LeChucks classic theme, not so original?

[GarageGothic]

What amuses me is that a LOT of professional composers seem to steal other tunes. Horner often uses variations of other themes other people have done, a lot of film themes have been obviously ripped from earlier classical music and other sources etc.

There's a reason for this. While editing a movie they often use a temporary soundtrack of pre-existing music, often from other films or classical (Prokofiev (sp?) and Stravinsky seem to be favorites). When they're done editing and the composer comes on, the temp music seems so fitting, that he ends up emulating the temp track in his score. It's a known fact. That's why so many thriller have a Bernard Herrman-like score.

[Igor]

LOL. What amuses me is that a LOT of professional composers seem to steal other tunes. Horner often uses variations of other themes other people have done, a lot of film themes have been obviously ripped from earlier classical music and other sources etc.

They're job is to compose yet they steal.

I don't think it's about stealing. I'm sure all those composers would love to write completely unique and new pieces. But the fact is, directors or whoever makes the game/movie, already have a type of music for certain scenes in their mind... and that is usually music they heard in some other movies&games. And when composer gets description of what the director want (with possible "i'd like something in style of *put a name of the movie here* musical score"), it's hard to be completely original.

[remixor]

I don't think it's about stealing. I'm sure all those composers would love to write completely unique and new pieces. But the fact is, directors or whoever makes the game/movie, already have a type of music for certain scenes in their mind... and that is usually music they heard in some other movies&games. And when composer gets description of what the director want (with possible "i'd like something in style of *put a name of the movie here* musical score"), it's hard to be completely original.

Speaking from a composer's perspective, I must agree with you.  I have never scored a game before, but I have scored three student films and in two of those three cases the directors had very specific ideas in their minds regarding the mood they wanted the scores to evoke.  They thus supplied examples, and it's difficult to completely clear those out of your mind when writing the music while still retaining the requisite emotions.  And for anyone who doesn't think this happens in the real composing world, John Williams is one of the more infamous appropriators of classical themes around.  I'm not saying this in a negative way, I'm just stating a fact.  In most cases it's not too big of a deal.

[Nacho]

Hey... I finally heard the song! And... yeah, there is a very to LeChuck´s theme close movement at second 40. But we cannot say it´s plagiarism because there must be two movements copied for that (Farlander Law advisor).

But we must have in mind that Monkey is full of cameos... I don´t think this is another one, because the coincidence in the song is just in 1 or 2 seconds, but that encourages me thinking that genious sometimes use some other genious´art.

[yeknomten]

On that note...

Interesting coincidence that this happens to be today's entry.

Lol... that comic is so true to life..  

[Hobbes]

I love this MP3... very clearly a LeChuck theme in there. Michael Z. Land should be commended for stealing Disney's stuff.

[Bluke4x4]

I never heard any Disney music in Monkey Island 1,2,3, or 4.
Also: Am I the only one in this forum who DOESN'T think MI4 is crap?

[Bob The Hun]

Also: Am I the only one in this forum who DOESN'T think MI4 is crap?

One of the few.

[Mr Jake]

I dont think MI4 its self suks, but
POINT AND CLICK!!!!
WHAT HAPPENED TO POINT AND CLICK!!
and non ugly- non 3D graphics...

[Bob The Hun]

If they just did some major changes to the graphics, interface, plot,  design, story, puzzles, and humor, EMI could have been alot better.

[Trapezoid]

I liked EMI.

"OH MY GOD HE LIKED EMI!!"

[Bluke4x4]

Well, it would've been better with point n click...
Oh. I've got a weird idea. What if someone on the forums did a pixelized AGS adaption of EMI? That'd be cool.

[rodekill]

Nah.
It would just be shnite in a more usable package.

[M]

I liked LeChuck better in the first two games. The humour in 1 and 2 was a lot more kind of adult orientated, then you get to CMI and, to me, it just seems to be aimed at more of a younger audience. Plus the graphix really do remind me of disney.

But don't kill me if I'm wrong.

[Trapezoid]

I dunno, I think the MI games have always had a sort of juvenile wedgie-type humor. Now Sam and Max, there's some humor that an adult can enjoy (although I idolized the game when I was 6.)

[petaglair]

i like video games a lot
because it's fun
and the music is fun too
and you can play with them