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General Discussion / Toronto Meet-up (Toques 2017?)
« on: 18 Sep 2017, 05:21 »
Hello everyone!
So I've been exploring the western hemisphere, and one of my stopovers is in Toronto, where I'll be from the 25th to the 29th noon of this month. A bit of short notice, but I figured I'd meet up with and put some faces to the names of some of our illustrious AGSers. I'm not sure how many people actually are in or around Toronto at that time, so I figured a forum thread would be helpful.

I know that Catpuncher and Sylvr expressed interest. There's also Baron and Ryan Timothy who live around there? Or any other takers? :=
Since my timeframe is during the weekdays, I figured an evening meet-up would be more suitable for all the employed peoples- maybe meet up for a dinner meal or after-dinner hangout around 8 somewhere on a date that works for everyone?


I was preaching earlier to someone about how more of the community should be involved in developing AGS, and realised, I'm not doing it myself! :D
I'm not some supercoder, but I figured I'd look under the hood and get a feel for things.
So according to this link:
I need a specific version of VS2008 to be able to compile the full editor? Is this still a requirement?
I don't think VS2008 is even available anywhere. When I had a dreamspark account (2 years ago?), and it didn't even list 2008. question, what exactly is in the Native.dll? Would it be some really low level stuff that I would probably never need to bother with?

(also, sorry if I posted in the wrong place, this seemed the most appropriate)

EDIT: Hourgame is over!
Everyone vote now!

Hello everyone!

Not much for long complicated posts (that's a total lie).
On the spur of the moment, we in #AGS irc decided on having an hourgame (that is a total truth).
Time is in about 2 hours and 15 minutes from this post (7pm GMT?)
Rules not yet set.
Will try to get someone to post the rules in here when it starts (might not be me, because I want to participate), but to get into the mood with like-minded participants, you can join the #AGS channel (the server is and the channel is #AGS) on IRC, or even the AGS discord channel here:
So get your AGSes warmed up and ready!

Site & Forum Reports / Avatar not being settable?
« on: 22 Nov 2016, 17:13 »

I realised that my avatar hasn't been visible for ages, and when I checked, I realised why- it is my old (now defunct) imageshack link. So I uploaded to imgur and put the link in there, but every time I then click CHANGE PROFILE underneath (or even just paste in the link and hit enter), the page refreshes, informs me that "Your profile has been updated successfully", but now my Personalised Picture is set to "No Avatar".

General Discussion / Which Android phone should I buy?
« on: 01 Jan 2016, 15:58 »
Hello all!
With my recent birthday (and with this time actually having family around) I came into a little money, and figured I'd get myself a new android smartphone.
It seems I keep coming back here for recommendations, so figured I'd do it again :D.
My old phone is an offbrand android using a MTK MT6859 chip (QuadCore, 1.2GHz, 1GB RAM), but that was pretty cheap, and the quality of hardware is showing now.

I plan on rooting the phone, replacing all the default apps (homescreen, calendar, keyboard, dialer, etc) and appearance, so what it comes with doesn't matter if it is good otherwise. In fact, I want to try and distance myself as much as possible from some sort of pervasive "always connected to google" stuff. I'm also (attempting at) doing some android dev, so I don't know if that'd affect things if I want to use it for testing.
I'd like nice hardware features, though (stuff like wireless charging, microSD slot), although I guess some of the stuff I'd be interested in is no longer feasible (FM transmitter, IR :D), should have the usual cool stuff, and maybe some extra stuff.
Still, I'd like it to be relatively new, so that I could be upgrading it and using it as my main phone for a while now.

With a max budget of about $600, any suggestions on a phone? Any suggestions where I could look for options? Most stores seem way more complicated for this stuff, since they factor in contracts or have 'unlocked' phones as some special category. Or should I just go with the latest iteration of one of the major brands (Nexus 6 or Samsung S6 or Xperia Z5)?

