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My first attempt at comedy. It's supposed to make fun of stereotyping in society, but in the end it's just a bunch of insensitive jokes and every day prejudices put together in a very retarded way just to make you laugh. Contains music by Anal Cunt (Am I allowed to say that here or do I have to put ** on it?) 

All rooms (6) and graphics made, just need to get it scripted.

Some screenshots. The story is too simple and dumb to deserve being explained, a "Southern Baptist Convention" member is bored and takes a walk downtown.

Thanks  A LOT for the info. No, really, A LOT. This is excellent.

The reason for why I more or less centered the project on 'the 20th century was the most violent' concept is because the teacher said he thought it was, and that it'd be interesting to discuss. I could say I disagree and base my presentation on that, but I think he's right. Specially after reading InCreator's reply. RickJ your advice was excellent (Specially the 2nd, it helped me structure better my whole project) and I'm writing it down on the sides of my papers to be better prepared.

I really appreciate the advice given here. When I wrote this post my project was going in a completely different direction and was more or less lost, and was too broad as you noticed (Which is why the teacher advised me to try to narrow down the concept to talk about) now I think I'll make a very good presentation.

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Although, when talking violence as part of our culture (trivialization of murder, virtual hedonism etc) the teacher said I shouldn't mention Columbine as it's a sensible subject.

Hello,

I just wanted to ask this as part of a class project I'm planning to make, but I don't know exactly how to hit 'the nail in the head'. Hopefully you can help?

What do you think connects violence with history, philosophy, technological progress, and cultural diversity? Is violence the connection itself? Then what is the importance of violence in man's nature? Think about that for a second:

The past century was the most violent in history, and I think the one where technological progress was faster- not even the middle ages, during which I'm pretty sure ignorance and xenophobia were common law, were so violent. Then is 'progress' the cause? Overpopulation?  Poverty? The US is as violent as Mexico in murder rates I think. So it is part of the culture? Both rich and poor countries with distinct cultures have committed genocide.

Basically, what I want to expose in my class is, why are we getting more violent the more we progress? The problem is, I have no idea how to answer that.

I was thinking on studying different statistics, comparing violence in countries like Germany, the US, and some african countries, across different times in history, along with the acceptance of violence in those countries at those certain times (Literature of the time)

Does violence grow exponentially with the population?

Thanks for any help.

thanks a lot! I think I might just finish this today (I was bored so I started working on a very small joke game)

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find it so...

I have an animation of my character walking to the right, is there a way to 'invert it" so it looks EXACTLY the same but walking to the right? Is it possible to do this in photoshop? thanks for the info.

I've processed this discussion so far, and I realize I was wrong, like Mr Flibble said, it'd be an struggle to put Emo as Romanticism, I would just be romanticising it.

The difference comes down to just one thing, like it's been pointed out: romanticism is about passion (and hence the political element, I suppose) emo, to me, doesn't have that, and it's more about feeling apathetic.

However, I'm still VERY puzzled by this, I mean, I'm pretty sure that a large portion of "emos" aren't just feeling they way they do just to follow a trend. Sure, many of them can be posing, but the reason many bands with lyrics like "I can't make it on my own, so cut my wrists and black my eyes" become very popular, must be that they're somehow saying what some people want to say. And I think that's a lot of people, and their reasons for feeling that way, should have a common origin, something's that going on with our society that either didn't exist or wasn't noticed 10 years ago.

In my opinion, at this point, no movement can be a "mass movement", because literally, the huge variety of movements and sub cultures that exist in the world today make EVERY culture a minority.

However, if we pick the Western World, and try to find a common denominator for all the subcultures/tastes/rituals/tendencies of it's high and middle classes, (the classes that generally are more educated, and thus represent better the feeling of their country) can we say we're going trough a romantic period?

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So, such things as hip-hop, emo etc , that are often called as lifestyles, are more like hobbies for fat western kid whose physical and emotional states are perfect, so balanced that the kid doesn't know what to do anymore and invents some emotional state or culture inspired by others. Because in nature, practical conditions do all the guidance. True people do not need to act out their emotional states -- they live it. 

I don't think so. Having no goals in life and feeling apathetic is enough reason to feel depressed => depressing music => liking it => imitating the band's wardrobe etc.

why did this get moved to general discussion? this isn't meant to be a discussion! i was just asking for help in preparing my class...

anyway thanks a lot. You can't imagine how useful all these stuff is.

-Nationalism: Like any American, some have it, some don't. Emos tend to have almost a "nationality" of their own. If they're alike, they tend to hang out.

