How long is a N00b a N00b??

[Dart]

Now you see, this got me to thinking.

There are some people that are not here for long, and i dont consider them n00bs, the first example is Dan Clarke.

Somehow he did a fast morphing from a newbie to a perfectly good member (I'm talking subjectively, but not patronising).
That may be because i think he made a lot of posts that make sense and mean something.

Yeah, I don't see him as a newbie as well. Hell, I probably joined the same time he did, but he's like a normal member to me because he's made wicked art in the Critic's Lounge and is making a game I'm looking very forward to.

I guess it's all a matter of the maturity you administer on each post you make. If you post without grammar, without clarity and without dignity ("WHO ARE U CALLING A N00bb?!!!), then yes, in my books, you're a n00b.

And to be honest with you, at the forums I used to visit a while ago, asking if you were a "n00b" automatically made you a complete "n00b"... but you're not one, so don't worry.

[meira_Bates]

Another good example of a noob...

On a board I used to frequent, some new member showed up.Ã,  First thing he did was start making false and quite nasty comments aimed at two long time users.Ã,  If he'd paid attention to the fact we've been around a lot longer than he had, you figure we'd know when he's lieing through his teeth about someone.Ã,  THEN he'd start lashing out at other members AND admin and was still brainless enough to demand to know where he went wrong.Ã,  Time after time he acted as if the admin had no power over him and between that and his treatment of a handfull of users he got booted.Ã,  I also add he did this all with TERRIBLE punctuation, netspeak, spelling, you name he did it wrong.Ã, 

...or maybe it's more of a general idiot than a noob...Ã,  Make your own calls on that.

[Moox]

That reminds me of a kid who has the sn Arcel, we called him arsehole after about a week.

N00B really depends on the forum. Old forums that are well established usually have tougher standerds, At the nationstates forums I was newb for 1 year. The reason for that was with over half a million members it takes awhile to stand out. The ags forums, although old and well established, is more like a family. Its a tight knit group. Just act mature and post responsibly and your in the family.
Now small and new forums is whole nother thing. At the Annihilation X forums, 400 member, I became a respected moderator within the first week as they had an rp forum and I was best rper due to my Nationstates expierence.
You can be a newb at other forums, but personaly I dont consider you an ags newb.

[Chicky]

Seeing as ags is a very art and scripting intensive engine (hell, what else could it be?) I think how good you are at these two factors has quite an effect on how people interpret your "noob" status.

For example, someone who posts an image with poor jpeg compression is obviously not very experienced with computer art, therefor being labled a "noob".

[Ali]

Also because AGS is game-centric you can't really be anything but a newbie if, like me, you have yet to finish your first game.

[Hollister Man]

Well, I never looked at myself as a noob until that post, Ali, thanks a lot. .... *insert sarcasm here*

Personally, I sometimes go back and read my posts, and realize I sounded like a jerk.  I guess its just how I write.  I use vocal inflection a LOT in regular speech, so when you can't hear what I'm saying, its hard to get my meaning.

Who was it over in the Games in Production forum who posted four games in a day, but obviously wasn't putting any effort into it?  That's a very noobish thing to do around here, but I think he's been forgiven.

[viktor]

The ags forums, although old and well established, is more like a family.

I gues your right. Your just like a brother to me. 
I don't like the word noob to much. I think that it is ofensiwe my self.
The definision of a newbie is difrent from forum to forum (as already said). I'm a member on a magic the gathering forum. It's slovenian. And hell no I'm not a newbie anymore. Thank god. People realy act ofensive to new members on that forum. The whole forum, even the moderators, should buy a book on good behawior. I can gladly say that the AGS forum is probably the most well behawed forum I've ewer been on.  So...         ...yeah!

[Privateer Puddin']

Also because AGS is game-centric you can't really be anything but a newbie if, like me, you have yet to finish your first game.

You calling Chris a newbie then?

[Czar]

You calling Chris a newbie then?

Well then, what about the game of the games??

THE DEMO QUEST!!!

[Privateer Puddin']

Thats no game, merely a tech demo

[Dart]

I agree that this forum is a family compared to the one I was in before.

There were three types of members in the forum I used to frequent; regs (regulars), midents (mid-popularity users), and n00bs. To make it even worse, there were high regs, low midents, medium n00bs, etc. And after a few years since the forum's creation, there were first-generation regs, second-generation regs, and up until the forth generation before the popularity system ended.

