College - Loud music at late hours is a necessity, kids.

Peter Thomas · Sun 25/01/2004 21:29:04

Ack!!

This 'metal music' must be a 'teenage boy' thing.....
*like I can talk*

sorry... that probably sounded like I was trying to be all superior...... I respect everyone's taste in music.

I just don't always understand it.

Trapezoid · Sun 25/01/2004 21:41:22

Personally, I think metal musicians try way to hard. A happy-sounding song with the right lyrics can be much more effectively depressing.

Rincewind · Sun 25/01/2004 21:43:52

Heh, it's ok - I can't understand techno music, myself... But that's life - We can't all think the same...

And sure, in one way, metal is a teenage thing, but a lot of people continue to listen to it when they become "adults" as well, just like people who listen to pop or blues or whatever you happen to listen to...
I'd say it's pretty individual - Some youngsters listen to it because they want to rebel against parents, some do it because they think it's cool - But I can guarantee you that the majority of all metal-fans(young and old) do it because they like the music, and nothing else.

Trap:
You've got a point there...

Ghormak · Sun 25/01/2004 22:03:05

The problem with metal is that the musicians (and even moreso the hardcore fans) take it far too seriously.

But I truly enjoy metal music. If you ignore the lyrics, which is very easy to do since you can't hear them anyway, there's nothing like it if you want some music that packs a punch.

TheYak · Mon 26/01/2004 04:44:37

The trouble with a lot of music fans is that they take whatever genre too seriously. Every genre has its ups & downs, its masters and its stinkers. I often listen to stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously, particular when in a wry mood. As far as Techno, hardcore fans will tell you otherwise, but the "up" side of the stuff is that it's good for dancing too. It's all about the rhythm the tempo and the bassline. As for me, I hardly count techno as music at all, mostly as club/movie/game ambient noise.

Trapezoid · Mon 26/01/2004 05:02:57

Techno is a very impressive SOUNDING genre, but it lacks in song writing. Personally, I'd like to hear more Techno that's actually written in a more traditional way. Y'know, not so repetitive, with chord changes, verses, chori. TMBG's "Man, It's So Loud In Here" is sort of like that, actually, although it's not a very complicated song.
Now Metal, for all it's angst, I feel generally lacks edge. I'd like to see some more twisted creativity in presenting such dark music. See Mr. Bungle, or Mike Patton in general.

shbaz · Mon 26/01/2004 05:17:40

I'm not a metal fan by any means, but I'm a guitarist and I appreciate Slayer for their chops. That's why I bought the CD, it just came in particular handy when I was accused of worshipping Satan.

Music taste is all arbitrary, I try not to bother people about it TOO much. Sometimes it's hard. *cough* Britney Spears *cough*

TheYak · Mon 26/01/2004 05:36:42

Well, with an example like that, it's more marketing than music anyway. When portrayed as a chaste, innocent teen Spears sold as many albums as she has all the later ones put together. Whilst tormenting coworkers about their appreciation of BS, I didn't encounter anyone who liked the music and didn't say something along the lines of, "She's cute/hot/sexy." I personally disagree with that assessment. While I'm sure to get at least one disagreement, I think Outkast is utter tripe and it's garnering radio airtime at a frightening pace around here.

Trapezoid · Mon 26/01/2004 06:07:01

Outkast? Yeah, that song is insanely overexposed. Still, I think it's catchy and it's pretty damn left field compared to other chart toppers like Britney, Justin, Eminem, etc. I think it's good to have an interesting, original song become popular. Sure, it's annoyingly overplayed now, but I think that it will make for much better nostalgia than anything by 50 Cent.

TheYak · Mon 26/01/2004 06:24:43

The song by Outkast (can't remember the title..1 of 2 I've heard) won't make for nostalgia in my case. Perhaps I'd have to be more open-minded about music or more of a general music-lover to see the virtue in it. Maybe it's just not my style, almost every aspect of it makes me cringe. I was trying to pick a more neutral group but couldn't come up with one; an example of non-original, flat music that's become popular for who knows what reason.

Since we're venturing into the realm of pet peeves & music, it's one of mine when people adore a song (usually a 1-hit wonder type) and don't get it. They miss the irony or the tongue-in-cheek glibness and take it at face value.

