Mittens 2009: Vice Squad Edition *Travel Information*

Started by Grundislav, Thu 29/01/2009 00:31:51

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Darth Mandarb

Quote from: DutchMarco on Mon 23/02/2009 13:56:43from what I can make of my e-ticket, my plane departs from Philadelphia and lands at 21:09 (on sat. june 29). Chances are this isn't conveniently timed for a picking-up (I think chances aren't the right word; Ir's more like very inconvenient)
It's probably, at most, a 10 to 15 minute drive (~6 miles) to the airport from the house so it's not a problem!

Quote from: Nacho on Mon 23/02/2009 15:55:46Hey, I don' t post here often, but I am still in and I will pay asap... Lore is in, too
¿quién eres? :P

Grundislav

Not to worry, I'll PM everyone the exact address closer to the date.  International flights require an address to stay at when filling out the customs cards, anyway.

Layabout

Quote from: Grundislav on Mon 23/02/2009 16:52:09
Not to worry, I'll PM everyone the exact address closer to the date.  International flights require an address to stay at when filling out the customs cards, anyway.

Just so everyone knows, you now need to fill in an electronic permission to travel for travel to the US under the VWP now. This came in on Jan 12 2009. This needs to be filled out before you travel.

https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/

You need to apply for this now, or they won't let you in. Just another way of securing America's borders. Keep in mind it is not a visa, just an authorisation to travel to the customs people at the border. You still need to get a visa approved on entry.
I am Jean-Pierre.

Disco

Quote from: Layabout on Tue 24/02/2009 01:50:08
Just so everyone knows, you now need to fill in an electronic permission to travel for travel to the US under the VWP now. This came in on Jan 12 2009. This needs to be filled out before you travel.

https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/

You need to apply for this now, or they won't let you in. Just another way of securing America's borders. Keep in mind it is not a visa, just an authorisation to travel to the customs people at the border. You still need to get a visa approved on entry.

I had no idea this was going on :/

That is sickening -_- of course it won't affect me too much personally, but it's like they are inventing new ways to dicks in the name of assumed safety. As if having all the documents and the three necessary checkpoints at US immigration isn't enough. I really hate borders, sometimes to the point of having actual headaches (for real, like the kind that hurt).

Out of all the countries I have been to, getting back into the US is the hardest one to work through at immigration.

Disgusting... all I can really say  :'(

Becky

Actually the ESTA is exactly the same as the visa waiver card that visitors from countries that don't need visas (e.g. UK) needed to fill in on flight.  It's exactly the same with the same requirements, except you fill it in in advance and not on the flight.  You do not also need to apply for a visa if you are part of the visa waiver programme.

Layabout

It's different, because you now have to convince a computer that you are not a terrorist, willingly submit your personal data to the American government (bet they log your ip as well...) and then finally, convince a grumpy customs official that you are not a terrorist. I'd rather fill out a piece of card with my details on it and submit on entry.

I too agree wholeheartedly with what Disco says... well sort of... I had problems with my flight to Australia due to an electronic permission to travel not going through properly. Even after I proved I'm an australian citizen to the idiot at the check-in desk. But on the other side... no problems.

America has the dickiest border protection in the world. They could at least welcome you to America like the cell phone networks do. Never have I had a welcome to America from a customs official. I've heard they are told to be dicks to you to 'protect America's borders'.
I am Jean-Pierre.

Disco

Yeah, not to hijack the thread too much, but it is different since even citizens had to fill out those cards on the plane, and now it requires everyone going into the country to submit more information than before, and things that can easily be lied about anyways, questions that no one would ever answer in the positive if they wanted to get in.

And yes, the border guards are meant to be dicks, unlike places like France and Greece, and heck even the UK is easy where I just get a friendly question by one (1) single customs agent about where I'm staying and they hope I have a good time *STAMP*

Darth Mandarb

#67
Mittens 2009 here we come!!!  I just hope all you over-seas people can get in!!! ;)

Disco

Yeah I'm about to pay for my spot, once I withdraw the funds from my online account. This is usually one of the more exciting parts of the planning stage, it is always satisfying to have that part behind me.

I am still uncertain as to which airport I will be flying into, but it looks like Fort Lauderdale at the moment. I'm assuming that it is closer too, being 6 miles, than Miami airport? The website makes it sounds like it is smack in the middle between the cities.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens

QuoteAmerica has the dickiest border protection in the world. They could at least welcome you to America like the cell phone networks do. Never have I had a welcome to America from a customs official. I've heard they are told to be dicks to you to 'protect America's borders'.

Why should we welcome you to come here, get massively drunk, complain about our country and then leave?  :=

...without even having the common courtesy to let us molest you first.


YOU ARE WORSE THAN MY LAST DATE.  OFFICIALLY.


On task:

Looks like it will cost me around 100 bucks and 2 days to get to Fort Lauderdale, so provided I get some more money in the near future my attendance potential will be greater than 75%.

m0ds

The state should be able to pay my deposit in about a months time. Woo! ;)

Grundislav

Ok, so there is a slight modification in the cap.

I spoke with the property managers, and it seems 23 is the limit.  This is sharing beds.  If nobody minds bringing a sleeping bag, I'll raise it a bit, but this means I still have to lower the attendance limit to 25.

First post has been updated.

Darth Mandarb

If we get more people coming (over the limit) there's always the option for those over the limit to get a few rooms at a hotel ... if there was 2-3 to a room it would probably be cheaper for each person than the week at the big-house!  And a lot of hotels will offer some kind of group-rate if you book a block of 3 rooms for a week.

And it's Hollywood ... there's probably a few hotels in every direction (accept east ... unless it's on a boat.  Which could be fun too)

Grundislav; the website doesn't seem to list the actual location/address!  Do you have that information?  I wanted to search for some hotels close to the area but couldn't find the address!  I'm sure there are a few (hotels) within walking distance of the house...

Grundislav

True, Darth.  Hotels are always an option, but the problem is not having everyone under the same roof.  France was different because we had the gite, but it was within walking distance of the chateau.  Hotels would require a drive.  If people don't mind this, then we can do it, but it kind of defeats the purpose of renting the house.

Darth Mandarb

Yeah ... in lookin' at the location on Google maps it definitely would be a "drive" to any hotel.

I'm [a bit] surprised in how far it is to the beach.  Now I know why the listing (on that website) doesn't give an exact address!!  Still, not a big deal!  In a car it's only a minute or two drive to the beach (and it could be walked as well!  It's nowhere near as long as the hike to the town/pubs in France!) and well worth the lower cost!

As for everybody being under the same roof I totally agree!!  I just meant if there were some that couldn't come 'cause of the limit, to my way of thinking, not staying in the same place (but close) is better than not coming at all right?

DutchMarco

Yeah, but bear in mind that walking distance is a very subjective term. Medieval (as in: adults who lived between 1095 and 1272) merrily walked from roughly where I'm sitting now all the way to Jerusalem, Admittedly there may have been some boats in use somwehre along the way, but that won't have been much.
Of course, they didn't have to get therein time before the drinks or dinner were served.

;D ;D ;D

m0ds

So a bunch of people have to sleep with each other anyway??

How do you plan to cater for us hetrosexuals? :P

Grundislav


m0ds

Id rather get over Andail but he's not even confirmed...

I suppose Mittens isnt Mittens unless Im forced into or end up inducing some kind of gay incident :P

But going back to women, assuming Miami is as chick filled as it says it is, do they all say No like Noo like that chick does on CSI: Miami? I love it .^^

AGA


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