Or should I skip out on a mobile get something else entirely :D? Currently I don't have the option to order from abroad, so most other stuff is less available to me. If I was more certain where I'd be in the near future, or that I wouldn't be constantly moving about, I might've pondered getting a nice battlestation of a desktop computer, but that doesn't seem likely at the moment.

General Discussion / Help me find a laptop to buy
« on: 30 Oct 2015, 13:47 »
Perhaps this is an odd topic for this site, but since there's such a large concentration of you awesome people, I figured I could ask for help here.

My current laptop, which I got around 2009 (a Core2Duo Toshiba Satellite) has served me very well, and still has absolutely nothing wrong with it (aside from a reduced battery life and the "3" key having come off, I suppose). The issue is that the work/research I'm doing now has requirements that are beyond it, most specifically, no USB 3.0 ports. It's a bit complicated, but I can't use a converter, backwards compatibility isn't going to help here, and installing a USB 3.0 on this system isn't going to work.

So I figured this was as good an opportunity as any to move up to a new laptop. Something I can use for my work right now, as well as keep for everything else for hopefully at least another 5-6 years.
The optimal specs for my work (other than the aforementioned USB 3.0 port) are essentially:
i5 Quadcore or more
2.4 GHz or more
8GB RAM or more

I have no issue with sizes (although the screen needs to be less than 24 inches, which I don't think will be a problem), weight, battery life (will mostly use it plugged in), brands, OSes (my work requires Windows 7/8, which I have a license for, although it would be nice to have enough space to dualboot with linux), or HD space (although again, this being for long term use, and hopefully dualboot so something as low as 120GB probably wouldn't work).

I'm looking locally as well, obviously, but I've got an opportunity to be able to order it from the US (if I can decide within the next week). I've looked around online using various sites (eg. amazon and newegg) with some relevant (and loads of irrelevant) filters, but that weren't very helpful. In fact, someone suggested a laptop model to me which fit my criteria, and then when I googled it, I got an amazon page, which I hadn't seen when I was using the filters on amazon.

Can someone suggest to me some procedure through which I can find the cheapest choices for my criteria?

*Entries Closed! Voting time!*
I've conferred with my co-winner, and decided to throw this at you this coming fortnight:
Unique Fantasy
So I've been playing Morrowind again, recently, and it struck me how interesting and different its version of a fantasy setting was. And also made it easier to come up with an (I hope) interesting idea for this BG Blitz.

So what I want you to do is draw a background image in some fantasy setting, but I don't want any of the usual boring stuff. No lush green forests with fairy circles and mushrooms on floating islands, no lava-filled, spikey demon-dimensions, no one-note desert/ice/forest planet. Aim for something different! And because so many "unique" fantasy settings are broody or horror-filled, just to make things difficult, try to make it happy (or at least neutral and not broody and horror-filled).

Other than that, the usual rules: Must be usable in AGS. Competition will go on till the end of the 15th, followed by voting.
Have at it!






Time to vote, people!
Voting will go on till the 22nd, hopefully enough time. Please fit your voting to these categories:
Concept: The coolest, most creative idea; the one that offers the best response to the rules and spirit of the Blitz topic.
Artistic Execution: The most technically and artistically accomplished image; the most successful expression of a personal artistic style.
Playability: The screen that would work best as an adventure game background (with possible interactions, walkable areas, exits, etc); a screen that would be fun to play.

General Discussion / Coin Collectors?
« on: 25 Jul 2014, 22:38 »
Ok, so I know some of you collect (don't worry, I won't out you :tongue:), and some of you have the attitude of "Cool, now you can buy loads of gum in many countries!" :grin:, but I figured I'd share and see who else is into this stuff.
I finally just finished organising and cataloguing each of my 853 coins (go ahead and count if you like := ), not counting the ones I keep to exchange, so I figured I'd show off.

To see how much of the world I've conquered, have a look at this map (hope it doesn't stretch the thread):
Mongolia and North Korea still hold out against me :(

And because pictures of bits of cardboard and maps might not be all that interesting, here is one of my favourite coins of my collection:
Not because of any cultural or numismatic significance, but because he looks like an awesome skeleton man.