You're right- i should have noticed this earlier: they do label themselves emo, after all.

-Idolizing the Human Body: Um, most people do this? It's called sexuality?
On an interesting note, though, emos tend to not like showing sexual characteristics sometimes, in order to APPEAR more sexual to their own kind. It's strange, but true. Some also crossdress, as is the case with my best friend.

True, thanks. I don't think it's important if they cross dress, it's just part of the fashion that emos use, and fashions can be anything. Just for the record I myself wear black tights often.

How do you figure 9.11 was involved with the creation of emo?

I haven't asked any emos "why are you emo", because I'm not going to get an answer like "9/11 made me realize the futility of life". The reason for why they see the world the way the do is, in my opinion, sub conscious, and only comes out with the lyrics of their music, that they identify with.

I don't really know how it started (I'm talking about the sub culture; not the music. I know there was a music sub genre at the end of the 80's called "emo" I think they're completely different phenomenons)  but since 9/11 made Gerard Way start My Chemical romance, I figure that's 1 reason. I mean, he couldn't be the only one who was affected like that.

By the way were you the author of that Urban Dictionary article? It's great. I'm going to use that. thanks

That one keeps cracking me up, whether it's referring to emos or any other subculture. Nobody is anti conformist, they're selectively conformist. Emos are conformist towards the emo 'style', punks are conformist to the punk 'style', metalheads are conformist to their own style.

Yes you're right, but I want to analyze what they stand for and where does it come from.

I agree, it seems to be particularly concerned with nature unleashed, you know, storms, winds and so forth.

What about emos? do you see any of that in the emo culture?

believe that this whole Romanticism/Classicism thing can, in the broadest sense, be seen kind of like a pendulum that swings back and forth. And I further believe that in general we are currently in a Romantic period. So I'd suggest that, yes, these kids dubbing themselves "EMO!!!11LOL" are a part of the current Romantic phase, but certainly not the whole of it.

That's true. I liked the way that sounds, I'm going to copy and paste that and keep it, my closing statement has to be something like that.

Just wondering, what would be "the rest of it"?

I listen to some music that could be called emo (MCR/Dashboard Conffesional) But i don't share any of these character traits that are being chucked about.

Then you're not part of the emo culture.

hello,

I think I could use your help and opinions, since they were extremely useful when preparing my "Alice in Wonderland in popular culture" class.

I have to prepare a new class, this time I can show a little video and use up to 60 minutes (Last time I had 15) I want to describe how the current dominant waves of thinking/attitude known as 'emo', constitute the re discovery of romanticism: pessimism caused by the 11th sept. attacks and school shootings at the end of the 20th century, and a overall feeling of being surrounded by violence.

The question is, how?

Romanticism was known  for these points:

    * Emotions over reason
    * Nationalism
    * Liberalism
    * Anti conformism
    * The self as imperfect, unfinished and open, surrounded by the opposite
    * Individualism
    * Appeal to dark, obscure settings, like the night
    * Sadness, solitude, melancholy

I'm sure these fit very well the emo attitude, except for nationalism. And I'm sure that emos do idealize the human body, thing that romantics didn't do.

The video I'll show is "Welcome to the Black Parade" by My chemical romance, as an anthem of these characteristics.

What do you think?

Also, how did romantics view fate and self determination? The same as emos?

As far I as I remember, Blair Witch was mostly about some kids wandering around an empty forrest.

But there was also the story of the woman accused of witchcraft, killed and returning to haunt the forest. (Remember the kids in the forest-  Blair witch 2) also the hermit being controlled by her to make sacrifices that would help her keep her powers (Blair witch volume 1, Rustin Parr)

Trust me a story with Blair Witch elements can mix with snuff photos and a few action sequences.

I do think it's a bit like Blair witch. Remember what happened to Rustin Parr and Elly Kedward in that story.

Thanks a lot for the input.

Hermits, cults, beheading? That's quite another story.

Why mix deep wartime atmosphere with B-movie-sque  horror cliche?

The whole premise of the game, being a "snuff game" is to have a plot like that. I don't think it's B quality, I was thinking it was more Blair Witch esque. The plot has to stay but I will try to make it more serious.

Why behead some old hermit based on superstition, anyway?

I think it makes sense. If you put a group of desperate people together, some of their friend dissapear and you tell them it has to do with witchcraft, they'll do something desperate.

There is loads of potential there - you've got men frightened that they are going to die. You don't need to add to it with crazy hermits.

You are right, Im wasting a lot of good material. That will be added later with dialogs.

