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#1961
Schools today don't rely solely on books, but frequently use digital learning assets, either on computers or tablets. My kids certainly use a lot of this. During the Corona Lockdown this will be even more important.

Some of the games in the AGS database are clearly intended for kids and/or educational purposes. Have anyone here used AGS games in schools? Did they work well?

Even some games not intended for this could be useful in education, I think. In Norway, the norse poem Thrymskvida is on the lesson plan for the 17-year olds. This text may be a bit difficult, so why not supplement it with allowing them to play Thrymly Disguised, for instance? (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2332-thrymly-disguised/). Likewise, maybe there are some games that could be useful in history class due to their setting, or based on literature on the curriculum.

One area where such games could work well, I think would be Religion. While most games in that vein here play off the known facts and mostly use Christianity as a backdrop, I think a game where the goal is to perform a ritual in the prescribed manner could work. (Or would it be too boring?) And I'd play a game about Buddha even as a non-student. In Scandinavia, noone would raise an eyebrow about this, but maybe using games to teach religion would be controversial other places?

Maybe I am too optimistic and today's youth won't accept the retro graphics or game mechanics of AGS or adventure games? What do you think? Have anyone already done this? Do you have ideas about games that could work, perhaps for different age brackets? I know lots of teachers who are always on the lookout for that little something extra to spice up their lesson plan.  ;)
#1962
Is the country/geographic location important? (For instance a dictatorship where surveillance listens in on phone calls.)
Did the murderer also take/hide/destroy the journal?
Is this set in present time?
Is the murder method important?
#1963
Quote from: lorenzo on Mon 31/08/2020 12:57:36
Quote from: heltenjon on Mon 31/08/2020 12:31:03
Or Marcel Marceau?
He did speak in of the greatest gags from Mel Brooks' Silent Movie!

Agreed, that's the funniest part of that movie!  (laugh) And he talks in Barbarella. But he's most famous for pantomime and silence. (Otherwise the gag wouldn't work.)
#1964
Was Gwen poisoned?
Was Gwen the intended target?
Is the phone call related to Gwen reading the journal?
#1965
General Discussion / Re: Where is everybody
Mon 31/08/2020 14:06:18
Quote from: Pogwizd on Mon 31/08/2020 13:42:13
Quote from: BarbWire on Mon 31/08/2020 12:34:28
What I find strange is that some games receive rave
reviews, when they first appear in the Completed Games
Announcements, but these very quickly fizzle out.

Nobody writes any follow ups, after playing the game,
reporting on likes, dislikes, what could be improved etc.

I often play AGS games long after they were released when they already are on the second (or further) page of the forum. So when that happens I don't really want to bump the topic back to the top. But that's me.

I second that, but I get that the developers wants the feedback, so perhaps we shouldn't be afraid to bump it. I tend to stay away from the threads concerning games until after I've played them for spoiler reasons. And if I'm a beta tester or proofreader, I don't really feel it's my place to give a rave review on the site - but maybe I'm being too cautious.
#1966
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 31/08/2020 05:56:38
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 31/08/2020 05:06:15
Google’s not helping.

Any silent era actors who never spoken on film? Most of the famous ones eventually acted in ‘talkies’ but I want to know if there is a well-known example of a silent era actor who’s voice was never recorded for film.

It’s for a Twitter joke for which the moment will have long passed by the time an answer is found:

“Who would narrate your life story?“

Why not just go with Harpo Marx?

Or Marcel Marceau?
#1967
AGS Games in Production / Re: Sleuth
Mon 31/08/2020 12:14:08
Quote from: monkey424 on Mon 31/08/2020 11:27:35
Can anyone suggest a category between 'incompetent' and 'rookie' ?

Stumbling?
#1968
Was Gwen murdered by the person she phoned?
Did she find out something about herself by reading the journal?
Was Gwen's father not her real father?
#1969
Quote from: Snarky on Sat 23/05/2020 12:44:56
I thought I'd try to revive one of my favorite forum games, introduced by Kumpel in this thread. The aim of the game is to solve a crime riddle:

  • The narrator gives a short description of the case they have in mind and the problem that must be solved
  • Each case only has one correct solution, determined in advance
  • To help you solve the case, you can ask any yes/no question; the narrator will only answer "Yes", "No" or "Maybe/Irrelevant"
  • Each of you may only ask 5 questions between each update by the narrator
  • Whenever you think you have solved it, you can propose your solution, and win the game if you are correct!

