Dr Who.

[Mr Flibble]

Well Craig Charles is on The Games but don't think he was ditching the movie to do it. Doug Naylor hasn't even found founding for it yet.
The BBC refuse to pay for it, which is a surprise.
Even that company that financed "thunderpants" wouldn't give them money.

For those who are interested, there is a Red Dwarf fangame is production. Here.

[Ali]

I doubt this new Dr Who is low budget by modern BBC standards, though. They seem to be hoping for a saturday night ratings winner, so I imagine they invested quite a bit in it.

It cost around £10m, which is twice what you'd expect a regular British Rom-Com film to cost.

The CGI was done by the fellas that did Gladiator, which looked pretty convincing if memory served. I think one of the problems with the Dr Who special effects is that there are too many effects sequences. They can't all be convincing.

Look out for Cassandra the skin lady though, she's entirely CG and looks pretty good.

Ithe still use the crap looking fade away with the police box!

Watch out for a later snowy episode. Apparently the Tardis disappears and the settled snow flutters down to the ground.

[Eggie]

Actually. With the fading Tardis. I noticed they threw some some smoke in there, just to make it harder for themselves.

I think The Guide described the special effects best:
"The SFX are alright, but pre-programmed to look naff in 10 years time"

And if you're annoyed by the quality of the cameras they used...well...well...it's a CAMERA for God's sake!

[Creed Malay]

I was kinda put off the new Dr. Who when I found out Richard E. Grant wasn't going to be playing him,  and the teasers and trailers I've seen didn't fill me with hope. I really enjoyed the pilot though, nice intro to the series and some very nice humour. The special effects were a shade poo, but they're much better than the Doctor Who effects we had when I were a lad. We had Sylvester Mc. Coy fighting a giant version of the sweetie man from the licorique allsorts adverts.  Also- Northern Doctor = happy Creed.

"If you're from another planet, how come you talk like you're from the North?"
"Lots of planets have a North."

Quality.

[MillsJROSS]

I love the old Doctor Who's for their campiness. I hope I'll get a chance to see the new episodes.

As far as Red Dwarf is concenred in America. You probably won't find that the majority of people here will even know anything about the show, as for the most part it's played on either bbc america or pbs. Neither of which get too much of an audience. The problem with BBC America is they have comercials, so a half hour episode takes fourty-five minutes. PBS shows all british show's fully, but they mostly show british shows on saturday, which isn't a day that yields a lot of tv watching, that is, if the local pbs shows it at all. However, Red Dwarf, apparently, has enough fan base for them to sell the DVD's here. And it's gaining more and more popularity, as I've seen it in several DVD stores. I also make it a point to show almost everyone I know Red Dwarf. And I find, that while some people can't get into it, the people who do enjoy it, mostly, are big scifi fans. And there are a lot of those.

-MillsJROSS

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

Actually, I know ALOT of people that are fans of Red Dwarf here in America, including myself.  The only problem (as with most BBC stuff) is that by the time we got to see it, it was already cancelled.  Hopefully Craig and Chris will get together and turn out a moderate budget movie, so we can get some resolution to the final season and it's multitude of cliffhangers ;>

As for Dr. Who, I haven't seen the new show, but I was a big fan of the Tom Baker years, and he was always dressed like some rogue scholar with a huge striped scarf, making him easily the coolest and most laid back of the Doctors.  "Jelly baby?"

[Pumaman]

I thought it was actually pretty good, considering. I didn't notice any problems with the film quality -- looked just like anything else on TV. The special effects were a bit poor though, especially when the guy got stuck to the wheelie bin; but then, Dr Who has always had a low-budget feel to it, so can't complain I guess

[PaulSC]

Whoops, apparently Eccleston has quit as the Doctor.

I can see why an actor might think spending months and months working on the same role would be harmful for their career, but still it's disappointing news. And you'd think everyone involved would at least wait till the end of the series before announcing it.

Anyway, I think it'd be fun if they 'degenerated' the character back into Paul McGann, who never really got a proper shot at it.

[Privateer Puddin']

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4395849.stm

indeed, shame, i liked the first ep, dunno how much i'll enjoy the rest of the series knowing he has already quit.

[Phemar]

You know Douglas Adams was the script editor for the older Dr. Who series.

[SSH]

Yup, and the Doctor begins one Dalek episode reading a book by Oolon Caluphid

[Privateer Puddin']

Digging up an old topic, but no point in starting another doctor who thread eh?

Just saw the last episode of the current series with the doctors latest regeneration

I didn't think the new guy (whose name i can't remember right now, but he was recently in BBC 1s casanova) was going to be as good, but in that 5 sec or so bit you saw of him, i'm rather looking forward to the christmas special now..

[FrogMarch]

I saw the last episode, and I agree that the new guy looks like he could be pretty good. He looked a tad funny in Chris E's clothes though. They seemed a bit too big.

One question, what's going to happen to Jack? They just left him there to rot.

Poor lad.

[Mr Flibble]

The new Doctor is David Tennant.
He looks a little bit like the short one off Top Gear.

I still don't quite understand the whole Bad Wolf thing though.

[Privateer Puddin']

Loads of theories re Bad Wolf

the short one off top gear is richard hammond

[magintz]

Most enjoyable, I missed the sequal to the episode with the creepy gas masks... anyone care to fill me in on the next episode? What happened?

[FrogMarch]

magintz - basically the Doctor used the nano gene thingies to fix everyone's DNA. He was really pleased 'cause everyone survived, for once.

Puddin' - Rose did the whole Bad Wolf thing herself, once she got the time field thingame in her head. She spread those words throughout time, as a message to herself, so that she'd know she could save the Doc. Bit of a paradox, that.

[Privateer Puddin']

How about the theory that Rose didn't just bring Jack back to life.. what if she got some of the timelords? a bit far fetched i know but thats just one of the things i've read

[FrogMarch]

Where are you reading this stuff?

[Las Naranjas]

From what I've seen of the new series [and yes, it is shown outside the UK] they've gone back to the same vein of balanced camp and seriousness that existed before that crappy 90's movie that tried to be completely serious.

That crappy movie that was crap. For christ's sake, he travels through time and space in a Police Box, don't descend into self parody, but you're allowed a snigger here and there.


And I hope to god that the Red Dwarf film doesn't get funding. The last few series were eye ball tearing outly horrible, and more so if compared to the earlier seasons. Rob Grant is evidently far funnier than Doug Naylor, especially when you compare the independent sequels to Better Than Life they each wrote. Grants was nasty with limited numbers of characters [hence more character humour] and hilarious, like the earlier seasons. Naylor's was "hAHaHAH PENIS!!!!!! GIMP!!!! LOTS OF THEM, KOCHANSKI PENIS SEX OMG!"

and that is a COMPLETELY accurate recreation.