So any other hidden collectors? Send me your change please, especially if you live in North Korea :P.

This is more just a simple question than any problem I've been having, although if it is as it seems, it really should be noted as such somewhere.

I know you can have animated cursors, and I know you can have inventory item cursors, and I know you can set a specific sprite for the inventory item hotspot marker, but is there a way to have animated inventory item cursors directly through AGS? Like you have an animation of the item glowing when it is over a hotspot, or perhaps have the crosshairs hotspot marker sprite animated.

I know one could easily code animated inventory item cursors in the script itself (and I know how to do that), but that is not what I am asking.

Hey everyone!

From 2009 up until about a month ago, I had a Nokia. It was cool, did most everything I wanted, and I got irritated when people people told me to "get a smartphone" ("IT COUNTS AS A SMARTPHONE! It has inbuilt GPS and maps and voice recognition and internet and emailing and messaging and all that! It has a keypad instead of touchscreen because I PREFER that!").

Anyhow, considering the horrible Nokia app store, and the fact that  wanted to get into dev, I recently got myself an android smartphone. It was an off-brand one, but with nice enough specs (Android 4.2, a 1.2GHz Quad Core, 4GB ROM/1GB RAM, etc.). It came with a ton of bloatware, so first thing I did was to root it and remove most of that.

What I'm looking for now are apps that would be an improvement on the functionality of the ones that came with it (phonebook, lockscreen, etc. stuff like that), but is also free - because I'm a cheapskate- and also ad-free and not requiring network access if possible - because while I have wifi at home, I'm a cheapskate with a horrible data plan (also the reason I'm less interested in the more "social" apps and social aspects of specific apps) - and preferably not a lite version of a better app. Sorry in advance for the long post, hopefully it'd be helpful to others as well.

First off, stuff I already got:

I got GO LAUNCHER EX (and a whole lot of associated GO apps), but I gotta say, I'm somewhat unsatisfied with it. It IS all swishy and cool and all, but it comes with loads of extra things I don't want, a whole separate interface to get backgrounds and themes and fonts and then some bits that I DO want it asks money for or tells me to upgrade to pro versions. If someone has a recommendation for a replacement, I'd be happy to hear!

I also got PitchLab Guitar Tuner and smartCHORD, in one of my "I really should properly learn the guitar" moments- the first has a tuner (more like a any sort of audio-note identifier) and loads of cool visualisations to help you. The second also has a tuner, but it isn't redundant, as it has loads other stuff: a ear trainer, nicely displayed chord list, a digital guitar thing, and stuff I don't even understand yet. Neither of them require any sort of network access, so I am really happy with them.

Still in the musicky side of things, I also have 2 "sequencers" Loops! and Plasma Sound, although the first seems a bit complicated for me (not that I'm an expert at using sequencers anyway), and the second is more of an enjoyable playing thing, messing about and making bloops and bleeps with the associated visualisations. Again. neither have any network access, and are absolutely free, which I love.

Because I'd like to be an astronomy buff, I also got Google Sky Maps, which is incredibly cool, as it allows you to see names of stars and planets and constellations in real time as you point your device at the sky. It is also totally free, but requires network access permissions, although I've switched off my data connection and only have it use my GPS, and so far I've had no issues.

For games, the one I play the most is Simon Tatham's Puzzles, recommended to me by Hajo/dasjoe, which have 34 puzzle games in one (including Sudoku, Minesweeper, Mastermind, Sliding tile puzzle, etc.), totally free, and again, requiring no network permissions. Some of the games don't seem to have been properly ported to the phone (Minesweeper requires pressing down and waiting to mark a mine, and some of them have a large amount of stuff on-screen making it difficult to press them accurately), but still, the ones that do, work great.

Instead of the default Google Maps, I'm using MapFactor: GPS Navigation, which asks for network permissions, but after I downloaded the maps at home on my wi-fi, it had no problems working without internet.

The default calculator had separate screens for normal and scientific mode, so I got RealCalc Scientific Calculator instead, which again is totally free and requires no network permissions.