While the sheer playfulness of this thread is all good, and we don't have to strictly adhere to Snarky's rules set in the first post, I suggest that we try to use the max of 5 questions at a time as a rule of thumb. I think we may get more participants that way.
(Otherwise we may lose them to the threads discussing adventure games.)
#1970
(nod) (nod) (nod) Solved (nod) (nod) (nod)

Barney was unhappy when he found out that Greta was having an affair, and he decided to end it all. He wrote a suicide note and made the rope ready to hang himself. Then, all of a sudden, Greta's lover walked in. The balls of this guy! In a rage, Barney attacked him. With surprise and adrenaline on his side, Barney managed to subdue the loverboy, forcing his head into the noose and hoisting him up. Like a one-man lynch mob, he made sure that swift justice was served. The man was struggling wildly, kicking in the air. A random kick hit Barney in the head, sending him right into the edge of a table. And there they were, two dead men for Greta to discover when she came home.

Over to the next one with a case ready!
#1971
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 31/08/2020 00:12:29
Did the lover somehow manage to kill Barney while they, themself, were hanging?

Yes!
#1972
Updated answers above.
#1973
You are so very close to the solution! I'll nudge a bit:

Did the non-Greta dead person kill Barney?

Did Barney trip over the body and hit his head? (No, but close)
Was an object used to kill Barney? (Not directly, at least.)
Did the other victim kill Barney deliberately?
#1974
Quote from: Mandle on Sat 29/08/2020 23:02:17
Did Barney wrap loops of the rope around the lover's neck and then jump off the chair, hanging himself and choking the lover to death at the same time with his own hanging body weight?

No, but I wish I had thought of that! That's an even better solution than the correct one.
#1975
Case #65

In the home of Barney and Greta we find two dead bodies and a note on the floor.
What happened here?


YES
Are Barney and Greta human?
Are the dead bodies human?
Did either Barney or Greta write the note?
Is Barney one of the dead bodies?
Is the note a suicide note?
Was the note written before the two people died?
Are either of the dead bodies the victims of murder?
Did Barney write the note?
Is jealousy involved?
Did the non-Greta dead person kill Barney?
Did Barney kill the non-Greta person?
Is Greta still alive?
Did Barney really intend to kill himself?
Were Barney and Greta a couple?
Is the unknown victim an adult?
Did the unknown victim kill Barney?
Was the second victim Greta's lover?
Did Barney think the second victim was Greta's lover?
Did Greta have a lover?
Did Barney kill the other victim deliberately?
Were both bodies found in the same room?
Was either victim strangled? Technically, yes.
Was Barney planning to hang himself?
Was the other victim strangled with a rope?
Was an object used to kill the lover? (See above.)
Was the lover fully dressed?
Did the lover come home looking for Greta?
Did he surprise Barney during his suicide?
Is Barney's and Greta's home a house?
Did Barney hang the lover?


NO
Is Greta one of the dead bodies?
Did Greta write the note?
Is the second victim female?
Did Barney kill Greta?
Did Greta kill Barney?
Did either of the dead people actually commit suicide?
Did Barney write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Greta?
Did Greta write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Barney?
Did the non-Greta dead person write the suicide note to appear to be from either Barney or Greta?
Did either Barney of Greta write the suicide note to appear to be from the non-Greta dead person?
Does Greta know what really happened?
Were Barney and non-Greta lovers?
Did Barney make a promise to leave Greta?
Did Barney and the second victim die the same way?
Does Greta benefit from their deaths?
Is there a fourth person involved?
Did the killer force Barney to write the note?
Did Greta announce to leave Barney?
Was Greta at home when the two victims died?
Was the second victim's death caused by the first person's death ?(Regardless of who died first) A bit unsure what you mean here.
Was Barney's plan to kill Greta instead of the other victim?
Did Barney AND the other person both poison a meal they were sharing? (Great suggestion, though.)
Was the second victim there to kill Barney?
Did Barney and the second victim die in a duel ?
Did the other victim kill Barney deliberately?
Was either victim stabbed?
Did Barney invite the lover for a "chat"?
Did Barney know the lover?
Was Barney's plan to kill him?
Was Barney's plan to implicate the wife in the murder?
Every line in Mandle's solution.
Did Barney die BEFORE the other victim died?
Was Barney strangled?
Was one of the deaths caused by poison?
Was one of the deaths caused by a gunshot?
Was one of the deaths caused by gas?
Is Barney one of a pair of conjoined twins?
Was Barney hit over the head with a heavy object?
Did the victim get strangled by hand, i.e. manually?
When Barney killed the other victim (which should be clear), was he already
so badly injured that he knew he would die?
Was an object used to kill Barney? (Not directly, at least.)
Did Barney surprise the lover? (has in he come early home and found him there?)
Was the lover wearing only underwear?
Is Barney's and Greta's home an apartment?
Is it a boat/ship?
Did Barney trip over the body and hit his head? (No, but close)
Had the lover somehow caused a fire to start that burned Barney to death?
Did Barney drown?
Did Barney wrap loops of the rope around the lover's neck and then jump off the chair, hanging himself and choking the lover to death at the same time with his own hanging body weight?
Did the ceiling collapse on Barney?
Did the lover strive to make something collapse or fall on Barney?
Was the lover overweight?


