Talking view for "Work In Progress" - C&C

[Hollister Man]

Here is a sample of the view I will display when the main character in my game is talking.  I posted a poorer quality, more "poser like" image before, but have re-morphed it.  Please, let me know what you think.

[danny*]

it good ,...so far..but since it is a talking view,you should post here the rest of the views or a .gif with the whole thing,so we can tell you what we think!

[Hollister Man]

Yeah, except I have not rendered the whole thing yet.    I kind of wondered if anyone could think of what his face needs?  I think it looks funny somehow, but don't know why.  Well, I'll post the renders when I get them done.

[danny*]

the only think that is a little "funny" is ,in my opinion,the distance between the upper lip and the nose. It's too big!

[Hollister Man]

That was it!  I can't believe I didn't see that.  Anyway, here's the animated one.  Moved the lips up and the nose down.    Pardon the load time, it is thirty frames long.



I think I will get a good picture of myself taken and use that to re-map him, make him look more realistic.  

[noed]

I think his eyebrows could be darker, but it's just a matter of taste, not good art.

[MrColossal]

it looks more like he's chewing gum

my suggestion would be to not have his mouth flow from one position to the other, have it start and stop a little more abruptly

[Hollister Man]

I thought so too, but then he loots too jittery for a fairly realistic face.  The animation is too slow on here anyway though.

[Neole]

If the animaion is faster in the game it shoul work well.

[danny*]

yeah,Neole may be right about the animation speed!
(otherwise,it looks like chewing gum,as Eric said!)
I love the head motion btwy!!

EDIT:
one more thing:Is this the actual size?

[Hollister Man]

Close, but I didn't anti-alias this, since I haven't added the borders or other details I do in postwork.  I'll maybe have a decent, finished animation today.

[Ginny]

It looks very nice, but his chin is a little flat. Eyebrows could be darker, I agree, but not really important. You could have his hair move a little (on his forehead) to make it seem like it's not glued in place. Just a tiny movement.

edit: Hmm, I think he's missing the O lip position, which is why he looks like he's chewing. His eyes look sad.. He should blink once in a while if your'e going for a realistic style. Blink quiclky though. And one last thing- some of his teeth dissappear in some frames. It's like, now he has all healthy teeth, now half have fallen out. It's very smooth, though possibly it should go a bit more abruptly. I dunno how it looks in the game. Anyway, great character and animation!

[Hollister Man]

All good advice, I will be trying to update tomorrow.  

GinnyW:  I did not notice he never has an O shape.  Thanks.  I had intended to include a blink, but it looks too "this is an animated loop" ish.  I may figure out a good way to do it.  And if your friends and family were suddenly turned to granite, you would have sad eyes too lol

[Ginny]

Oh, poor guy, I had a feeling he was sad for a reason .

[Hollister Man]

HEEEEERE HEEE IZZZZZZ!


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Tried to fix the sad eyes a bit (they were too sad, considering that his character in the game goes out actually does something about the problem) The teeth problem was due to no anti-aliasing.  This should be about actual size, although I might downsize it a little.

The Ultimate Test....Does he look like a Poser Dork still?  OH, I just noticed that I like the slight profile I used last time better, will use that angle for the finished product.  Otherwise I think this is done.

[Ginny]

Yeah the profile looks better, and the improvements you've done are great! Only comment, the hair moves a little too quickly, like it wiggles. If you can't fix it then just have it stay still, it's no biggie.