Well, if you ARE keen to pursue the hermit thing, give the hermit a say. I'm sure the captain would not behead him without first questioning him. And I think "I think I've been bit by something" should be "I think I've been bitten by something"

True. I'll add that.

[Re-]watch Cannibal Holocaust

I'll look for it.... sounds like my kind of movie.



I'll add some changes later. Did anyone laugh when they first read it?

My ideal game is the first AGS snuff game.

Silent Hill (Facing own demons) + resident evil (Zombies, infection) + 3D backgrounds + American McGee's Alice soundtrack + 100's of color photos depicting beheading, rape, cannibalism, murdered children, shrunken heads, trench foot, torture, hanging, dead and desecrated nuns, mountains of naked corpses + every conspiracy theory you ever heard of + machine guns + Klansmen, all this added up making sure the plot doesn't make any sense at all, it just keeps getting weirder and weirder until you climax.

I'm working on it.

It's a flashback sequence where a character re tells his memory of a beheading of a man somewhere in Russia during ww2. I want to make an emphasis on the state of mind of this persona, a degenerate, deranged shadow of a human being, after spending months advancing trough the steppe with little food in terrible conditions, with no end to the conflict in sight; So please also help me improve my writing.

(There's a fade out & in between each paragraph and pic)




There was a feeling we had been marching forever. Everywhere we went we would hear the Russians had retreated leaving a wasteland behind them. We had been reduced to a handful of men in a matter of weeks, mostly because of diseases and exhaustion.



Nobody really knew where we were. Our captain didn't want to admit it but we knew he had no idea. Our supplies wouldn't last for long and the rest of the regiment had been left behind with no way to contact them. Maybe the commander had already taken the whole platoon as dead.

Everyday was an agony. Fights would start for the smallest reason. The cold made things worse. Some squad mates dissapeared overnight into a nearby tree line. We were furious and most of the platoon snapped when a squadmate said there was witchcraft involved; we had heard local fables about the swamp being cursed.

The locals told us about a hermit living near the swamp. The men believed he was the heart of a cult responsible for our missing squadmates. We found him hiding there and captured him.



The captain decided to take care of him personally



We watched, consumed by fear



That same night a storm began. It dispersed us into the swamp. There's this blister in my feet. I think I've been bit by something. I can't find my squad. I can't find my squad

(fade back to game)

Also, what kind of music should I use?

Any better way to build up the suspense towards the climax (Beheading + loose head)?

I believe they both look at the stories and say "Dude must have been on some serious drugs to write that!" and wedge that in to their culture as best they can.

There are elements in Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass, and adaptations thereof that lend themselves to cult status. The hookah and the mushroom and the cat are the most obvious examples. I also believe Lewis Carrol's interest in illusion and in nonsense means that his work has been a great resource for people interested in drug addled oddness. As MrCollosal observes, that doesn't mean that Alice in Wonderland is drug addled oddness.

I guess this explains her relationship to some subcultures. It could also be said some people just have a fascination with everything weird and for obvious reasons Alice fits the role perfectly.

Goths might like the fashion of 1850, but this has little to do with the Alice's Adventures in Wonderland story.

I'm pretty sure there's more to it- any goths here who can explain?

You are right, it was resetting to 0 somewhere, because I changed the counter's name to "locker" in all the mentioned spots and it worked. Thanks

American McGee's Alice! Love that game. I have a picture of her in a frame hanging from my wall and another pasted inside my locker.

I can't wait for McGee's next work:



I will mention the game in the essay, but I think it's popularity was not because the people really know the story, but because it's very effective as shock factor to see a little girl with a knife, so I can't use it to explain Alice's role in social subcultures today.

I need some help.

I'm going to write an essay about Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland for my school. Everything is ok except one part.

Is it correct to say that Alice has some sort of cult status?

Why? Why does this happen?

What do you think is her relationship to some social subcultures today- like goths?

If you can add anything that you think I could use, I'd be very grateful. thanks.

Ok, now it's like this:

At the top of the global script:

int my_counter5;
export my_counter5;

In script header.

import int my_counter5;

In a room at the end of a interaction

my_counter5 = 5;

In another room

if  ( my_counter5 == 5 ) { something }

if  ( my_counter5 == 0 ) { something else  }

but the counter is always zero.

thanks for the link!

and no I didn't add anything, or maybe I did, can't remember, it's 7 am and I've been up since sunday night.

Ummm, I just realized I haven't touched this since the last update. sorry to anyone who was looking forward to it. Should be ready in the next couple weeks.