Another utility I got is the TeslaLED Flashlight, because I wanted a free flashlight program for my phone that also did Morse code, and it suits me perfectly! Again, no network permissions required, and it even has this hilarious "Police Mode" where the screen flashes a bright alternating red and blue, that I want to abuse some time while driving.

So what I want:

Games! I've realised that at least for me, most actiony games aren't worth it on a phone. I have a 5 inch screen, but even at that level, it isn't all that fun, so I mostly go for puzzle games. I had bought the recent Humble Mobile bundle, but out of those, unfortunately, only Carmageddon, Time Surfers and Punch Quest worked, and currently I only have time surfers still on my phone. So if you have any suggestions, even ones to prove me wrong about my opinion of actiony games on a phone, or if you know of some free adventure game that works well on a touchscreen phone, please do tell!

Replacements for the system apps I have already. As I said, I'm not too happy with GO LAUNCHER EX and the rest of the stuff, so maybe a nice free launcher, and a screen lock with a similarly cool wiggly gesture unlock thing, maybe some Phonebook that includes a country field in the address (for some bizarre reason, the default one doesn't), and a birthday field that shows up on my calendar, and speaking of, a calendar app that syncs with the contacts, and be nice if it has multiple calendar systems (Gregorian, Islamic, Chinese, etc.), and shows the moon phase (there's that astronomy thing again), or at least another app that shows the moon's phase (preferably in a nice widget I can have on screen), a nice clock with alarms, stopwatch, timers, and some way of easily showing multiple time zones so I can keep up with everyone, etc.

A good music player. I'd definitely want one that can handle FLAC, which the default does, but it doesn't seem to be able to edit tags (of FLAC or anything else).

And anything else you suggest! As I said, I'd much prefer free stuff, and stuff that doesn't require a data connection (if it asks for network permissions, but doesn't require using it, that's okay too, I guess. I have adblock installed for the phone as well, but so far I'm not sure if it HAS blocked anything or not :D). I've set it so that I can download stuff outside of the Google Play store as well, so that is not an issue.

General Discussion / Tropes vs Women
« on: 03 Aug 2013, 16:18 »
I hadn't realised that the 3rd part of this series had already been released (I wasn't even aware that the 2nd part was out), so I just finished watching them both today, and was surprised there hasn't really been any discussion on it in these forums.

Now you probably want to watch them to know what is being talked about:

If you haven't seen any of them before, I think it'll take over an hours worth of your time.

I know there has been loads of horribleness surrounding the funding and development of these videos, but personally, I'm interested in them as a developer of games.
After watching, I had loads of thoughts and questions, so I figured it'd post them here as a way to get loads of different viewpoints.

First off, has there really been no game similar to the one she described at the end? It sounds familiar...or am I just thinking of the dozens of "male" versions of the game in existence?

Secondly, a lot of us are drawn here thanks to our love of the adventure games of the past, and our desire to recreate them. Is the only thing we can draw from those games the aesthetic and gameplay? Were the stories really so universally bad back then?

For my own part, my last MAGS game featured quite literally a Damsel in Distress- a songstress (I really love that word :D) you were listening to was abducted and taken to the king for nefarious, probably sexual purposes, and then you a random stranger, went on a quest to save her. If I felt the need for it, I maybe be able to throw a couple of arguments about my specific case defending the game, but what I want to ask, out of curiosity (I'm not dead set on making- or find the basic premise of it a necessary one- a Damsel in Distress game and trying to justify myself :D), is it possible, through carefully crafted story and narrative or whatever, to feature that- saving a friend, a girlfriend, a sister, a mother, or even a random female stranger as the goal or purpose of the game, without all the negativity inherited through this trope, or does cultural context and history and so on make it a totally lost cause?
According to the videos, the Damsel in Distress trope is employed to feed off of male empowerment fantasies at the expense of the woman. Would it be possible to remove such themes and ideas, while still having the player essentially, rescue a female. There are games where you must rescue a male friend or partner or something. If you just swapped those out for a female, would that automatically undermine the whole thing due to cultural context, or would it be plausible?
Interestingly, the video talks about ROM hacking (changing the sprites and text) to switch around the genders in console games. I've not played any of these games, but does the essential meaninglessness of the change to the game signify that yes, it does have more to do with the cultural context?