IRRELEVANT OR CANNOT BE ANSWERED THE WAY THE QUESTION IS POSED
Are Barney and Greta still alive?
Were the two victims related to each other?
Did they look like each other ?
Did the dead body fall on Barney and trap him somehow? (Perhaps, but Barney was already dead by then.)


Quote from: Riaise on Sat 29/08/2020 19:25:44
OK, so Barney strangled the lover with the rope he was going to use to hang himself, but was not significantly injured in the process. Nor was he poisoned or die from some kind of gas inhalation.

You sum it up almost correct!
#1976

Case #65

In the home of Barney and Greta we find two dead bodies and a note on the floor.
What happened here?


YES
Are Barney and Greta human?
Are the dead bodies human?
Did either Barney or Greta write the note?
Is Barney one of the dead bodies?
Is the note a suicide note?
Was the note written before the two people died?
Are either of the dead bodies the victims of murder?
Did Barney write the note?
Is jealousy involved?
Did the non-Greta dead person kill Barney?
Did Barney kill the non-Greta person?
Is Greta still alive?
Did Barney really intend to kill himself?
Were Barney and Greta a couple?
Is the unknown victim an adult?
Did the unknown victim kill Barney?
Was the second victim Greta's lover?
Did Barney think the second victim was Greta's lover?
Did Greta have a lover?
Did Barney kill the other victim deliberately?
Were both bodies found in the same room?
Was either victim strangled? Technically, yes.
Was Barney planning to hang himself?
Was the other victim strangled with a rope?
Was an object used to kill the lover? (See above.)
Was the lover fully dressed?
Did the lover come home looking for Greta?
Did he surprise Barney during his suicide?
Is Barney's and Greta's home a house?


NO
Is Greta one of the dead bodies?
Did Greta write the note?
Is the second victim female?
Did Barney kill Greta?
Did Greta kill Barney?
Did either of the dead people actually commit suicide?
Did Barney write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Greta?
Did Greta write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Barney?
Did the non-Greta dead person write the suicide note to appear to be from either Barney or Greta?
Did either Barney of Greta write the suicide note to appear to be from the non-Greta dead person?
Does Greta know what really happened?
Were Barney and non-Greta lovers?
Did Barney make a promise to leave Greta?
Did Barney and the second victim die the same way?
Does Greta benefit from their deaths?
Is there a fourth person involved?
Did the killer force Barney to write the note?
Did Greta announce to leave Barney?
Was Greta at home when the two victims died?
Was the second victim's death caused by the first person's death ?(Regardless of who died first) A bit unsure what you mean here.
Was Barney's plan to kill Greta instead of the other victim?
Did Barney AND the other person both poison a meal they were sharing? (Great suggestion, though.)
Was the second victim there to kill Barney?
Did Barney and the second victim die in a duel ?
Did the other victim kill Barney deliberately?
Was either victim stabbed?
Did Barney invite the lover for a "chat"?
Did Barney know the lover?
Was Barney's plan to kill him?
Was Barney's plan to implicate the wife in the murder?
Every line in Mandle's solution.
Did Barney die BEFORE the other victim died?
Was Barney strangled?
Was one of the deaths caused by poison?
Was one of the deaths caused by a gunshot?
Was one of the deaths caused by gas?
Is Barney one of a pair of conjoined twins?
Was Barney hit over the head with a heavy object?
Did the victim get strangled by hand, i.e. manually?
When Barney killed the other victim (which should be clear), was he already
so badly injured that he knew he would die?
Was an object used to kill Barney? (Not directly, at least.)
Did Barney surprise the lover? (has in he come early home and found him there?)
Was the lover wearing only underwear?
Is Barney's and Greta's home an apartment?
Is it a boat/ship?


