LeChucks classic theme, not so original?

[rodekill]

LeChuck, or not LeChuck?

[Quickstrike]

Odd... yet nice.

[Trapezoid]

Yeah, does sound like it. Of course, here's how the LeChuck theme originally played in MI1: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/5729/lechuck3.mid

[Quickstrike]

I be teh Flippy (sort of): http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/5729/lechuck3.mid

[edmundito]

Good grief! the Disneyland references continue! I wonder how many times they went to Disneyland during the making of Monkey Island and Monkey Island 2.

Heeeyyy... a lot of people complain about how CMI and EMI miss that monkey island charm and I guess it's because the new teams haven't made enough visits to Disneyland! I just solved LEC's problem for MI5

[Mr Jake]

You know that the idea for MI came from Disney I guess? and the 3rd games good, 4th one is pretty crap.. good puzzles

[Grundislav]

Well, the whole opening banjo thing from CMI was ripped straight from the Pirates of the Caribbean ride in Disneyland, so they had SOME Disney references in that one...

[Mr Jake]

THE hole game was ripped from pirates of the Caribean (forget spelling) he got the idea while riding it with his kids (I think) The dog in the jail in MI2? the bango... the pirates... but the game rocks

[Gonzo]

I don't think the WHOLE game was 'ripped', from the ride, but sure there's definitely heavy inspiration there. Some puzzles were lifted from situations on the ride. But that's not to detract from the awesome imagination of the MI1/2 team -  they created some brilliant characters, jokes, puzzles all by themself. CMI and EMI actually have some pretty great original ideas, like Murray, but sadly the spurts of genius are more here and there, rather than one consistent stream of top-notch humour and piratey atmosphere as in MI1 and 2. But let's not turn the thread into a MI games comparison thread now...

[edmundito]

I e-mailed Dave Grossman (co-designer of DOTT, assintant designer/writer of Monkey Island 1 and 2) and I asked him if the team ever made a visit to Disneyland during the production of the games, and this is what he said:

"The answer is... zero.  The team never went to Disneyland, at least not as a group.  We did talk about making an inspirational trip down there when we were first working on Monkey 1 (in between Errol Flynn movies), but somehow the fact that it was four hundred miles away kept us from following through on that.  It's possible that individuals may have gone there on their own vacations - I didn't, but I have no way of remembering whether anyone else did.


On the other hand, I think most (possibly all) of us had been there at least once during the course of our lives, and Ron, describing the aesthetic he wanted, would often talk about imagining you had stepped off the Pirates of the Caribbean ride and were talking to the people there.  So some of those Disneyland references are undoubtedly deliberate.  I'm sure there are also a few that are entirely coincidental."

So I guess Michael Z. Land may have gone to Disneyland for inspiration... who knows.

[m0ds]

LOL. What amuses me is that a LOT of professional composers seem to steal other tunes. Horner often uses variations of other themes other people have done, a lot of film themes have been obviously ripped from earlier classical music and other sources etc.

They're job is to compose yet they steal.

Bastards.

I just remembered the example - if you ever get to watch Metropolis (the old b&w movie)but with the "new" soundtrack, you'll notice that a lot of the music is just like that in FoA.

m0ds

[Sluggo]

"Good composers don't borrow, they steal." - Igor Stravinsky

Even Beethoven "stole" things from other composers.

[Las Naranjas]

But he didn't end up broke from lawsuits like Vanilla Ice

[rodekill]

Actually, apparently Vanilla Ice still has a few million left over from that glorious year.

[Bob The Hun]

I think they didn't really steal the song, but they just stole the song's atmosphere.
And the actual song on the ride sounds even more similar, too.

[remixor]

Didn't Vanilla Ice use an actual sample from Queen's "Under Pressure", not just a similar sounding riff?  He didn't give credit or list them anywhere in the liner notes, he just took it.  It was much more blatant than the Disneyland/LeChuck thing.  And as far as I know he and Queen settled out of court.

Queen rules, btw.

[Fuzzpilz]

On that note...

Interesting coincidence that this happens to be today's entry.

[edmundito]

I don't think the WHOLE game was 'ripped', from the ride, but sure there's definitely heavy inspiration there. Some puzzles were lifted from situations on the ride. But that's not to detract from the awesome imagination of the MI1/2 team -  they created some brilliant characters, jokes, puzzles all by themself.

I think there's a negative connotation related to "ripping" from other people's work, but what it really is is that ripping stuff it's a tool for creativity. The song was obviously yet another reference to the whole theme park idea, which is apparently all tied to the original secret of Monkey island, or whatever. Furthermore, references rule!

It also amazes me that's it's been 10 years since the making of monkey island 1-2, and new references are still popping up.

[remixor]

On that note...

Interesting coincidence that this happens to be today's entry.

That's awesome.  Thanks for linking it.

[Mr Jake]

When I say ripped, I mean heavily inspired of course.....  

BTW: I think disneyland rocks!  8)