Also, finally, I realise that the perception of women in this medium will only advance through the work of developers that actively make games that challenge these stereotypes, but if I want to tell my own story, as long as I took to heart the issues presented and avoided them, is it really my job to be one of those advancing the medium developers?

I'm lazy, and likely not properly equipped to handle making such a game, and..I don't think I ever will. But it can't be anything other than a good thing to talk about this stuff!

General Discussion / Haaalp! Everything's Magnified!
« on: 31 Jul 2013, 19:59 »
For the last couple of weeks (possibly after I updated firefox), everything's been magnified in the browser.
When I googled around a bit, it seems that some new update of firefox dynamically changes the size of the stuff on the page depending on your monitor, which to me seems like a very horrible idea, but I guess I wouldn't mind it so much for text (although it'd take getting used to on my usually visited sites), but it does it for images as well, even when I open JUST the image in a new browser tab, which I really don't understand.
I keep my non-widescreen CRT monitor's resolution at 1280x1024, which may seem low, but I am happy with it. However, images that are even just 750 pixels tall are required to be scaled down and I need to click the magnifying glass to view them, at which point I have to use the scrollbars to view them!
I know I am not imagining it, because when I copy the image and paste it into Paint, it shows up smaller.

I haven't had so much of a problem on these forums, possibly because I have gifs and pngs to magnify using nearest neighbour(?) and how most pixel-level art here is posted using tags or something (or possibly because I haven't noticed it yet :O), but it is annoying me on most of the rest of the web, and I'm second-guessing myself as to whether everything just got bigger, or it is normal, or what.

Following instructions on some mozilla help thing (where someone else posted a similar problem), I installed the NoSquint add-on, but while that helps somewhat (but not really) by setting a default zoom level for everything or for specific websites, I'm mostly setting the size by guesswork, and Firefox STILL expands it when I open a picture in a separate tab (NoSquint gives the message that the zoom level is N/A for that page).

So...mozilla's own help thing has been kinda unhelpful, but I hope someone here might have a solution for this?

Thanks in advance!

Adventure Related Talk & Chat / Mechanics vs Narrative
« on: 25 Jun 2013, 15:18 »
Sorta stemming from the thread about adventure games that came up recently, I started thinking again (have I done this before? :D) about the mechanics in adventure (and other sorts) of games, and how they're quite often at odds with the narrative, something that really shouldn't be happening. One of the incredible things about games as a medium is the inclusion of INTERACTION to all the other story-telling tools. The idea of having the participants involved in the story by actually acting it out is a great thing for immersing the player into the game's atmosphere, the characters, and make the plot feel more meaningful to them. But if that interaction actually takes away from the story, it is kind of broken, then, isn't it?

Just to make sure we're on the same page:
Trapping a cat to get its hair to make a disguise moustache to pass off as someone else breaks the immersion for me.
Chasing and repeatedly whipping a rodent to direct it into becoming bait to clear a forest path breaks the immersion for me.
Having to extract numbers from a vague poem found nearby to enter a passcode to get through a door breaks the immersion for me.
Getting into a "race against time" with a wet towel to sprinkle it on some clay to harden a mould to get through a door breaks the immersion for me.
Having to connect one name with a totally different unconnected name in your "memory inventory" just so you are able to realise that you can use it as a unisex name to get by someone...that breaks the immersion for me.
(and to give a non-adventure example) Acquiring 10 kraad rabbit skulls to give to a local sorceress so that she'll help you further in your quest to save the land breaks the immersion for me.

