If u could change?

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Helm

girl on girl? that's kinda excluding!
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Nikolas

Quote from: Chicky on Wed 21/12/2005 11:55:59
That and romance, cute girl on girl romance.
You know, I only got one image when I read this.

Tonuge to tonuge... Two girls...

YES! I said it! You can erase my post! But I'm horny now, oh yes!

big brother

Just wow. How old are we?
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Quote from: Nikolas on Wed 21/12/2005 15:41:22
Quote from: Chicky on Wed 21/12/2005 11:55:59
That and romance, cute girl on girl romance.
You know, I only got one image when I read this.

Tonuge to tonuge... Two girls...

YES! I said it! You can erase my post! But I'm horny now, oh yes!

Err, I hope your wife doesn't enter this forums and read this 0_o
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Quote from: Kinoko on Mon 19/12/2005 00:29:00I'd change Grim Fandango so that he doesn't fall in love with whatserface, because it was almost completely illogical that he would. They never even knew each other, it made no sense whatsoever. On top of that, she was a bitch. I hated that ending.

Haven't you ever seen a film noir movie? The protagonist always falls for the unscrupulous femme fatale, who is distant, harmful and pretty much a bitch. The falling in love is often done quickly and without acknowledging it. In fact, the whole love interest is always kind of a ticket out for the protagonist from his current mess, so he has no objections about it. Very often this interest leads to the protagonist in some way pursuing or coming into contact with the woman, and once the woman gives him her attention by breaking from her bitch shell, the protagonist usually acts distant, harsh and nonchalant. Usually as the adventure climaxes, the situations call for both parties to break the barriers and elude danger, ending the movie with a violent kiss.

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Kinoko

Quote from: ildu on Wed 21/12/2005 16:29:12
Quote from: Kinoko on Mon 19/12/2005 00:29:00I'd change Grim Fandango so that he doesn't fall in love with whatserface, because it was almost completely illogical that he would. They never even knew each other, it made no sense whatsoever. On top of that, she was a bitch. I hated that ending.

Haven't you ever seen a film noir movie? The protagonist always falls for the unscrupulous femme fatale, who is distant, harmful and pretty much a bitch. The falling in love is often done quickly and without acknowledging it. In fact, the whole love interest is always kind of a ticket out for the protagonist from his current mess, so he has no objections about it. Very often this interest leads to the protagonist in some way pursuing or coming into contact with the woman, and once the woman gives him her attention by breaking from her bitch shell, the protagonist usually acts distant, harsh and nonchalant. Usually as the adventure climaxes, the situations call for both parties to break the barriers and elude danger, ending the movie with a violent kiss.

Making it logical... how? Just because it happens in other movies, that doesn't make it less crap. I would have had a lot more respect for Manny if I felt his emotions made sense in that regard.

PARTICULARLY when he had that hot security guard ready and willing! My god, he took the bitchy future-housewife in favour of ... well. I've changed my answer. I destinctly remember wishing he ended up with... I forget her name, but the security guard... skeleton woman. She was a -damn- sexy pile of bones.

The Inquisitive Stranger

Quote from: Kinoko on Thu 22/12/2005 02:21:25PARTICULARLY when he had that hot security guard ready and willing! My god, he took the bitchy future-housewife in favour of ... well. I've changed my answer. I destinctly remember wishing he ended up with... I forget her name, but the security guard... skeleton woman. She was a -damn- sexy pile of bones.

The one with the metal detector, who took you into the back room to talk about figs and dates? I believe her name was Carla. I liked her too.

I must say, I'm quite glad that Ben and Mo didn't get married and live happily ever after at the end of Full Throttle. Now THAT would have MAJORLY sucked.

By the way, I'd like to change Grim Fandango to make it mouse-driven rather than keyboard-driven. That would've made finding hotspots WAY easier. Speaking of film noir games, I'd also like to make Discworld Noir less buggy and easier to get in North America.
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Quote from: Helm on Wed 21/12/2005 12:08:31
girl on girl? that's kinda excluding!

Would you rather it be 'girl on girl on Helm' romance?

If I could change something, I'd make all of my favorite games longer, to be able to explore a lot more areas. For example, I wanted more than anything to explore Chess Land in King's Quest 6! And since this is Magical Pretend Land, I can forget about how much work it would take to make all my favorite games as long as I want them! Anything can happen in Magical Pretend Land!

I would also give you more control over your character's decisions. I don't want my character to sass me back none! If I tell you to "use" someone, you "use" him as much as you possibly can! None of this "He's not my type" crap!

Basically what I'm trying to say is I would make it possible to fondle more people in games.
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QuoteMaking it logical... how? Just because it happens in other movies, that doesn't make it less crap.

Well yeah, but they were after the Noir style, same as Discworld Noir. So they followed the patterns established back when such things were not as important.
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i would also like to change it so that Beneath a Steel Sky had more explorable areas, and it'd be so great if they made an updated version with higher resolution backgrounds (if they still have the original drawings), and i'd also change it so that they had made BASS2 when it was originally planned, which according to Dave Gibbons wasn't that long after they finished the first one.

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Ginny

Isn't it a known fact that we fall for those who are worse for us? I know I have, numerous times, so why can't Manny? It's a mistake every man, woman or skeleton can make.

As for what I'd change... I can't think of anything in particular right now. I'd make Grim longer, and savor every new moment of it.
I'd like to see Membrillo's heart of a twelve year old child in a jar.. In fact there must be dozens of places that weren't explored in grim that I'd like to see.
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Tom S. Fox

Why is Mercedes (that's her name, you know, like the car) a bitch?
I mean, she was totally good and nice, when she was alive!
And Carla, I mean, what gives with that? She's a psycho!
Babbling down her whole life story and starting to blubber around...
And all the mood swings of her in general... terrible!

ildu

Quote from: Kinoko on Thu 22/12/2005 02:21:25Making it logical... how? Just because it happens in other movies, that doesn't make it less crap. I would have had a lot more respect for Manny if I felt his emotions made sense in that regard.

PARTICULARLY when he had that hot security guard ready and willing! My god, he took the bitchy future-housewife in favour of ... well. I've changed my answer. I destinctly remember wishing he ended up with... I forget her name, but the security guard... skeleton woman. She was a -damn- sexy pile of bones.

It doesn't have to seem that logical. It followed classic film noir and it really doesn't have to feel logical. The whole point of femme fatale is falling for the wrong bird. And I don't see Manny's affection to be illogical. She was his ticket out of the nether regions and she was an uncommon type of girl to Manny, a thoroughbred goody two shoes. It was only expected that he would pursue her for his own interests first and foremost. Also, as Ginny said, we often fall for the ones that are harder to get and sometimes not at all good to us. An available and willing chick, pouring her heart out, such as Carla doesn't appeal to a man of adventure. Playing hard to get is the key to a man's heart, depending on the man being courageous enough to pursue the woman.

The reporter in Grim is also a very architypical character in Film Noir. She's the normal, down to earth kind of girl, that the protagonist hooks up with. She has feelings for Manny, but he ignores her. Often events lead to her demise as in Grim Fandango, and she is left expressing to the protagonist how much she liked him and what their life could've been together. The protagonist then brushes it off as another good thing he's destroyed in his life. The protagonist as in this case is often an apathetic, depressed man who twirls into more and more apathy and trouble as the story climaxes. Manny owes it to the reporter and himself to keep pursuing Meche.

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