actually, I discuss what Khris said..

The system brain uses for taking decissions is still very unknown and I can't really give an appropiate answer... I basically think that we have free will just in a degree...

So, to summarize... I don' t know how people thinks.

But the thing is, if you believe that people have some kind of soul/spirit/personality/free will other than what genetics or chemistry or circumstances dictate then you admit that there is more than just physical reality. There seems to be a stark choice between being a fatalist material philosophy (i.e. only the physical is real and we have no free will: our whole lives are inevitable) and believing that there is the possibility of something metaphysical that can influence what goes on in our brain. And if there's a possibility that something outside of physics happens inside our heads, it suddenly makes the whole possibility of something metaphysical outside of our heads possible, be it Jesus, Allah, Buddha or something else.

I guess you have to ask yourselves if the world would actually be better without your local church, and the families that go there on Sundays? The peace that shows on the faces of the people coming out of there and then go home and have lunch, all together. Is it that bad? Or, was it that bad for you?

While I freely admit that there are some churches out there that have services that make the prospect of an eternity in hell seem like a holiday, there are others that are not like that (like mine). 99% ( ) of the atheists here were forced to sit through such services in their youth and that has left them with a deep-seated fear and loathing of church and a desire to rescue people from such a thing. Fine. But they've extrapolated from their limited experience to the whole world and such generalisations are always foolish.

There's tons of evidence pointing towards NO. And zero pointing towards YES.

Once again you prove that you simply do not understand what the word evidence means. A mafia boss giving his testimony in a court is still evidence EVEN IF YOU PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE IT. Richard Dawkins giving his in a court is still evidence EVEN IF I DO NOT BELIEVE HIM. etc. There is not zero evidence, just evidence YOU don't find convincing BUT OTHERS DO.

Apparently the definitive answer is: it varies

Nacho, Khris, do you think "1" exists?  Not the symbol "1" in whatever alphabet or notation, but the concept of 1? You cannot sense it in any way. You can sense the notation of it and you can sense 1 of something but the actual number itself is entirely abstract.

Also, do you guys believe in free will or are the decisions we make a consequence of chemicals and electrical impulses in our brains? Is there such a thing as the mind (your identity) as distinct from the brain (a physical thing)?

My taking on of Dualnames' sub-prime exposure has crippled my blog and now I need a bailout from the Pumaman Reserve.

That's interesting, because in Austria pepper shakers usually have only one hole while salt shakers have more of them. Don't know why, though.

OH noes, I started a religious debate! 

Bought off? So if I start a blog too, I get monies?

You'll get exactly the same payout as Dualnames

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. 

Sylvr, I spotted a mistake: the salt should be the one with a single hole.

An important piece of information that you don't mention is her age or location. In England and Wales the age of majority and marriage without parental consent is 18. In Scotland the age for both is 16.