Now in and of themselves, these little situations might be funny to me, or I might be happy that I was able to solve them in such a "neat" manner, but how do they work overall towards the narrative the game is trying to weave?
These sort of absurd situations might work in an absurd game, like Day of the Tentacle or Monkey Island. They were full of absurd situations, and it fit right in to find absurd solutions to those problems. But then what about more serious (or at least non-solely-comedic) games? Do such mechanics make sense in games involving shadowy conspiracies, Freemasons, Templars, the occult, etc.? One would imagine that maybe once or twice you may come across a situation that would benefit the story and game from an absurd solution, and the story may be better off for that, but the examples I gave aren't unique or one-off situations. Those entire games are set up like that.
Or is such stuff simple accepted as part of the genre and ignored as such (like I wouldn't complain that no one approaches me from and I can't fire towards the side in a 2D platforming game)? I'll admit, I had less problems with such games when I played them originally..I don't know if that has changed because I'm older now, or maybe because the potential for story-telling has increased or what.

Any suggestions of some non-solely-comedic games that bucked this trend? I suppose some of the more dialogue-focused games would count among them...

Or more importantly, any suggestions on how to overcome this problem?
I realise "design better stories" would be the overall answer, but it is a bit vague to be helpful :D. My general method of creating puzzles is as explained by Rodekill's tutorial (incorporated here). I write out the story as a series of obstacles, and then fill in the plot as the solution to those obstacles (as well as the gameplay in terms of solving puzzles). If the obstacle or the solution is too simple, that puzzle becomes less meaningful as a form of gameplay, but if the solution is too convoluted, then you get into the possibility of the silliness of it all breaking the immersion for the player.

So how should it work?

Hello hello!

In my never-ending quest to iterate through everything, I've reached dialogs now. The problem is, I can't seem to find a way to check if a dialog (any and every dialog) is running. I'm not using any custom dialog system, and I'd prefer not to. Still, I am displaying the dialog in a custom textwindow gui instead of the normal way.

Since I was doing that, I figured I'd simply check if gDialogs.Visible is true. However, I believe that no scripts are run and nothing is checked while dialogs are ongoing? For my check I tried using both the on_key_press function (by adding a "&& (!gDialogs.Visible)" condition to "if (IsGamePaused() keycode = 0", and then adding a check with a keypress to display a message or to move the mouse or SOMETHING to indicate that code is running), and with repeatedly_execute (again with a relevant condition) and even repeatedly_execute_always. None of these had any effect.
So...any ideas? Heck, is it even possible to run any sort of code at all while a dialog is active?

To give some context, once I can check if there is a dialog ongoing, I'd give an ability to iterate through all the options if the player pressed a button.

Also, a second issue, there some way to make visible through script a GUI set with the "Mouse YPos" setting? According to the manual, .Visible doesn't work like that for Mouse YPos GUIs. If I Mouse.SetPosition to the top within its PopupYPos value, it shows, but if I Mouse.SetPosition immediately after that again (even if it is to on top of a button on that same GUI) it doesn't show. Perhaps some issue with it not having enough time to register that the mouse was there?

EDIT: Just after I've posted, I see the thread for Phemar/Zor's dialog module :D. Still, I'd prefer, if possible to just use the normal dialog system, and not have to rely on some other module. Is dialog truly and completely blocking?

Hello BTF! Long time no see!

I've got this GUI that I want to be able to iterate through the buttons of, and then interact with the buttons.
I've got the first part down, which means I can access all the properties of whichever button I'm currently on (X position, width, ID, etc.).

But now I can't find any way to get the script associated with the button to run.
I had been using this:
Code: Adventure Game Studio
  1. ProcessClick(gOptions.X + gOptions.Controls[smb[1]].X + gOptions.Controls[smb[1]].Width/2, gOptions.Y + gOptions.Controls[smb[1]].Y + gOptions.Controls[smb[1]].Height/2, eModePointer);
But then I saw that ProcessClick ignores GUIs. GUIs or GUIControls don't seem to have a RunInteraction or a RunScript or any such thing either.

So is there a way to access any button's script at run-time? Or some way to accomplish what I'm trying without having to hardcode the different buttons' function names into an if-block in this code?