IRRELEVANT OR CANNOT BE ANSWERED THE WAY THE QUESTION IS POSED
Are Barney and Greta still alive?
Were the two victims related to each other?
Did they look like each other ?

#1977
Aha! You're making significant progress!  (nod) Answers updated above again.
#1978
Nope. (Updated list again.)

To help you a bit, I can add this:
Was either victim strangled? Technically, yes.
#1979
Case #65

In the home of Barney and Greta we find two dead bodies and a note on the floor.
What happened here?


YES
Are Barney and Greta human?
Are the dead bodies human?
Did either Barney or Greta write the note?
Is Barney one of the dead bodies?
Is the note a suicide note?
Was the note written before the two people died?
Are either of the dead bodies the victims of murder?
Did Barney write the note?
Is jealousy involved?
Did the non-Greta dead person kill Barney?
Did Barney kill the non-Greta person?
Is Greta still alive?
Did Barney really intend to kill himself?
Were Barney and Greta a couple?
Is the unknown victim an adult?
Did the unknown victim kill Barney?
Was the second victim Greta's lover?
Did Barney think the second victim was Greta's lover?
Did Greta have a lover?
Did Barney kill the other victim deliberately?
Were both bodies found in the same room?
Was either victim strangled? Technically, yes.
Was Barney planning to hang himself?
Was the other victim strangled with a rope?
Was an object used to kill the lover? (See above.)
Was the lover fully dressed?


NO
Is Greta one of the dead bodies?
Did Greta write the note?
Is the second victim female?
Did Barney kill Greta?
Did Greta kill Barney?
Did either of the dead people actually commit suicide?
Did Barney write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Greta?
Did Greta write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Barney?
Did the non-Greta dead person write the suicide note to appear to be from either Barney or Greta?
Did either Barney of Greta write the suicide note to appear to be from the non-Greta dead person?
Does Greta know what really happened?
Were Barney and non-Greta lovers?
Did Barney make a promise to leave Greta?
Did Barney and the second victim die the same way?
Does Greta benefit from their deaths?
Is there a fourth person involved?
Did the killer force Barney to write the note?
Did Greta announce to leave Barney?
Was Greta at home when the two victims died?
Was the second victim's death caused by the first person's death ?(Regardless of who died first) A bit unsure what you mean here.
Was Barney's plan to kill Greta instead of the other victim?
Did Barney AND the other person both poison a meal they were sharing? (Great suggestion, though.)
Was the second victim there to kill Barney?
Did Barney and the second victim die in a duel ?
Did the other victim kill Barney deliberately?
Was either victim stabbed?
Did Barney invite the lover for a "chat"?
Did Barney know the lover?
Was Barney's plan to kill him?
Was Barney's plan to implicate the wife in the murder?
Every line in Mandle's solution.
Did Barney die BEFORE the other victim died?
Was Barney strangled?
Was one of the deaths caused by poison?
Was one of the deaths caused by a gunshot?
Was one of the deaths caused by gas?
Is Barney one of a pair of conjoined twins?
Was Barney hit over the head with a heavy object?
Did the victim get strangled by hand, i.e. manually?
When Barney killed the other victim (which should be clear), was he already
so badly injured that he knew he would die?
Was an object used to kill Barney? (Not directly, at least.)
Did Barney surprise the lover? (has in he come early home and found him there?)
Was the lover wearing only underwear?


IRRELEVANT OR CANNOT BE ANSWERED THE WAY THE QUESTION IS POSED
Are Barney and Greta still alive?
Were the two victims related to each other?
Did they look like each other ?

#1980
At least you're eliminating theories...
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