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You seem to be taking this little war of yours in too many directions, Stan.  Narrow the field of criticism or you may learn as the Nazis did how ineffective fighting on multiple fronts is.

As Godwin's law has been invoked, I will stop reading this thread... 

So, have you moved on to complaining about the "Games Showcase" on the front page instead of Pick of the Month now?

Why not tell us quickly which bits of the AGS site and forums you like. It might be quicker. Don't worry, we'll assume the rest is garbage.

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AHHHHH! I just worked it out. Stan is Yahtzee in disguise and is planning an 800x600 Trilby game and wants to make sure it gets due prominence

I like it hard.

There has only been one demo ever picked as POTM, so FOY is the exception. It is also not just "the first bit of my game that i've made so far" like most demos, but an entirely separate mini game (and longer than many short games in the DB). So, FOY is exceptional. The Fallen Legend demo doesn't meet either of these criteria.

As for 800x600 authors I respect, how about Radiant, Alkis, VinceXII for starters

It seems like you're trying to give the community here a shape up. I don't understand the point of all these posts you are making. If you want something to happen, lead by example. Encourage people in the GiP thread yourself. Make a high resolution game yourself.

Its a universal rule that you'll get a lot more respect for your opinions if you've walked the walk and not just talked the talk.

Game authors who've done a release get more respect on the AGS forums, in general. Just imagine how much more weight you'll carry if you could say "MY 800x600 game gets waay more downloads than everyone else's games" rather than "I think you should do THIS".

This is a good point that I didn't take in account. In that purpose it really serves well. Speaking of AGS Awards, seems like this AGS Awards page is not updated anymore, is there a replacement for this?

Try The AGS Awards Wiki page

I know that the portals that sell Dave Gilbert's AGS games use SoftwarePassport to put a secure wrapper around AGS. This encrypts the whole executable and lets users play for an hour only. After that they have to pay to get a key that unlocks the game again and lets them play for longer. However, this software is expensive so Dave doesn't use it for downloads on his own site.

6.4% is that a larger chance? Every game is a game. For the "pick of the month" they shoudn't be devided!

I'll explain it in simple terms.

Of 17 800x600 games, I have chosen 2 to be pick of the month. That is 6.4% of all picks of the month BUT 11% of all 800x600 games.

Of 480-ish other games I have chosen 29 to be pick of the month. That is about 6% of all games.

Therefore 800x600s are over-represented. Like in the same way scottish voters are over-represented in the UK parliament because constituencies cover lower populations in Scotland. But there are still less Scottish MPs than English MPs becuase England has a much bigger population than Scotland.

Next you'll be complaining that there are no 1024x768 games as pick of the month. There's a good reason for that...

Spoiler

NO ONE HAS EVER RELEASED ONE YET

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So I think that you admit that there is discrimination for 800x600 games. What are these percents? Every game is a game.

I suggest in the main page of the site to put a message:
"Do not make game in 800x600. They have a smaller chance to be included in Pick of the month section."

I just proved that they have a larger chance.

I admit that I discriminate for good games. I really don't understand how you can read what I said as discriminating against 800x600. If you have a specific non-commercial, released game that you'd like to recommend for POTM, please suggest it.

You know, sometimes my 5-year-old says "Daddy, why haven't you got me a drink, I'm thirsty" and that's the first I hear of it. My response is usually "I'll get you a drink as soon as you ask nicely". Hey, a five-year old needs to learn to deal with the issue rather than question someone's motives. Fair enough, they're a kid. How old are you?

Or CJ could just add support for the PhoneHomeCheckLicence("licenceserver.agscommercialgames.com") function 

Use the "run in a window" option in  setup.exe

The small quantity of 800x600 games is not a reason not to include them in pick of the month.

I'm not saying it is, but it would be unfair for them to be proportionally overrepresented. I have chosen 31 games for pick of the month and 2 of these are 800x600 (I forgot META, too).  That makes about 6.4%. 17 out of 500 games that are user-rated makes about 3.4%. Therefore 800x600 games are actually already over-represented in my choices.  


And as for special sections, the AGS Awards are voted for by forum members. Why not check out the winners there?

It looks like this game graphics are drawn by 6 year old child...

I hope the child welfare folks aren't reading this...

Don't anyone tell them about this, then:

I think Stan hasn't realised about the 2x and 3x filters in the game's setup.exe, or the larger resolution options in older games.

I've updated the game ranking pages to include the latest ones (only games with a user rating are included, btw): http://ssh.me.uk/ranking200810.html

It also now has a resolution column so you can see that 17 games out of about 500 are 800x600. Which is maybe why you don't see many in the pick of the month. (The only one, I think, has been the farm)

If you have suggestions for good games (of any resolution) that could be pick of the month, I'd be glad to hear them. I have over the history of picking received a total of about 5 suggestions, so more are welcome.

For earlier discussions on this, please see: this thread and this thread and this thread from before I started doing it
also see the explanations as to why games to chosen in my blog

As for sorting by rating, why not try: my AGS-games-DB-derived page

And as for higher resolutions, I don't think the OP mentioned that at all...

To answer the question from the other thread:

'Why games like Al Emmo, Diamonds in the Rough, Picaroon, Cosmos Quest don't appear in "Pick of the month"?'

Commercial, Commercial, Not released, Not got around to it yet

Or, for another comparison:

versus

hmmm, i see what you mean. I havent ignored your arguments in the issue, but they're not compelling for me. I hadnt decided to keep it the same at the start of this thread, but I wasnt convinced by anyone's ideas for changing the process.

And Yahtzee did send me his Trilby .CHA file for the awards ceremony this year, so he's not entirely disinterested.

Well, I never asked if it would be a good idea to add a further layer of complexity to the voting process. I did ask about categories and there's been a useful discussion there. I've taken on board a number of points, and probably will skip the remake/parody section, now, for example. Similarly the IRC ceremony. Because I didn't like your suggestions doesn't mean the whole thread was a waste of time.

I personally think that the AGS forums are one of the best forums around.

Maybe it barely exists because of the quiz?