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[Darth Mandarb]

I think people on this forum are a bit too blasé to become touched by that...we've seen it a million times in cheap american heroic movies...it just doesn't do it...

In my eyes, nothing is worth dying for except possibly some family member or g/f or something...no bloody nation...

'Cheap American heroic movies' aren't real.  The emotion in that bar that night was real and no movie comes close to touching on it.  Not even close.

I think it's really sad that so many people on these forums are 'blasé' and don't believe in anything but themselves.

dm

[Matt Brown]

I dont think i love my country itself enough to die for it. There are certain ideals that my nation, along with all demoractic nations, hold that I think are so important that if for some reason my fighting and death would somehow perpetuate those ideals then I would do it. America is nice and all, but some of it sucks. If lets say, we had a new leader that wanted to abolish voting and religous and press freedom, and there was a movement to go and kick his butt, I'd go sign up for that. I think the Bill of rights is way more important then that flag.

I admit, that if there was a draft now, I'd prob. leave the country and live somewhere else, and experiance the same democractic freeedoms that I have here. You can vote and write whatever you want in England. or in lots of other countries. Democracy isnt limited to America, and in the long run, I care more about that then this place.  

[DGMacphee]

I think it's really sad that so many people on these forums are 'blasé' and don't believe in anything but themselves.

That not true.

I can believe in many things other than myself.

I believe in family.

I believe in my friends.

I especially believe in my girlfriend and everything she's achieved.

But I don't feel a need to get misty-eyed when the fireworks shoot off on Australia Day.

And, though I feel regret, I don't feel an overwhelming sensation to kick some terrorist ass when other Australians get hurt in a bombing, such as the one in Bali.

It would only matter personally if someone I knew was involved.

And even then, I wouldn't go out for revenge.

I'd face my sadness and carry on.

My life is too short to be worried about 'enemies'.

You may think that's nuts -- but then again, to each their own.

But I believe in other things besides myself.

And I think a lot of other people here do to.

[Andail]

MrPanda, I respect you a whole lot more after that post...

Mr Darth, on the other hand...

'Cheap American heroic movies' aren't real.  The emotion in that bar that night was real and no movie comes close to touching on it.  Not even close.
I think it's really sad that so many people on these forums are 'blasé' and don't believe in anything but themselves.
dm

"Don't believe in anything but themselves?" Shut up!
Do you think you know jack shit about what I care about or not?

If you have nothing else to contribute to this community with except for cheap platitudes and ungrounded insults, I suggest you take a break or something

[Darth Mandarb]

If you have nothing else to contribute to this community with except for cheap platitudes and ungrounded insults, I suggest you take a break or something

Andail - If you got that irritated over something I said, perhaps you need the break?  Calm down fella!!  But I like the 'cheap platitudes and undergrounded insults' ... good word usage.  What I said/typed was neither, but good word usage none-the-less.

ALL
My statement was '...don't believe in anything but themselves.'  I didn't say anything about 'caring' ... so if anybody else was confused by my simple statement I apologize.  I hope this helped to clarify.

dm

EDIT - DGM - I don't think you're nuts for feeling the way you do.  I guess I just don't understand it the way you don't understand my feelings on the matter.  So it balances out. /EDIT

[Andail]

All right, if that made you so impressed, here are some more examples of good word-usage:

This whole "sacrificing my life to my nation" has this fanatic tone to it.
The terrorists of al-quaida also are prepared to sacrifice their lives for a couple of wholy books and some sort of nation-concept.
Do you find it reasonable to think that you can be of more use to your nation while dead rather than alive? You're pulling the same bitter-sweet sentimental speeches as Bush.

Skip the propaganda part. This community isn't impressed by it.
And yes, most of us believe in hundreds of good things, but american hyper-patriotism isn't one of them.

Edit: Just saw your pixel-art collection of american GI-Joes or whatnot. You're the one needing a break, trust me.
Geez, you're 27 for crying out loud.

[Trapezoid]

Terrorists sacrifice their lives for offense, patriots tend to sacrifice their lives in defense. That's the difference I see, anyway. If one person is willing to die "for his country", it's useless. But if many are, then I suppose it's heroic. I certainly don't think it's selfish, just a little vague. It probably means that "if I were in a war, and had to put my life at risk just so, as part of a larger effort, future deaths could be prevented, then I would." I'm not sure what it has to do with America, but that's how patriots express it. It's an admirable sentiment that just sounds suspiciously jingoish.

[Darth Mandarb]

Pride in my country + Nostalgia for GIJoe + My being 27 = Me needing to take a break.

Well, that doesn't make sense.

Well everybody ... I guess you won't be hearing from me on these boards for awhile 'cause I obviously need a break.

I thought the 'Critics Lounge' was for creativity and artisitic development and this board is for 'General Discussion' and expressing opinions.

I guess I don't get why pixel art for G I Joe is wrong?  Nor expressing my views/feelings.

By the way, I still love Google searching.

dm

[Trapezoid]

Even I know that the GI Joe thing is probably more of a result of being an 80s child than anything else. And I've never watched it.

[Matt Brown]

trap, I think we were 3 or 4 when that show was in its hey-day

[Trapezoid]

Yeah, but I hang around an internet dominated by 20-somethings. If it was popular in the 80s, it's online nostalgia in the 00s.

[DGMacphee]

I liked He-Man, The Smurfs, Scooby Doo, and Samurai Pizza Cats!

[Matt Brown]

I saw the pizza cats once! didnt they all shoot out of a cannon to fight the bad guys? it was kinda dumb..yet, amusing.

I liked the ninja turtles. and Sonic the hedgehog

[DGMacphee]

I just laugh at the fact that the leader of the bad guys in SPC was a transvestite and the American producers did nothing to hide it.

[SSH]

Hands up who was in love with Smurfette?

[DGMacphee]

Nah, I actually dug Velma from Scooby Doo.

Those glasses, man -- whew, I'm sweaty!

[Darth Mandarb]

I had such a thing for Lady Jaye ... damn Flint for taking her off the market!  

dm