General Discussion / Game Developer? Why?
« on: 09 May 2013, 04:01 »
Assuming you're here developing games (although I suppose a sizable portion of you all are simply here to play games), I was wondering why.
I was wondering why about myself too....not sure I could pin it down. Why do you develop games? Why do you start out developing a game? What pulls you through it to the end of the game? What brings you back to develop another?

Is it the enjoyment of the adulation of fans ;D? The money being showered on you? Do you have some inner mission driving you to tell some specific story? Do you simply invent challenges for yourself and enjoy puzzle solving? Do you have some inner mission involving advancing video gaming as a medium? I've heard people say they enjoy making games they'd like to play. Is it about enjoying exercising your creativity? Why choose video games for that? Perhaps it is a quirk of the sort of adventure games we make here, but while I certainly try my best to make games I wouldn't hate, aside from bug testing or checking something, I have to admit, I don't much care to play through my own games.

General Discussion / Games for the PS2
« on: 11 Apr 2013, 07:50 »
Hey everyone!

I decided to join you all in your new-fangled technologiness, and got myself a brand-spankin-new, top-of-the-line, cutting edge PS2!

The next step, obviously, is to get games for it, which is where all you fine folk come in! I have a short amount of time to order lots of good games (I'll be travelling soon after, and don't know the intricacies of regions and compatibility, or if PS1 games would work on a slim, regardless of regions and such), so I want to get the best! I realise that I could look up 'Best of' lists and such (and I have), but I figured that this community probably has a better and more personalised feel for what I'd like (not to say I want adventure games, those things suck :P).

So, for example, I've heard good things about Shadow of the Colossus. And Ico. And Jax & Drexter. And Ratchet & Clank. And God of War. These are games I've heard of constantly as a computer gamer, that supposedly added to what games are, and gave games a context that I am fundamentally unaware of, having never experienced them. AND they're supposedly fun/enjoyable.

Can you suggest to me some more such games? Tell me all you can think of that run the gamut of good (or even just FUN) console games! Or even tell me they're not worth it, and recommend totally different stuff. Or even if Tekken 4(5?) is not worth it (with me having fond memories of constantly beating my friend in 3 on his console and later my emulator) and I should get some other fighting game!

Beginners' Technical Questions / Noob Scripting issue
« on: 19 Dec 2012, 12:06 »
Hello everyone!
Been a long while since I posted in this forum...please don't hurt me too much :D.

So I'm trying to find the leftmost and rightmost x value of all the hotspots in any one room. This is what I have so far (runs in room_Load()):
Code: Adventure Game Studio
  1.   int cc=0, x=0, y=0;
  2.   int hmin[50];
  3.   int hmax[50];
  4.   int IDmax=0;
  5.   Hotspot* HatXY;
  6.   while (cc<50)                            //Initialising array
  7.   {
  8.     hmin[cc]=Room.Width;
  9.     hmax[cc]=0;
  10.     cc++;
  11.   }
  13.   while (y<Room.Height)
  14.   {
  15.     while (x<Room.Width)                    //Going through Room pixel by pixel to find width of all hotspots
  16.     {
  17.       HatXY=Hotspot.GetAtScreenXY(x, y);
  18.       if (HatXY!=hotspot[0])
  19.       {
  20.         if (HatXY.ID>IDmax) IDmax=HatXY.ID;
  21.         if (x<hmin[HatXY.ID]) hmin[HatXY.ID]=x;//Gets minimum x value of hotspot HatXY
  22.         if (x<hmax[HatXY.ID]) hmax[HatXY.ID]=x;//Gets maximum x value of hotspot HatXY
  23.       }
  24.       x++;
  25.     }
  26.     y++;
  27.   }
And it doesn't work. I've checked with debugging, but putting a breakpoint inside the if, but it never enters into the "if (HatXY!=hotspot[0]) {...}" condition. I had replaced "hotspot[0]" with "null", that didn't help either. My room DOES have hotspots and it is NOT a scrolling room (although I'm curious if that matters if the viewport is set to zero). I tried putting the code in room_AfterFadeIn() as well, but it still didn't work. I randomly tried declaring the pointer inside the loop, and even assigning the GetAtScreenXY value outside the loop, it doesn't work.