I was lucky to have joined the forum six months after it was created, and was called a mid second-generation reg. Others weren't as lucky to have joined so early, and they were the ones who were ridiculed or ignored when they asked a single question.

[c.leksutin]

honestly, how long is a N00b considered to be a new-bie before they become "normal"

You're not a n00b when I show up in your driveway like Ray Leotta in "Good Fella's"

-Gestapo

[Ali]

You calling Chris a newbie then?

Yes I am ... apparently.

No, I only meant that lots of AGSers are well known for games as well as music and graphics so having made a good game seems to contibute to becoming an established member.  I believe the technical term is denewbification.

[DragonRose]

Whether or not you've ever made a game has very little to do with your status of "noobiness" (I made a word!)

M0ds has yet to complete a game, yet he's a moderator and has songs written about.
Cornjob never completed a game of his own, and still got the first AGS Lifetime Achievement award.
I've never made a game, but I'm fairly certain I'm not a newb. (fingers crossed)

My guide to whether or not you're a newbie is if I can remember other things you've posted and maybe some things about you.  Dart stopped being a newbie really quickly in my mind because she mentioned she lived in Ontario, and I do as well.  So I started paying attention to her posts.  Jet-XL, though he's been around a long time, only recently stopped seeming newbish to me.  Unfortunatly, that corresponded to when he added the jiggling boobs to his signature.

It's subjective, don't worry about it.  Just be clever and all is well.

[Hinders]

well, i see people as a noob when they use too many acronyms(lol, imo, omfg and so) and when they make more than 10 posts everyday + 1337 speaking 

[Pet Terry]

If person is familiar with AGS and (s)he can make stuff in it that requires scripting (for example) and knows the basics, (s)he is not a newbie in AGS.

If person has helped other people with their games, attended meeting (Mittens, Brittens), is respected in community, gets along with other people in community or behaves in matury way, (s)he is not a newbie in community.

If person joined the community few seconds ago, (s)he is a newbie.

If person annoys everyone, doesn't read forum rules and acts like an idiot etc. he is a n00b, no matter how long he has been a member of community.

That's how I see it.

[Ali]

Whether or not you've ever made a game has very little to do with your status of "noobiness" (I made a word!)

M0ds has yet to complete a game, yet he's a moderator and has songs written about.
Cornjob never completed a game of his own, and still got the first AGS Lifetime Achievement award.
I've never made a game, but I'm fairly certain I'm not a newb. (fingers crossed)

You're right, sorry! Clearly I was wrong. I would add an embarrassed smiley, but tiny disembodied heads worry me. Please disregard everything I have said, am saying and ever might say.

[Ishmael]

If person has helped other people with their games, attended meeting (Mittens, Brittens), is respected in community, gets along with other people in community or behaves in matury way, (s)he is not a newbie in community.

I get... one or two points? And do I get along with people?

Anyway, I agree with Pete here...

It doens't matter how much posts you have, how long you've been around, how many games you've made... It's just how you know the community, it's rules, AGS and such things...

[Blitzerland]

I would have to agree with most of the posts here, but I have a few things of my own to add. The following is pieced together from various forums and various messages contained in those forums. Here we go:

Blitzerland's Unabridged Guide to Spotting N00bs

1.) If they utilize chatspeak in any way (unless in a chat program, of course), they are probably a n00b.

2.) If they post incredibly stupid and wishful ideas in the "In Production" forum (go read the 'item collector' thread there).

3.) If they do not know how to make games, have never read the tutorials, and yet they still put-down others games (to make themselves look better), they are n00bs.

4.) If they are (as punaman was clever enough to point out) unable to compatently string together sentances, they are a n00b.

5.) Excessive usage of smilies in conjunction with chatspeak (LOLÃ,  :o OMGÃ,  Ã,  i am so l33TÃ,  )

6.) You get the hang of it.

[Mr Jake]

4.) If they are (as punaman was clever enough to point out) unable to compatently string together sentances, they are a n00b.

5.) Excessive usage of smilies in conjunction with chatspeak (LOLÃ,  :o OMGÃ,  Ã,  i am so l33TÃ,  )

disagree with these two, A) not everyone is english and I commend the rest of Europe and other places for how well even the younger generation speaking English (I cant Speak a word of Hebrew but Ginny and highwayGal for example can speak perfect English.) and B) its 1337, not l33t.. n00bÃ, 




disclaimer: B was a joke, please dont take offence.