A couple examples: Bad Touch by The Bloodhound Gang. I dug it for awhile, then it got too much overplay by people that didn't understand that it was essentially satire. It's sad when satire of pop-music becomes popular and most miss that it's a parody. Another example is the song, "Popular (Can't remember artist)." For awhile, I noticed that people & movies took the words at face-value. I'm not an "If too many people like it, it blows," sort of person, more just ashamed that many people are superficial and thick-skulled.
[edit: Since I've already got far too many posts on this page, quick mention -"Every Breath You Take" is my friend and his fiance's song. They plan to have it played sometime during their wedding. Talk about creepy.]

Las Naranjas · Mon 26/01/2004 07:12:41

It's like when "Every Breath You Take" is put on those anthologies of love songs.

Or Bob Dole using "Born In the USA" in his election campaign.

shbaz · Mon 26/01/2004 14:53:54

I like one of the two radio-play Outkast songs a lot, I seem to appreciate rap more when they use real instruments. "I love the way you move" is annoying to me because it's so repetitive. "Hey Ya" is just plain catchy and innovative. I usually just dismiss the entire genre of rap though, for the reasons those Princeton kids were making fun of it, outlined in the 18 page explanation. "Hey Ya" doesn't seem the same though because of the real instruments and lack of rapping.

Layabout · Mon 26/01/2004 16:24:14

Ahh, music.

Its amazing how some people will not listen to a song, if its commercial, or those who say 'i liked that band before they sold out etc)

Example, White Stripes. Now they are getting fame, the 'hardcore' fans are shitty cause everyone likes them now. Same with the Darkness (classic 70's style rockband with the skintight tights to go), they are getting the radioplay they deserve, and the people who listened to them when they were 'fresh' are disilllusioned.

I say who the fuck cares.

One thing that really pisses me off is the use of 'popular' songs as mobile ringtones. Well, not so much pisses me off, but if someone has a certain ringtone, i will say a witty comment. Like my manager at work has 'where is the love' on his phone, and i say to him 'where is the love damo', whenever it rings.

I hate dickknobs who must listen to their 'dance' music at 10000dB's whislt driving down a suburban street at 2am. Or at any time really. They piss me off.

As for Hey Ya. Its a fucking clever song. I read a review of that song, it was simply 'If you don't like this song, then you don't like music.' I think it's quite fitting. Like who cares if its on the radio every 1 out of 10 songs. It's a nice song. And the film clip is awesome.

I'd just like to say that i hate limp bizkit, korn, linkin crud and most importantly evanecancjdhnce. I think the world has enough angsty teenage dickcheese bands already.

Ben · Mon 26/01/2004 22:03:20

"Popular" is by Nada Surf.. The lyrics are from an entirely serious book written in the 1950s. If people could take that stuff at face value then, it doesn't surprise me that they still can now.

Bah.. Have to agree with Lay. I hate when "hardcore" fans accuse bands of "selling out" just because they've become popular.. Sure, I'd understand if the band made their style more mainstream just to become popular, but if they become popular on their own merits and talent, then they deserve all the fame and money they get.. Tool's "Hooker with a Penis" explains it all pretty well.

I wouldn't mind if Hey Ya got played back to back for an hour. I know a lot of people who hate it, but I think they're just bitter because they have to wait four minutes for the next Nickleback song..

Another thing that pisses me off: Does anyone like Puddle Of Mudd? I can't find anyone who does, and yet the radio stations around here insist on playing their shit all day.

Oh, I also hate ignorant people who don't like listening to anything but pop music. My English teacher played some Robert Johnson in one class, and a couple of girls said it sucked. He kicked them out of the room

One more thing! You ever see people who have the treble and mid on their car stereos turned all the way down, and the bass turned all the way up? And they're convinced that it sounds good? Do me a favor and kick those people in the balls.

Femme Stab Mode >:D · Tue 27/01/2004 10:00:01

Ben: They have gone bass-deaf, meaningly they listened to so much stuff too loud so their ear drums can't pick up bass anymore.

I don't know, but I remember on monday we were driving home at night, and for a long time while we waited for the traffic to clear up there was a car of a nameless brand in front of us. It looked like an average car a granny or a nurse would drive, but what made it special was the arms hanging out of it and the LOUD rap music that came out of the car.