Could someone please tell me, or help me figure out what the problem is?

Adventure Related Talk & Chat / Multiple Endings
« on: 03 Dec 2012, 08:18 »
From as long as I can remember, "Multiple endings" have been a selling point or something praiseworthy in adventure games, but I've never quite understood why. The ways I have seen it done didn't seem to be good methods. Honestly, the only only "good" way I've seen it done isn't in adventure games; it is in those open-ended free-roaming RPGs that essentially give you total freedom anyhow, and I'm not sure how easily that could be applied to adventure games. The way adventure games do it seem to fall into 3 groups:

The first way, which I'm sure everyone can agree is a bit silly is everything going the same, and then right at the end, you have to make some sort of choice (through dialogue or some such thing), and then depending on that, your end cutscene/text is different.

Similar to the first way is one where the choices are in the middle of the game, or littered throughout, or hinging on something like whether you got a particular inventory item, or used it or such, and then depending on that, the end cutscene/text is different.

Finally, there is where the game forks out before the end, and you play a bit (or a lot), and then depending on which path you took, you get a different ending.

Now in the first and second case, it would be pretty silly to try to make it a selling point (although a number of non-adventure AAA games do just that even today). In the third case, perhaps it is because I've never seen it implemented properly, but it annoys me somewhat. The way I've seen it used is to provide "lesser endings" alongside the optimal ending. I've even seen this suggested (even on AGS) as a useful method of allowing variable puzzle difficulty: Someone solves the really difficult puzzle, they get the best ending. If they are unable to solve it, they get one of the secondary ending. I don't know about anyone else, but I am really not fond of feels like a form of punishment, especially in some games where after the game is finished it gives a message like "You have completed the game on easy, you should now try completing it 'properly' for the 'proper' ending!".
Again, I can only speak for myself, but having just completed a game, being told (or seeing) that what I did was something lesser, I'm not usually in the mood to restart and go through most of the same game all over again till I get to the point of the fork to choose the different fork (this becomes an even more annoying problem when the fork is something like not having picked up a particular inventory item at one point, or not using it properly...something you might not even know).
The way I end up having to deal with this becomes an incredibly immersion breaking thing...if something pops up that appears to be a fork, usually in the form of a dialogue choice like "Do you want to do X or do you want to do Y?", I usually save (or more often load a slightly older game, get right before that point and save, because you can't save during dialogues), and then proceed. If I'm seeing signs of this being a "lesser path", I load and try the other. I realise fully that this isn't the way the game is supposed to be played, but why should I continue down a path in a game that I KNOW is going to be one of the lesser paths, and probably end with a less than optimal ending?

How do you deal with these multiple ending games? I've got to admit, replayability itself in adventure games isn't something that's worked on me, so I might not be the intended target for "multiple endings" took me almost 9 years, with long gaps inbetween to finish all three paths in Fate of Atlantis (although that was an example of multiple solutions, not multiple endings).
Perhaps I have missed out on some major adventure games that had proper multiple endings that didn't have one or two be the "good" ones and the rest be lesser endings. If so, please enlighten me, I would appreciate it.

Also, in the interest of honesty, I'm actually using the 2nd method I listed in my game :D, where a number of totally optional items, if picked up, will very superficially change the ending, but none of them in a negative way, unless you don't find any of the items at all, which would be difficult to do.

General Discussion / Scotch come back!
« on: 08 May 2012, 15:49 »
Come back from wherever in the highlands you are hiding! PEOPLE WANT YOU BACK!

(The Acknowledgement page in the report for my final year project at college...submitted in 2009, but I just got the idea to upload this photograph)

There sure have been a lot of great guys who came, left an impact, and then...disappeared. I just realised I've been here almost 10 years now, and....haven't got much to show for myself.

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